In fact, IJN bombardments are bane of Allied players' existence in the early game! [:D]ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: witpqs
In my experience, overall they are not less effective.ORIGINAL: Lowpe
October 18, 1943
Why is it that Japanese bombardments are so inferior to Allied bombardments?
There you go! I am trying to feel sorry for myself, plus setup poor expectations for the rest of the game on why Japan isn't doing well, and boy, do you ever ruin it.[:-][:D] Don't rain on my pity parade.[:D][:D]
Lambs to the slaughter (Lowpe (J) vs Jocke; BillBrown (A)) Finished
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
A chart![:)]


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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Why is it that Japanese Artillery is so inferior to Allied artillery.
In my experience, overall they are not less effective.
ETA: OK, I confess. I was deliberately trolling you. Overall they are less effective. [:'(]
ETA II: Especially when you have a whopping *two* batteries of 75mm pop guns firing upon a massive Allied force.

RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Why is it that Japanese Artillery is so inferior to Allied artillery.
In my experience, overall they are not less effective.
ETA: OK, I confess. I was deliberately trolling you. Overall they are less effective. [:'(]
ETA II: Especially when you have a whopping *two* batteries of 75mm pop guns firing upon a massive Allied force.
I thought for sure Michael was going to tweak me there, not you![:)] I can tee a ball up with the best of them.[:)]
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
But, come on, we all know the Allies are just overpowered and Japan is totally nerfed.[:D]
Totally agree. [:'(][:D]

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I thought for sure Michael was going to tweak me there, not you![:)] I can tee a ball up with the best of them.[:)]
Pfft...Michael...[8|]
[;)]
If you wanted timely trolling, Lowpe, you need look no farther. [:D]

RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Sending in the destroyers to bombard Rabaul today...following M-M's advice here to keep shooting at him.
Not too much other than that going on...moving troops etc., etc.
Jocke has the turn...so we are back on track.
Not too much other than that going on...moving troops etc., etc.
Jocke has the turn...so we are back on track.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Sending in the destroyers to bombard Rabaul today...following M-M's advice here to keep shooting at him.
Not too much other than that going on...moving troops etc., etc.
Jocke has the turn...so we are back on track.
In my experience they don't actually accomplish a whole lot, but perceptions vary [;)]
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Sending in the destroyers to bombard Rabaul today...following M-M's advice here to keep shooting at him.
Not too much other than that going on...moving troops etc., etc.
Jocke has the turn...so we are back on track.
In my experience they don't actually accomplish a whole lot, but perceptions vary [;)]
That is my experience, whereas Fletchers can really put the hurt on!
But, perhaps they do contribute to disablements?
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Right now, I'm very pleased with my "floating Japanese artillery." [&o]
In April/May '42 a TF of 4 Mogami Class CLs with 6 DDs and another with two BTS BBs (41cm guns), 3 CLs, and 8 DDs reduced 6th Aussie Div to 00 AV on the road between Cuttack and Viza in India over a few weeks. Then, two brigades from 6th Aussie Div suffered the same. Needless to say, scratch a division and two brigades from Allied OOB. [:D]
After a brief rest, they went to work on Chittagong. On the second deliberate assault, I bagged another Indian division and two brigades.
So, Gen Patton is not too happy with any form or size of Japanese artillery in India as of May 20th.
If an AAR wasn't so time consuming, I might consider doing one.
In April/May '42 a TF of 4 Mogami Class CLs with 6 DDs and another with two BTS BBs (41cm guns), 3 CLs, and 8 DDs reduced 6th Aussie Div to 00 AV on the road between Cuttack and Viza in India over a few weeks. Then, two brigades from 6th Aussie Div suffered the same. Needless to say, scratch a division and two brigades from Allied OOB. [:D]
After a brief rest, they went to work on Chittagong. On the second deliberate assault, I bagged another Indian division and two brigades.
So, Gen Patton is not too happy with any form or size of Japanese artillery in India as of May 20th.
If an AAR wasn't so time consuming, I might consider doing one.
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If an AAR wasn't so time consuming, I might consider doing one.
do it! You don't have to detail everything like...a screen capture and a sentence or even a word or two.
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
GP is headed for Florida with Mrs for a week soon. I 'might' start it then.
India has been fun - four divisions and eight brigades destroyed in two months of operations. [:)]
India has been fun - four divisions and eight brigades destroyed in two months of operations. [:)]
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Sending in the destroyers to bombard Rabaul today...following M-M's advice here to keep shooting at him.
Not too much other than that going on...moving troops etc., etc.
Jocke has the turn...so we are back on track.
In my experience they don't actually accomplish a whole lot, but perceptions vary [;)]
That is my experience, whereas Fletchers can really put the hurt on!
But, perhaps they do contribute to disablements?
The IJN DDs basically have pop guns, though. They might help at the margins, but they won't do anything on their own.
RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Oct 19, 1943
A quiet day other than a needed (and costly) strafing attack on the two isolated Allied divisions in Burma. If I can hold there for I should be able to get reinforcements there strong enough to destroy them in 10 days...and because it isn't a base hex, supplies will actually flow to my troops despite the monsoon.
No attack at Rabaul...IJN destroyers bombard to modest effect and the artillery bombardment by the Allies inform me that they aren't suffering a lack of supplies.
Nov 1 will see a George Squadron and also Frank R will start production. There must be a difference in this PDU off game-mod...because I see other AAR where there is one squadron of Georges flying around in June of 43 and my first squadron is eligible in Nov.
I checked and it is Nov 15 for the first George Sentai.

A quiet day other than a needed (and costly) strafing attack on the two isolated Allied divisions in Burma. If I can hold there for I should be able to get reinforcements there strong enough to destroy them in 10 days...and because it isn't a base hex, supplies will actually flow to my troops despite the monsoon.
No attack at Rabaul...IJN destroyers bombard to modest effect and the artillery bombardment by the Allies inform me that they aren't suffering a lack of supplies.
Nov 1 will see a George Squadron and also Frank R will start production. There must be a difference in this PDU off game-mod...because I see other AAR where there is one squadron of Georges flying around in June of 43 and my first squadron is eligible in Nov.
I checked and it is Nov 15 for the first George Sentai.

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
October 20, 1943
A relatively quiet day...bombard Rabaul with Destroyers; bomb Horn Island and Darwin; some action in the Burma area...

A relatively quiet day...bombard Rabaul with Destroyers; bomb Horn Island and Darwin; some action in the Burma area...

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
October 21, 1943
I finally get the match-up I want over the troops in Burma, SW of Katha. Hurricanes sweeping and Franks on LRCAP. All the fighting takes place at 30K to thereabouts. 3 Sentai of Franks are intercepting...
One Frank is leftover for when the bombers arrive...and damages one beast before retiring.
A good day in the air.

I finally get the match-up I want over the troops in Burma, SW of Katha. Hurricanes sweeping and Franks on LRCAP. All the fighting takes place at 30K to thereabouts. 3 Sentai of Franks are intercepting...
One Frank is leftover for when the bombers arrive...and damages one beast before retiring.
A good day in the air.

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
6th Chinese Corp shows up with the 25th Indian division in the plains of Burma...
Morning Air attack on 6th Chinese Corps, at 56,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 6th Chinese Corps, at 56,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 11 damaged
Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...

Morning Air attack on 6th Chinese Corps, at 56,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 6th Chinese Corps, at 56,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 11 damaged
Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Division ...

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury
Rabaul
TF 250 encounters mine field at Rabaul (106,125)
Allied Ships
SS Spearfish, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

TF 250 encounters mine field at Rabaul (106,125)
Allied Ships
SS Spearfish, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Oct 22, 1943
The Frank earns its early arrival once again![:)]

The Frank earns its early arrival once again![:)]

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Another little raid...


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