Correct, I'm hoping my assault on Eniwetok will effectively isolate Kwajalein. Plus Eniwetok has a relatively nice port facility that I can make good use of.
As for Rabaul's worth, initially the jury was out but now I am much more content with my decision to assault the Japanese stronghold. While Manus has the same AF/Port size capability, it has taken awhile to develop (Manus has still yet to max out on port size). Compare that to when I captured Rabaul it was already at Max port and AF and only took a week for engineers to repair the damage the aerial bombing caused. Rabaul itself was a nice VP haul, but even more so when you add in the points the Allies received for ground troops that Japan lost. Add in the experience gained by my ground and air forces in the campaign and I think I can confidently say it was worth the struggle.
Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 84: July 14th – July 20th 1943
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
Satawal is un-garrisoned as expected and falls quickly. 3 PBY squadrons are brought in immediately and begin to reconnoiter Truk and targets to the northeast (Wolei & Ulithi). Engineers begin work on a small airfield for CAP purposes.
The Eniwetok landings go somewhat smoothly and the auto shock attack captures the base (garrison was a glorified base force). I say ‘somewhat’ because a lone IJN sub sank 3 LSTs full of supply on the day of the invasion. The loss left me needing supply and further complicated the over stacking problem I had on the atoll. The temporary solution was to load up most of the assault troops and ship them back to Rabaul for their next assignment. This lightened the supply demand until more can be brought in.
The Japanese response to both Allied assaults was pretty strong. 40+ Bomber raids targeted amphib ships at both islands. CAP from escorting carriers did their job, with only one strike getting through…hitting an AKL which has yet to sink.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet this week, as PBYs fail to find any enemy shipping in the area. And from my perspective this is actually a good thing.
New Guinea/Solomons:
A rare un-eventful week in this area, which has been a hub of activity ever since the Japanese invaded in early ’41. Important yet un-exciting logistical operations are progressing, as this region will serve as the launching point for amphibious assaults for the foreseeable future.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, no Japanese activity.
Allied troops begin preparing for the next big OP, slated to being in this region in late ’43.
SE Asia/China:
I make a bit of a goof (forgot to use the ‘follow’ command) and half of my advancing army crosses the river into Moulmein and auto shock attacks, while the rest is still on the north side of the river (only 1 mile away from crossing…damnitt!). Even though I had the raw AV edge, the Japanese were behind level 3 forts and inflicted a decisive defeat, inflicting over 5,000 casualties (including 145 destroyed/198 disabled squads). I quickly order the troops still on the north side of the river to halt to avoid another auto shock attack the following day. The plan now is to wait till the Allied troops in Moulmein recover from their fatigue/disruption before trying to force the river with reinforcements.
Enemy pockets of resistance at Bassein and Taung Gyi are being reduced methodically. Bassein falls at the end of the week, while the enemy hold out at Taung Gyi…although their forts are down to 0, so their end is near.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
- No sightings. Sub detection levels seem to indicate something in the area of the Marianas, but no concrete evidence yet.
Notable Base Captures:
-Satawal [Caroline Islands] captured by the Allies (7/14)
-Eniwetok [Marshall Islands] captured by the Allies (7/16)
-Bassein [Burma] captured by the Allies (7/20)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,500 [+166]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (426), SBD-3 Dauntless (351), P-40K Warhawk (350)
Japanese: 15,161 [+345]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (3,615), Ki-48 Lily (1,240), Ki-27b Nate (1,193)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 551 [+3]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,165 [+10]
Notables: CV Soryu, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,410 [+163]
Japanese: 7,440 [+105]
A/J Ratio: 1.40 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 46,895 [+559]
Japanese: 29,423 [+492]
A/J Ratio: 1.59 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [4EBs prepping at Manus and Mussau]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/4.1K troops/24 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/9.3K troops/62 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 1 units/5.3K troops/12 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab.
Other Notes:
-The Allied momentum hit a bit of a speedbump in Burma this week, but the advance continues on all other fronts.
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
Satawal is un-garrisoned as expected and falls quickly. 3 PBY squadrons are brought in immediately and begin to reconnoiter Truk and targets to the northeast (Wolei & Ulithi). Engineers begin work on a small airfield for CAP purposes.
The Eniwetok landings go somewhat smoothly and the auto shock attack captures the base (garrison was a glorified base force). I say ‘somewhat’ because a lone IJN sub sank 3 LSTs full of supply on the day of the invasion. The loss left me needing supply and further complicated the over stacking problem I had on the atoll. The temporary solution was to load up most of the assault troops and ship them back to Rabaul for their next assignment. This lightened the supply demand until more can be brought in.
The Japanese response to both Allied assaults was pretty strong. 40+ Bomber raids targeted amphib ships at both islands. CAP from escorting carriers did their job, with only one strike getting through…hitting an AKL which has yet to sink.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet this week, as PBYs fail to find any enemy shipping in the area. And from my perspective this is actually a good thing.
New Guinea/Solomons:
A rare un-eventful week in this area, which has been a hub of activity ever since the Japanese invaded in early ’41. Important yet un-exciting logistical operations are progressing, as this region will serve as the launching point for amphibious assaults for the foreseeable future.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, no Japanese activity.
Allied troops begin preparing for the next big OP, slated to being in this region in late ’43.
SE Asia/China:
I make a bit of a goof (forgot to use the ‘follow’ command) and half of my advancing army crosses the river into Moulmein and auto shock attacks, while the rest is still on the north side of the river (only 1 mile away from crossing…damnitt!). Even though I had the raw AV edge, the Japanese were behind level 3 forts and inflicted a decisive defeat, inflicting over 5,000 casualties (including 145 destroyed/198 disabled squads). I quickly order the troops still on the north side of the river to halt to avoid another auto shock attack the following day. The plan now is to wait till the Allied troops in Moulmein recover from their fatigue/disruption before trying to force the river with reinforcements.
Enemy pockets of resistance at Bassein and Taung Gyi are being reduced methodically. Bassein falls at the end of the week, while the enemy hold out at Taung Gyi…although their forts are down to 0, so their end is near.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
- No sightings. Sub detection levels seem to indicate something in the area of the Marianas, but no concrete evidence yet.
Notable Base Captures:
-Satawal [Caroline Islands] captured by the Allies (7/14)
-Eniwetok [Marshall Islands] captured by the Allies (7/16)
-Bassein [Burma] captured by the Allies (7/20)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,500 [+166]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (426), SBD-3 Dauntless (351), P-40K Warhawk (350)
Japanese: 15,161 [+345]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (3,615), Ki-48 Lily (1,240), Ki-27b Nate (1,193)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 551 [+3]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,165 [+10]
Notables: CV Soryu, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,410 [+163]
Japanese: 7,440 [+105]
A/J Ratio: 1.40 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 46,895 [+559]
Japanese: 29,423 [+492]
A/J Ratio: 1.59 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [4EBs prepping at Manus and Mussau]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/4.1K troops/24 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/9.3K troops/62 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 1 units/5.3K troops/12 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab.
Other Notes:
-The Allied momentum hit a bit of a speedbump in Burma this week, but the advance continues on all other fronts.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: Schlussel
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/4.1K troops/24 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/9.3K troops/62 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 1 units/5.3K troops/12 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab.
Nicely done and another fine update.
My thanks.
I hope that other newbie players do take advantage of reading this AAR. It is full of wonderful information about the logistics to support attack / counter attack / invasions.
The other most famous newbie tutorial is a great read - but you offer a lot of insight into logistics, and build up plans; where this other AI is more focused on moves / defense given its end date.; Logistics build up plans is the part of the game a new player needs to master.[8D]
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Question:
Do you find that spotting / recon tends to consistently underestimate total opposition troop strength...
I might even estimate by as much as 20% (?)
Fog of war is a key design and welcome as a feature...
..but when planning your objectives to you 'gross up' your need strength.. or do you have a formula of what you land with.
Frankly I tend to use a bit of both... a formula 'adjusted' to account for 25% more than spotted.
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Re: The Burma Road and supply
I think the prevailing idea for getting supply into China is to put HQ units on the 'trail' in Northern Burma into China to pull supply out of Rangoon and up to them where it then flows into China. Also, there should be an indicator in Rangoon's detailed base view that says if the Road is open.
I think the prevailing idea for getting supply into China is to put HQ units on the 'trail' in Northern Burma into China to pull supply out of Rangoon and up to them where it then flows into China. Also, there should be an indicator in Rangoon's detailed base view that says if the Road is open.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Thanks MacClan!
I'd love to take the credit, but this AAR has been a community effort. All my insights are made as a simple newbie who's attempting to tackle the grand campaign. I try to lay out my thoughts/ideas because I find I can organize them better when I have to write them out...also because I really enjoy the feedback from you and the other fourumites.
As for spotting, yes I agree that it tends to underestimate enemy strength..and your 20% number may be a pretty good guesstimate. To reduce the fog of war, I have found that keeping a dedicated recon unit (or two) on a base hex for at least a week is very helpful. Even bombers on ground/airfield attack seem to help detection...and as we know, raising detection levels does wonders for spotting accuracy.
I don't have an exact formula per se; however I like to use a 3:1:1 ratio for Infantry:Armor:Artillery when performing an amphibious assault against a garrison of less that 10K troops. For each 10K increase in garrison, I add another 3:1:1. If I suspect sizable forts, I will also add a combat engineer unit to help with this. I have toyed with including a base force in the initial assault, but I am pretty limited on ship space currently, so I try to maximize AV on the initial wave, and include the base forces/Seabees in the follow on waves.
Dirtnap86-
Thanks for the tips, I've also found that Tsuyung also has a "Burma Road Status" on its base info screen. Not sure how this is tied to the Rangoon status, but currently both of them say the Burma Road is open. As of right now, it seems like supply is flowing into China. Chunking now has a 5K surplus over its normal level of 3x required supply.
I'd love to take the credit, but this AAR has been a community effort. All my insights are made as a simple newbie who's attempting to tackle the grand campaign. I try to lay out my thoughts/ideas because I find I can organize them better when I have to write them out...also because I really enjoy the feedback from you and the other fourumites.
As for spotting, yes I agree that it tends to underestimate enemy strength..and your 20% number may be a pretty good guesstimate. To reduce the fog of war, I have found that keeping a dedicated recon unit (or two) on a base hex for at least a week is very helpful. Even bombers on ground/airfield attack seem to help detection...and as we know, raising detection levels does wonders for spotting accuracy.
I don't have an exact formula per se; however I like to use a 3:1:1 ratio for Infantry:Armor:Artillery when performing an amphibious assault against a garrison of less that 10K troops. For each 10K increase in garrison, I add another 3:1:1. If I suspect sizable forts, I will also add a combat engineer unit to help with this. I have toyed with including a base force in the initial assault, but I am pretty limited on ship space currently, so I try to maximize AV on the initial wave, and include the base forces/Seabees in the follow on waves.
Dirtnap86-
Thanks for the tips, I've also found that Tsuyung also has a "Burma Road Status" on its base info screen. Not sure how this is tied to the Rangoon status, but currently both of them say the Burma Road is open. As of right now, it seems like supply is flowing into China. Chunking now has a 5K surplus over its normal level of 3x required supply.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: Schlussel
Dirtnap86-
Thanks for the tips, I've also found that Tsuyung also has a "Burma Road Status" on its base info screen. Not sure how this is tied to the Rangoon status, but currently both of them say the Burma Road is open. As of right now, it seems like supply is flowing into China. Chunking now has a 5K surplus over its normal level of 3x required supply.
Burma Road.
Further use some toggles east of Chunking..ask for higher draw in Siyang for example if you hold it.
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However as I opined: I think its a case of 'great expectations'.
Most / many Allied 'Rookies in particular' celebrate the opening of the Burma Trail expecting it to transform the war.
Especially as you strive to open it much earlier than it did in history i.e. 1943 or 44 instead of 45.
We plug a million odd supplies into Rangoon in follow up. CAP protected... organized like a fine tuned instrument.
...and then nothing [8D]
It doesn't seem to migrate 'fast enough'.
Alfred's supply and resource guide is very useful here... linked in the War room forums.
Once you understand the 'pace' based on road type you become better equipped to set realistic expectations.
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
You can accelerate the supply movement pace by building the enroute bases to the max. Both in Burma and China.ORIGINAL: Macclan5
ORIGINAL: Schlussel
Dirtnap86-
Thanks for the tips, I've also found that Tsuyung also has a "Burma Road Status" on its base info screen. Not sure how this is tied to the Rangoon status, but currently both of them say the Burma Road is open. As of right now, it seems like supply is flowing into China. Chunking now has a 5K surplus over its normal level of 3x required supply.
Burma Road.
Further use some toggles east of Chunking..ask for higher draw in Siyang for example if you hold it.
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However as I opined: I think its a case of 'great expectations'.
Most / many Allied 'Rookies in particular' celebrate the opening of the Burma Trail expecting it to transform the war.
Especially as you strive to open it much earlier than it did in history i.e. 1943 or 44 instead of 45.
We plug a million odd supplies into Rangoon in follow up. CAP protected... organized like a fine tuned instrument.
...and then nothing [8D]
It doesn't seem to migrate 'fast enough'.
Alfred's supply and resource guide is very useful here... linked in the War room forums.
Once you understand the 'pace' based on road type you become better equipped to set realistic expectations.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Schlussel, I wonder if you could comment on your strategy in the Marshalls. It seems like you've done pretty well there. In my game it's late Sept 43 and I still don't have a foothold in the Marshalls, although Wotje is -- I think -- finally close to falling. Tabituea was never taken by the Japanese, so I built that up, and Tarawa wasn't difficult to take. But everything north of there is away from fighter cover, except for carriers. Bombardments are effective, but slow, and every rock is a level 6 fort that requires a full division at least. It's been very frustrating. I'd like to hear the key to your success!
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Agreed MacClan, I must remember to keep my supply expectations in check (re, the Burma road opening). Although I'm itching to get the Chinese into the fight (to open the proverbial 2nd front), they'll hold off for awhile, I'm sure.
I'll focus on building those bases, thanks for the pro tip BBFanboy.
As for the Marshalls/Gilberts jwolf, my strategy has been to outflank the Japanese strong-points (Tarawa/Kwajalein), and starve out those enemy troop concentrations. Initially I occupied Tabiteuea as you did, and played defense. I looked at attacking the enemy head-on, but was discouraged by the enemies multiple interlocking airfields. My success in the Solomon Islands opened up the option of cutting off the Marshalls/Gilberts, and I think I have finally accomplished that by taking Nauru, Kusaie,Ponape, and ultimately Einewetok. Tarawa/Kwajalein will probably be invaded in late '43 if the situation presents itself (to simplify my supply LOC), but for now I am focused on starving them out, which will make the eventual assaults much easier. I don't care how many forts the enemy has, if you don't have bullets and food, you aren't gonna last long. [:D]
I'll focus on building those bases, thanks for the pro tip BBFanboy.
As for the Marshalls/Gilberts jwolf, my strategy has been to outflank the Japanese strong-points (Tarawa/Kwajalein), and starve out those enemy troop concentrations. Initially I occupied Tabiteuea as you did, and played defense. I looked at attacking the enemy head-on, but was discouraged by the enemies multiple interlocking airfields. My success in the Solomon Islands opened up the option of cutting off the Marshalls/Gilberts, and I think I have finally accomplished that by taking Nauru, Kusaie,Ponape, and ultimately Einewetok. Tarawa/Kwajalein will probably be invaded in late '43 if the situation presents itself (to simplify my supply LOC), but for now I am focused on starving them out, which will make the eventual assaults much easier. I don't care how many forts the enemy has, if you don't have bullets and food, you aren't gonna last long. [:D]
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 85: July 21st – July 27th 1943
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
Gains at Satawal and Eniwetok are secured. CAP at Eniwetok fends off a few more (albeit smaller) IJAF raids. Japan also raids defenseless Satawal, and soes a fair bit of damage to the base force. I manage to route a carrier TF back to Satawal and catch the Japanese bombers without escorts. Results in 23 Bettys downed in one afternoon…jolly good show!
Southern Pacific:
Region is starting to become a backwater area of operations. Lots of shipping moving in and out, but no combat to speak of. As stated previously, I welcome this with open arms.
New Guinea/Solomons:
Important yet un-exciting logistical operations are progressing. Isolation of the Japanese position on the north coast of New Guinea is going swimmingly. 6 AKs were sent to the bottom this week attempting to reach the Japanese bases in the vicinity of Wewak.
In other developments, I have 12 squadrons of Liberators positioned at Mussau and Manus poised to begin pounding the Truk airfield. Operations will begin tomorrow with a combination of day and night raids.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, no Japanese activity.
SE Asia/China:
Allied force trapped on the Moulmein side of the river survive two Japanese shock attacks and hold their position. Reinforcements are on the way (with the correct follow command this time) and should force the river early next week.
Enemy resistance at Taung Gyi finally succumbs to the grinding allied assaults. The Japanese moved SW along the road with the Allies in hot pursuit.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
- No sightings this week.
Notable Base Captures:
-Taung Gyi [Burma] captured by the Allies (7/26)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,542 [+42]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (429), SBD-3 Dauntless (351), P-40K Warhawk (350)
Japanese: 15,321 [+160]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (4,475), Ki-48 Lily (1,707), Ki-27b Nate (1,375)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 556 [+5]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,173 [+8]
Notables: CV Soryu, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,425 [+15]
Japanese: 7,555 [+115]
A/J Ratio: 1.38 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 47,245 [+350]
Japanese: 29,577 [+154]
A/J Ratio: 1.60 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [4EBs prepping at Manus and Mussau]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/4.5K troops/31 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/6.8K troops/48 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 2 units/1.5K troops/31 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab [Recon sights 5 units/9.3K troops/46 guns/34F/26B/18AUX].
Other Notes:
-Allies back on track this week. The once tenuous Allied position outside Moulmein is now self-sufficient. Offensive may resume once reinforcements arrive early next week.
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
Gains at Satawal and Eniwetok are secured. CAP at Eniwetok fends off a few more (albeit smaller) IJAF raids. Japan also raids defenseless Satawal, and soes a fair bit of damage to the base force. I manage to route a carrier TF back to Satawal and catch the Japanese bombers without escorts. Results in 23 Bettys downed in one afternoon…jolly good show!
Southern Pacific:
Region is starting to become a backwater area of operations. Lots of shipping moving in and out, but no combat to speak of. As stated previously, I welcome this with open arms.
New Guinea/Solomons:
Important yet un-exciting logistical operations are progressing. Isolation of the Japanese position on the north coast of New Guinea is going swimmingly. 6 AKs were sent to the bottom this week attempting to reach the Japanese bases in the vicinity of Wewak.
In other developments, I have 12 squadrons of Liberators positioned at Mussau and Manus poised to begin pounding the Truk airfield. Operations will begin tomorrow with a combination of day and night raids.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, no Japanese activity.
SE Asia/China:
Allied force trapped on the Moulmein side of the river survive two Japanese shock attacks and hold their position. Reinforcements are on the way (with the correct follow command this time) and should force the river early next week.
Enemy resistance at Taung Gyi finally succumbs to the grinding allied assaults. The Japanese moved SW along the road with the Allies in hot pursuit.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
- No sightings this week.
Notable Base Captures:
-Taung Gyi [Burma] captured by the Allies (7/26)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,542 [+42]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (429), SBD-3 Dauntless (351), P-40K Warhawk (350)
Japanese: 15,321 [+160]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (4,475), Ki-48 Lily (1,707), Ki-27b Nate (1,375)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 556 [+5]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,173 [+8]
Notables: CV Soryu, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,425 [+15]
Japanese: 7,555 [+115]
A/J Ratio: 1.38 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 47,245 [+350]
Japanese: 29,577 [+154]
A/J Ratio: 1.60 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [4EBs prepping at Manus and Mussau]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/4.5K troops/31 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/6.8K troops/48 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 2 units/1.5K troops/31 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab [Recon sights 5 units/9.3K troops/46 guns/34F/26B/18AUX].
Other Notes:
-Allies back on track this week. The once tenuous Allied position outside Moulmein is now self-sufficient. Offensive may resume once reinforcements arrive early next week.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: Schlussel
New Guinea/Solomons:
Important yet un-exciting logistical operations are progressing. Isolation of the Japanese position on the north coast of New Guinea is going swimmingly. 6 AKs were sent to the bottom this week attempting to reach the Japanese bases in the vicinity of Wewak.
In other developments, I have 12 squadrons of Liberators positioned at Mussau and Manus poised to begin pounding the Truk airfield. Operations will begin tomorrow with a combination of day and night raids.
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Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [4EBs prepping at Manus and Mussau]
Nicely done and again a nice update for newbies following a long.
Long term strategic plans laid out carefully... though overall you must be approx 15 months 'ahead of history'.
Curious:
Neutralization of Truk ? Invasion of Truk ?
Are you contemplating isolation or outright annexation? Play it by gut instinct ?
This is - I think - a constant debate with newer players. You did take Rabul for example (as did I in my first GC). Often new players question "should I invade X" on the main forums or "help invading Y" in a similar vein.
However with Truk there can be a significant cost (troops, time invested, cost verses gain) , especially for the poorly prepared and under-planned.
Truk is an incredibly useful base given its central location.
However playing against the AI on "normal or hard (or some combination)" - the AI is extremely fortified and prepared based on my limited experience. Against a human opponent I can only imagine.
This is one of those decisions that make me love this game because you are actually forced to contemplate some of the very hard decisions Nimitz, MacAurthur, et al actually had to face in real life albeit with the benefit of perfect 20/20 historical vision.
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: Macclan5
Neutralization of Truk ? Invasion of Truk ?
Are you contemplating isolation or outright annexation? Play it by gut instinct ?
Good questions as always MacClan5, this was a tough decision, here were my thoughts regarding an invasion of Truk [in my game]:
Proximity to bases:
-Currently only B-24's and B-17's can reach Truk without using extended ranges...and the Flying Forts are no longer in production, so I have to be careful with their use going forward. In the Rabaul campaign, 2EBs were able to pick up the slack when the 4EBs got fatigued, and this will not be possible in a Truck campaign. The constant bombing of Rabaul allowed the Allies to keep the enemy suppressed while resting the ground troops between deliberate attacks. Looking back, I feel this was crucial to my success.
+Ponape is Allied, and within 2EB range of Truk. The AF there is level 3 and can be built up to level 6 to support an air campaign. Time is an issue here though.
-My attempts to shut off sea supply to Truk using patrolling surface forces (DD groups) has been met by violent enemy air raids from Enemy airfields in the Marianas. I've already lost 2 DDs and the rest have skedaddled out of enemy air range. I could bring in a CV TF, but currently their services are needed elsewhere (and KB is still out there)...plus I don't have enough yet to rotate them out and keep up a continuous blockade. That leaves only the silent service...and while subs have done a nice job sinking merchant traffic thus far, I feel it won't be enough for an effective protracted blockade effort.
-Defenses:
-Rabaul had Level 8 forts when I attacked...Truk will have at least that, plus some deadly Costal Guns (a reacting surface force found that out the hard way)...and the terrain is Jungle+Rough...not a good combo. All of this will most likely result in high amphibious casualties and a protracted land campaign. Truk's usability may be severely diminished by the time it is captured and operational, .
+Rabaul had close to 90K troops, Truk only has about 35K...not sure of the front line/support troop ratio though.
-Capacity:
+Truk is a 7(4) Port and a 5(2) Airfield in a very good location. Facilities are fully expanded and getting the base operational would only involve repairing any damage done by the allied bombing campaign (This took 1 week when capturing Rabaul).
-In the vicinity I already have two level 7 ports [Rabaul and Manus], and Truks level 5 AF might be a little small to support a large bombing campaign against the Marianas. If I can take Yap, it has a larger AF size potential (6), and is closer to the Marianas by about 2 hexes.
Other:
-I am currently playing on the HARD difficulty level, which gives enemy bases some "free" supply to assist the AI, this reduces the effect of a blockade.
-Staking limit is 60K at Truk, so supply will be a bigger issue than at Rabaul.
+Truk is a middle-to-high value base. Taking the base would be a 100+ point swing in the Allies favor.
+Being an island, Truk's defenders will have nowhere to go once defeated.
After careful consideration, my plan is to neutralize and bypass Truk. While it would be great to have, I think the opportunity cost outweighs the benefits. I can always invade in '44 when the defenders there have been isolated & starving for 6 months.[:D]
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Situation Report – August 1st 1943
Central/North Pacific:
Capital Ships: 1-BB (@Pearl Harbor)
Fuel Reserves: 2,636K @ Pearl Harbor
Near-Term Plans: Continue developing bases in Aleutians. Capture bases in the Truk vicinity to isolate it and provide bases to launch Marianas invasion.
Long Term Plans: Marianas invasion. Operation to secure critical bases in Marshalls/Gilberts.
SW Pacific [Formerly New Guinea/Solomons]:
Capital Ships: 6-CV, 6-CVE, 2-CVL, 13-BB
Fuel Reserves:
1,530K @ Noumea
330K @ Milne Bay
194K @ Shortlands
97K @ Rabaul
Near-Term Plans: Update theatre name to more accurately define location of future operations…COMPLETE. Advance up the New Guinea coast and prepare for strikes that will cut the oil lifeline to the Japanese empire.
Long Term Plans: Develop bases to be used as launch points for two axis advance towards DEI/Philippines.
SE Asia/China
Capital Ships: 4-BB (@Colombo)
Fuel Reserves: 1,601K @ Colombo
1,413K @ Rangoon
Near-Term Plans: Capture Moulmein. Allied army will then split up…group one will head down the Malaya peninsula, group two will advance into Thailand to link up with the Chinese.
Long Term Plans: Threaten Singapore from the north.
Base Supply/Construction Status:
Akyab: Port Size: 4.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.61 (+0.11)
Supplies: 171K (100+ Weeks of normal operations)
Attu:
Port Size: 3.50 (+0.21)
Airfield Size: 3.68 (+0.21)
Supplies: 2K (20 Weeks of normal operations)
Eniwetok:
Port Size: 4.17
Airfield Size: 1.03
Supplies: 28K (25+ Weeks of normal operations)
Hollandia:
Port Size: 6.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 16K (8 Weeks of normal operations)
Milne Bay: Port Size: 6.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 7.32 (+0.24)
Supplies: 149K (100+ Weeks of normal operations)
Manus:
Port Size: 7.00 (+0.64)
Airfield Size: 7.98 (+1.06)
Supplies: 66K (20+ Weeks of normal operations)
Mussau:
Port Size: 4.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 7.29 (+0.62)
Supplies: 19K (2 Weeks of normal operations)
Pago-Pago: Port Size: 3.90 (+0.12)
Airfield Size: 6.33 (+0.08)
Supplies: 48K (20+ Weeks of normal operations)
Ramree Island:
Port Size: 2.75 (+0.40)
Airfield Size: 5.73 (+0.46)
Supplies: 17K (5 Weeks of normal operations)
Rabaul:
Port Size: 7.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 167K (6 Weeks of normal operations)
Rangoon:
Port Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 373K (30+ Weeks of normal operations)
Umnak:
Port Size: 3.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 7K (30+ Weeks of normal operations)
New Theater Map:
Central/North Pacific:
Capital Ships: 1-BB (@Pearl Harbor)
Fuel Reserves: 2,636K @ Pearl Harbor
Near-Term Plans: Continue developing bases in Aleutians. Capture bases in the Truk vicinity to isolate it and provide bases to launch Marianas invasion.
Long Term Plans: Marianas invasion. Operation to secure critical bases in Marshalls/Gilberts.
SW Pacific [Formerly New Guinea/Solomons]:
Capital Ships: 6-CV, 6-CVE, 2-CVL, 13-BB
Fuel Reserves:
1,530K @ Noumea
330K @ Milne Bay
194K @ Shortlands
97K @ Rabaul
Near-Term Plans: Update theatre name to more accurately define location of future operations…COMPLETE. Advance up the New Guinea coast and prepare for strikes that will cut the oil lifeline to the Japanese empire.
Long Term Plans: Develop bases to be used as launch points for two axis advance towards DEI/Philippines.
SE Asia/China
Capital Ships: 4-BB (@Colombo)
Fuel Reserves: 1,601K @ Colombo
1,413K @ Rangoon
Near-Term Plans: Capture Moulmein. Allied army will then split up…group one will head down the Malaya peninsula, group two will advance into Thailand to link up with the Chinese.
Long Term Plans: Threaten Singapore from the north.
Base Supply/Construction Status:
Akyab: Port Size: 4.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.61 (+0.11)
Supplies: 171K (100+ Weeks of normal operations)
Attu:
Port Size: 3.50 (+0.21)
Airfield Size: 3.68 (+0.21)
Supplies: 2K (20 Weeks of normal operations)
Eniwetok:
Port Size: 4.17
Airfield Size: 1.03
Supplies: 28K (25+ Weeks of normal operations)
Hollandia:
Port Size: 6.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 16K (8 Weeks of normal operations)
Milne Bay: Port Size: 6.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 7.32 (+0.24)
Supplies: 149K (100+ Weeks of normal operations)
Manus:
Port Size: 7.00 (+0.64)
Airfield Size: 7.98 (+1.06)
Supplies: 66K (20+ Weeks of normal operations)
Mussau:
Port Size: 4.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 7.29 (+0.62)
Supplies: 19K (2 Weeks of normal operations)
Pago-Pago: Port Size: 3.90 (+0.12)
Airfield Size: 6.33 (+0.08)
Supplies: 48K (20+ Weeks of normal operations)
Ramree Island:
Port Size: 2.75 (+0.40)
Airfield Size: 5.73 (+0.46)
Supplies: 17K (5 Weeks of normal operations)
Rabaul:
Port Size: 7.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 167K (6 Weeks of normal operations)
Rangoon:
Port Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 373K (30+ Weeks of normal operations)
Umnak:
Port Size: 3.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 7K (30+ Weeks of normal operations)
New Theater Map:
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Good stuff.
Got me thinking. I should have Rabaul bypassed (I ain't gonna invade against 91,000 spotted troops) and Manus. NE New guinea under control I may change my strt a bit and use the now-open torres strit to get into his oil fields ASAP. Truk is too well garrisoned and Ironman fortifies every latrine like the Maginot Line. But if I can nab Celebes and cut his oil routes he'll have to come out and fight with KB..
Got me thinking. I should have Rabaul bypassed (I ain't gonna invade against 91,000 spotted troops) and Manus. NE New guinea under control I may change my strt a bit and use the now-open torres strit to get into his oil fields ASAP. Truk is too well garrisoned and Ironman fortifies every latrine like the Maginot Line. But if I can nab Celebes and cut his oil routes he'll have to come out and fight with KB..
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: Taxcutter
Good stuff.
Got me thinking. I should have Rabaul bypassed (I ain't gonna invade against 91,000 spotted troops) and Manus. NE New guinea under control I may change my strt a bit and use the now-open torres strit to get into his oil fields ASAP. Truk is too well garrisoned and Ironman fortifies every latrine like the Maginot Line. But if I can nab Celebes and cut his oil routes he'll have to come out and fight with KB..
I like the cut of you jib taxcutter, 90K+ troops are best bypassed. The only thing I would recommend is grabbing Manus...if it can be done on the cheap. Between the enhanced ship repair abilities, and being able to restock BB main gun ammo (with a little NAV support), I have found that having a size 7 port in a forward area quite a lifesaver.
As for drawing out KB, I have no advice for you there, as I have not had any luck at all. The stock AI is playing KB close to the vest (it was @ Hollandia, but it bugged out once I got within 4EB range. Maybe the Ironman AI is a little more aggressive and your plan will draw it out. I wish you luck.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 86: July 28th – August 3rd 1943
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
CV task force stays near Satawal and fends off a few more IJAF raids. Engineers are busy building up the airfield to level 1 (it is currently at 33%) so it Satawal can defend itself.
Southern Pacific:
Logistical operations aplenty, no IJN activity noted.
South-West Pacific:
Supply being moved to Hollandia and the big Allied bases in the New Britain area (Rabaul Manus, Mussau) to support future operations.
Truk bombing campaign gets off to a slow start, as weather grounds the Allied 4EB’s the first half of the week. Currently we have 1 squadron flying night runs while 4 fly in the daylight hours, all targeting the airfield. The last day of the week, I switch one of the daytime raids to a port raid…and I sink 3 subs outright. Reported damage to Truk at the end of the week is 25% Airfield and 4% port. 3 more liberator squadrons are transferring into Manus tomorrow and will all target the port, as Intel reports there are 9 more sitting ducks…err subs, at anchor.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, a small Japanese DD force attacks a lone Allied MTB boat at Brunei. After a protracted battle, the Japanese finally hit and sank the MTB with their deck guns. Not sure if the Japanese will try an amphibious landing, only time will tell.
SE Asia/China:
Allied reinforce their position on the Moulmein side of the river and try a deliberate assault. The result is 1:1 and it drops the forts down from 3 to 2. Each side has about 200 squads knocked out of action, but the Japanese have a much higher percentage of those squads destroyed (not to mention they lost over 120 vehicles). The Allies bombard the rest of the week and will renew the assault tomorrow.
Pursuing forces catch the retreating enemy troops southwest of Taung Gyi and launch a few deliberate attacks that disable most of the Japanese fighting strength. The enemy loses approx. 140 infantry squads this week and AV is next to nil. A shock attack is on tap for tomorrow.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
-12 Subs spotted at Truk
-No capital ship sightings this week.
Notable Base Captures:
-None
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,625 [+83]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (447), P-40K Warhawk (365), SBD-3 Dauntless (351)
Japanese: 15,574 [+253]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (2,338), Ki-48 Lily (1,662), Ki-27b Nate (1,427)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 558 [+2]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,177 [+4]
Notables: CV Soryu, CV Kaga, CV Junyo, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVL Ryuho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,443 [+18]
Japanese: 7,653 [+98]
A/J Ratio: 1.36 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 47,639 [+394]
Japanese: 29,738 [+161]
A/J Ratio: 1.60 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [Airfield is 25% damaged]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/3.7K troops/32 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/6.8K troops/53 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 2 units/2.6K troops/37 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab [Recon sights 5 units/11.8K troops/51 guns/68F/51B/23AUX].
Other Notes:
-CVs Kaga and Ryuho show up on the sunk ships list. I damaged them during the air attacks around Truk in early June ‘43. CV Junyo is also listed as sunk near Tulagi in early May ’42.
-Found out that there is a button on the CVTF main screen that allows you to see all its air squadrons. Prior to this realization, I would have to click on each carrier and open its squadrons one-by-one to give/check orders. This will be quite the time saver…and it will reduce my clicks per turn considerably. That’s what I like to call a Win-Win.
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
CV task force stays near Satawal and fends off a few more IJAF raids. Engineers are busy building up the airfield to level 1 (it is currently at 33%) so it Satawal can defend itself.
Southern Pacific:
Logistical operations aplenty, no IJN activity noted.
South-West Pacific:
Supply being moved to Hollandia and the big Allied bases in the New Britain area (Rabaul Manus, Mussau) to support future operations.
Truk bombing campaign gets off to a slow start, as weather grounds the Allied 4EB’s the first half of the week. Currently we have 1 squadron flying night runs while 4 fly in the daylight hours, all targeting the airfield. The last day of the week, I switch one of the daytime raids to a port raid…and I sink 3 subs outright. Reported damage to Truk at the end of the week is 25% Airfield and 4% port. 3 more liberator squadrons are transferring into Manus tomorrow and will all target the port, as Intel reports there are 9 more sitting ducks…err subs, at anchor.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, a small Japanese DD force attacks a lone Allied MTB boat at Brunei. After a protracted battle, the Japanese finally hit and sank the MTB with their deck guns. Not sure if the Japanese will try an amphibious landing, only time will tell.
SE Asia/China:
Allied reinforce their position on the Moulmein side of the river and try a deliberate assault. The result is 1:1 and it drops the forts down from 3 to 2. Each side has about 200 squads knocked out of action, but the Japanese have a much higher percentage of those squads destroyed (not to mention they lost over 120 vehicles). The Allies bombard the rest of the week and will renew the assault tomorrow.
Pursuing forces catch the retreating enemy troops southwest of Taung Gyi and launch a few deliberate attacks that disable most of the Japanese fighting strength. The enemy loses approx. 140 infantry squads this week and AV is next to nil. A shock attack is on tap for tomorrow.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
-12 Subs spotted at Truk
-No capital ship sightings this week.
Notable Base Captures:
-None
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,625 [+83]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (447), P-40K Warhawk (365), SBD-3 Dauntless (351)
Japanese: 15,574 [+253]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (2,338), Ki-48 Lily (1,662), Ki-27b Nate (1,427)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 558 [+2]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,177 [+4]
Notables: CV Soryu, CV Kaga, CV Junyo, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVL Ryuho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,443 [+18]
Japanese: 7,653 [+98]
A/J Ratio: 1.36 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 47,639 [+394]
Japanese: 29,738 [+161]
A/J Ratio: 1.60 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD waiting for AF to be knocked out]
-Knock out Truk airfield - IN PROCESS [Airfield is 25% damaged]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai [Recon sights 1 unit/3.7K troops/32 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi [Recon sights 2 units/6.8K troops/53 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap [Recon sights 2 units/2.6K troops/37 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab [Recon sights 5 units/11.8K troops/51 guns/68F/51B/23AUX].
Other Notes:
-CVs Kaga and Ryuho show up on the sunk ships list. I damaged them during the air attacks around Truk in early June ‘43. CV Junyo is also listed as sunk near Tulagi in early May ’42.
-Found out that there is a button on the CVTF main screen that allows you to see all its air squadrons. Prior to this realization, I would have to click on each carrier and open its squadrons one-by-one to give/check orders. This will be quite the time saver…and it will reduce my clicks per turn considerably. That’s what I like to call a Win-Win.
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You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
I don't use that Carrier Aircraft list so much because I usually check the CV for sorties remaining, then go through the aircraft on it.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
I don't use that Carrier Aircraft list so much because I usually check the CV for sorties remaining, then go through the aircraft on it.
Well shucks! Your right BBF, I guess I was hoping this screen would make things way easier. But I should know by now that taking shortcuts can result in some serious oversights (as you mentioned). I have done some heavy meditation and am now spiritually 'one' with the click-fest. All is right again with the world. [:D]
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 87: August 4th – August 10th 1943
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
CV task force retired to Rabaul to prepare for the last phase of Operation Forbearance. Satawal’s AF is slowly expanding…currently 45% of the way to level 1.
Truk bombing campaign picks up steam, with more 4EB slowly being added. I currently have 5 Liberator squadrons (at Manus) targeting the port and 6 squadrons a (at Mussau) targeting the Airfield. Port attacks succeed in sinking the remaining shipping (9 Japanese subs) at the isolated Japanese base. Reported damage to Truk at the end of the week is 51% Airfield and 31% port. AF is over 50% damage, so it’s officially knocked out, but I’m keeping the pressure on to ensure Japanese engineers can’t bring it back online.
Southern Pacific:
Two IJN subs show up off the coast of Pago-Pago looking to feed on some defenseless transports. Unfortunately for them, the area is being patrolled by PBYs and an SBD squadron on ASW duty. The Allied formations both have aggressive commanders and enemy subs are attacked and reported hit multiple times…and they show up in the lost ships report. Scratch two more iron coffins.
South-West Pacific:
Shipping gathering at Rabaul, preparing for Ulithi and Woleai invasions. Troop prep is in the lower 70’s, so the operation won’t kick off for a few more weeks.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, no IJN activity noted.
SE Asia/China:
Allied troops renew the offensive and take Moulmein. 14K casualties (including 450 combat squads destroyed) are reported and the enemy retreats in disarray SE towards Rahaeng. 3 British tank brigades are in hot pursuit, while most of the infantry takes a few days to catch their breath. A small Allied detachment also heads down the coast towards Tavoy to scout the enemy defenses.
Enemy troops SW of Taung Gyi are attacked and pushed east off the road and into rough terrain. Allied forces in the area will seek to contain while a small Chinese force races to Chiang Mai to cut off their retreat/supply path.
Mid-week, there is a protracted air battle above Rangoon. For about three days, wave after wave of heavily escorted Japanese bombers impale themselves on the Allied CAP, consisting of 150 Hurricaines/Warhawks. The Japanese get some hits on the base, but the damage is quickly repaired. After it is all said and done, almost 300 Japanese planes (mostly bombers) are lost. The cost to the Allies is significantly lower (40-45 fighters lost), but there are lots of damaged airframes. Allied CAP drops from 100 planes to under 20 in the span of three days, so the base somewhat vulnerable in the short term.
CA Louisville and friends (DD escorts), patrol outside Moulmein and catch 6 AK’s and a few E boats evacuating troops from the base. All enemy shipping is sent to the bottom and a reported 1,500 casualties are inflicted.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
-9 Subs spotted at Truk
-No capital ship sightings this week.
Notable Base Captures:
- Moulmein [Burma] captured by the Allies (8/6)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,719 [+94]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (457), P-40K Warhawk (388), SBD-3 Dauntless (360)
Japanese: 15,919 [+345]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (4,659), Ki-48 Lily (1,673), Ki-27b Nate (1,575)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 558 [+0]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,206 [+29]
Notables: CV Soryu, CV Kaga, CV Junyo, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVL Ryuho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,457 [+14]
Japanese: 7,900 [+247]
A/J Ratio: 1.32 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 48,467 [+828]
Japanese: 29,836 [+98]
A/J Ratio: 1.62 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD’s moving into position]
-Knock out Truk airfield - COMPLETE [Airfield is 51% damaged]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 1 unit/4.8K troops/22 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 2 units/8.8K troops/50 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 2 units/2.1K troops/40 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 5 units/9.1K troops/64 guns/54F/66B/25AUX].
Other Notes:
-The sub war has become increasingly dull. Both sides are getting very few kills, and escorts and ASW patrols are becoming much more effective on both sides. I really can’t complain, but I am repositioning some of the Allied subs to see if I can mix things up.
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.
Central Pacific:
CV task force retired to Rabaul to prepare for the last phase of Operation Forbearance. Satawal’s AF is slowly expanding…currently 45% of the way to level 1.
Truk bombing campaign picks up steam, with more 4EB slowly being added. I currently have 5 Liberator squadrons (at Manus) targeting the port and 6 squadrons a (at Mussau) targeting the Airfield. Port attacks succeed in sinking the remaining shipping (9 Japanese subs) at the isolated Japanese base. Reported damage to Truk at the end of the week is 51% Airfield and 31% port. AF is over 50% damage, so it’s officially knocked out, but I’m keeping the pressure on to ensure Japanese engineers can’t bring it back online.
Southern Pacific:
Two IJN subs show up off the coast of Pago-Pago looking to feed on some defenseless transports. Unfortunately for them, the area is being patrolled by PBYs and an SBD squadron on ASW duty. The Allied formations both have aggressive commanders and enemy subs are attacked and reported hit multiple times…and they show up in the lost ships report. Scratch two more iron coffins.
South-West Pacific:
Shipping gathering at Rabaul, preparing for Ulithi and Woleai invasions. Troop prep is in the lower 70’s, so the operation won’t kick off for a few more weeks.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.
In the DEI, no IJN activity noted.
SE Asia/China:
Allied troops renew the offensive and take Moulmein. 14K casualties (including 450 combat squads destroyed) are reported and the enemy retreats in disarray SE towards Rahaeng. 3 British tank brigades are in hot pursuit, while most of the infantry takes a few days to catch their breath. A small Allied detachment also heads down the coast towards Tavoy to scout the enemy defenses.
Enemy troops SW of Taung Gyi are attacked and pushed east off the road and into rough terrain. Allied forces in the area will seek to contain while a small Chinese force races to Chiang Mai to cut off their retreat/supply path.
Mid-week, there is a protracted air battle above Rangoon. For about three days, wave after wave of heavily escorted Japanese bombers impale themselves on the Allied CAP, consisting of 150 Hurricaines/Warhawks. The Japanese get some hits on the base, but the damage is quickly repaired. After it is all said and done, almost 300 Japanese planes (mostly bombers) are lost. The cost to the Allies is significantly lower (40-45 fighters lost), but there are lots of damaged airframes. Allied CAP drops from 100 planes to under 20 in the span of three days, so the base somewhat vulnerable in the short term.
CA Louisville and friends (DD escorts), patrol outside Moulmein and catch 6 AK’s and a few E boats evacuating troops from the base. All enemy shipping is sent to the bottom and a reported 1,500 casualties are inflicted.
In China, troops are in a defensive posture, hopefully allowing the supply situation to improve enough to allow a small scale offensive.
IJN Watch:
-9 Subs spotted at Truk
-No capital ship sightings this week.
Notable Base Captures:
- Moulmein [Burma] captured by the Allies (8/6)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 5,719 [+94]
Biggest Losses (#): Hurricane IIc (457), P-40K Warhawk (388), SBD-3 Dauntless (360)
Japanese: 15,919 [+345]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (4,659), Ki-48 Lily (1,673), Ki-27b Nate (1,575)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 558 [+0]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 1,206 [+29]
Notables: CV Soryu, CV Kaga, CV Junyo, CVL Shoho, CVL Zuiho, CVL Ryuho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,457 [+14]
Japanese: 7,900 [+247]
A/J Ratio: 1.32 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 48,467 [+828]
Japanese: 29,836 [+98]
A/J Ratio: 1.62 to 1
Operation Forbearance:
Phase 1A: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Establish naval blockade of Truk using DD’s and submarines. - IN PROCESS [subs in place, DD’s moving into position]
-Knock out Truk airfield - COMPLETE [Airfield is 51% damaged]
Phase 1B: [May 1943 to July 1943]
-Assault & capture Kusaie – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Ponape – COMPLETE.
-Assault & capture Eniwetok. – COMPLETE.
Phase 1C: [May 1943 to August 1943]
-Assault & capture Woleai - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 1 unit/4.8K troops/22 guns].
-Assault & capture Ulithi - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 2 units/8.8K troops/50 guns].
-Assault & capture Yap - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 2 units/2.1K troops/40 guns].
-Assault & capture Babeldaoab - IN PROCESS [Recon sights 5 units/9.1K troops/64 guns/54F/66B/25AUX].
Other Notes:
-The sub war has become increasingly dull. Both sides are getting very few kills, and escorts and ASW patrols are becoming much more effective on both sides. I really can’t complain, but I am repositioning some of the Allied subs to see if I can mix things up.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.