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[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: loki100



aye same here too. A not totally undeserved draw at home and all of sudden we can forget about seriously reviewing all the weaknesses in the structure and governance of Scottish football because we are off 'with Ally's army' [1]

[1] a reference that will only make sense to those who remmember the horror that was Scotland's trip to the WC in Argentina in 1978

edit - of course we did actually qualify before the aforementioned horror show so with hindsight maybe it wasn't all that bad?

warspite1

I remember it well [:(] Being British I actually wanted Scotland to do well - especially as England were not in Argentina.

Scotland vs Peru - Oblitas, Cublitas et al - I recall it as though it were yesterday. And as for Archie Gemmill's goal [&o] Sadly for the Scots, just like 4 years earlier, it was goodbye at the first hurdle (although 4 years earlier they were unbeaten and only went out because they couldn't thrash Zaire)...

As for qualification, well.....

How's this for some totally unbiased commentary [:D] Even with the action replay!!

"A handball if ever there was one, the referee perfectly correct"..... yeah errr the handball was actually by an arm clad in blue wasn't it Mr Jordan?.....

With the score at 0-0 and deep into the second half, Scotland needed to win that game to pip the Welsh to qualification. Heart-breaking for the Welsh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXf3n1Mv0I

So what was Mr Jordan's explanation?

warspite1

As far as I am aware, he has never directly commented.

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

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So what was Mr Jordan's explanation?

warspite1

As far as I am aware, he has never directly commented.

I think he was of a mindset that any bit of undetected cheating and thuggery was perfectly ok as long as you got away with it?

[terje439]

IFAB has suggested some drastic changes to the sport;

1. A freekick can be sent to yourself.
2. The ball no longer has to leave own 16 after a 5m or free kick within own 16.
3. Freekicks can be taken on a rolling ball
4. If a defending player (other than the keeper) uses his hands to stop the ball on the goal line, a goal is to be rewarded to the attacking team.
5. The ref can only stop the match if the ball is out of play
6. If a keeper picks up a pass from his own players, a penalty will be given to the other team.
7. After a penalty miss (save or miss) a 5m is to be given
8. Match time reduced to 60mins. Clock stopped every time the ball is out of play.
[X(]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: terje439

IFAB has suggested some drastic changes to the sport;

1. A freekick can be sent to yourself.
2. The ball no longer has to leave own 16 after a 5m or free kick within own 16.
3. Freekicks can be taken on a rolling ball
4. If a defending player (other than the keeper) uses his hands to stop the ball on the goal line, a goal is to be rewarded to the attacking team.
5. The ref can only stop the match if the ball is out of play
6. If a keeper picks up a pass from his own players, a penalty will be given to the other team.
7. After a penalty miss (save or miss) a 5m is to be given
8. Match time reduced to 60mins. Clock stopped every time the ball is out of play.
[X(]

Bonkers. [X(] [:(]

Thank you for sharing. [&o]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: terje439

IFAB has suggested some drastic changes to the sport;

1. A freekick can be sent to yourself.
2. The ball no longer has to leave own 16 after a 5m or free kick within own 16.
3. Freekicks can be taken on a rolling ball
4. If a defending player (other than the keeper) uses his hands to stop the ball on the goal line, a goal is to be rewarded to the attacking team.
5. The ref can only stop the match if the ball is out of play
6. If a keeper picks up a pass from his own players, a penalty will be given to the other team.
7. After a penalty miss (save or miss) a 5m is to be given
8. Match time reduced to 60mins. Clock stopped every time the ball is out of play.
[X(]

warspite1

Who/what is IFAB?

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Who/what is IFAB?

International Football Association Board is the guys who decides the rules for football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... tion_Board

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Who/what is IFAB?

International Football Association Board is the guys who decides the rules for football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... tion_Board

warspite1

[:@]

If football were struggling, attendances falling, people moving to other sports, revenues from sponsors and TV falling, reflecting a reduction in appeal, I could understand why changes would perhaps need to be considered.

But that is not happening - it is the world game - and its popularity continues to grow. Leave it alone you morons.

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

[:@]

If football were struggling, attendances falling, people moving to other sports, revenues from sponsors and TV falling, reflecting a reduction in appeal, I could understand why changes would perhaps need to be considered.

But that is not happening - it is the world game - and its popularity continues to grow. Leave it alone you morons.

Hear, hear.

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

[:@]

If football were struggling, attendances falling, people moving to other sports, revenues from sponsors and TV falling, reflecting a reduction in appeal, I could understand why changes would perhaps need to be considered.

But that is not happening - it is the world game - and its popularity continues to grow. Leave it alone you morons.

Hear, hear.

Do soccer leagues have salary caps, like American sports do?

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

[:@]

If football were struggling, attendances falling, people moving to other sports, revenues from sponsors and TV falling, reflecting a reduction in appeal, I could understand why changes would perhaps need to be considered.

But that is not happening - it is the world game - and its popularity continues to grow. Leave it alone you morons.

Hear, hear.

Do soccer leagues have salary caps, like American sports do?

Nope, but there are some rules that apply in some leagues like Premier League. You cannot increase your yearly wage budget more than a set percent.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Who/what is IFAB?

International Football Association Board is the guys who decides the rules for football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... tion_Board

warspite1

[:@]

If football were struggling, attendances falling, people moving to other sports, revenues from sponsors and TV falling, reflecting a reduction in appeal, I could understand why changes would perhaps need to be considered.

But that is not happening - it is the world game - and its popularity continues to grow. Leave it alone you morons.

I have issues understanding some of the rules they want to implement...
1. I guess this is to increase the action
2. This one I do not get as it encourages defensive play
3. Same as #1 I suppose
4. For fair play I guess, but awarding a goal is alot...
5. To prevent acting by players to stop an attack
6. Sounds harsh
7. No idea why they would want to do this
8. Only reason I can think about is upcoming tournament in very hot areas.

Sounds rubbish to me.

[VPaulus]

Yeah, it's just plain rubbish and I bet most football fans won't like these new rules.
I hope the good sense will prevail.

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: terje439

8. Only reason I can think about is upcoming tournament in very hot areas.

You are to nice and think of player health.

But I suspect that the ones in favour of this rule change doesn't care about player health at all. They just think about money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0

I am pretty sure they want to stop the game clock so they can put in commercial breaks. [:@] [:(] [:-]

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: terje439

8. Only reason I can think about is upcoming tournament in very hot areas.

You are to nice and think of player health.

But I suspect that the ones in favour of this rule change doesn't care about player health at all. They just think about money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0

I am pretty sure they want to stop the game clock so they can put in commercial breaks. [:@] [:(] [:-]

With #8 I ment in regard to 60 min matches

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: terje439

8. Only reason I can think about is upcoming tournament in very hot areas.

You are to nice and think of player health.

But I suspect that the ones in favour of this rule change doesn't care about player health at all. They just think about money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0

I am pretty sure they want to stop the game clock so they can put in commercial breaks. [:@] [:(] [:-]

With #8 I ment in regard to 60 min matches

So did I.

If they stop the time when the ball is out of bounds then there is no hurry to start play and time again. They can make the break as long as the company broadcasting the match wants the break to be. Football following the path of American Football. Long breaks followed by short intense spurts of play. Need a timeout? Kick the ball out of bounds and talk during the commercial break.

The 60 minutes refer to actual play time. There is nothing stating for how long the clock will be stopped so the actual match can take longer. More money for all involved.

[terje439]

Ah, yeah see your point. That would ruin the game, more so than in the NFL. Football can as anyone that watches the game, be decided by a strong period by one team (miracle in Istanbul anyone), and prolonged breaks could be enough for the other team to recover.

All hail Coca Cola and McD I suppose [:(]

[warspite1]

What is going on with English football??? Hot on the heels of our Under 20's winning the World Cup, the Under 21's have just comfortably won their group..... I need a lie down...

[shunwick]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

[:@]

If football were struggling, attendances falling, people moving to other sports, revenues from sponsors and TV falling, reflecting a reduction in appeal, I could understand why changes would perhaps need to be considered.

But that is not happening - it is the world game - and its popularity continues to grow. Leave it alone you morons.

Hear, hear.

Do soccer leagues have salary caps, like American sports do?

The MLS has salary caps and a complex drafting mechanic to govern transfers.

Of course, the MLS does not yet have promotion and relegation despite regular calls for such. In the US, football is a rapidly growing sport but it is still early days for American fans of the game.

Best wishes,
Steve

[shunwick]

ORIGINAL: terje439

IFAB has suggested some drastic changes to the sport;

1. A freekick can be sent to yourself.
2. The ball no longer has to leave own 16 after a 5m or free kick within own 16.
3. Freekicks can be taken on a rolling ball
4. If a defending player (other than the keeper) uses his hands to stop the ball on the goal line, a goal is to be rewarded to the attacking team.
5. The ref can only stop the match if the ball is out of play
6. If a keeper picks up a pass from his own players, a penalty will be given to the other team.
7. After a penalty miss (save or miss) a 5m is to be given
8. Match time reduced to 60mins. Clock stopped every time the ball is out of play.
[X(]

1. The idea is make the game more fluid. Corners, free kicks, throw-ins etc can be taking more quickly if the team in possession wishes to do so.
2. I always thought it was a bit strange that the ball had to leave the penalty area.
3. Again, the idea is to make the game more fluid. Can lead to confusion though. "Hang on Ref... I didn't take the free kick, I was just passing to my mate who was going to take the free kick."
4. Players handling the ball in order to stop a certain goal would get red carded and the goal is awarded anyway. It's a "cheats shouldn't prosper" rule.
5. One of the major criticisms of football rules in the US is that people do not know exactly when the game will end. Seriously, they are confused about it. This is to add a little more clarity to how long the game will go on for with ref's watch and the electronic scoreboard in sync.
6. Harsh. But again, fluidity is the thinking...
7. Basically, you get one chance to score a penalty. Rebounds from the woodwork or the keeper would be not be allowed. The idea is stop encroachment during a penalty kick.
8. Curiously, the thinking behind this to increase the amount of football being played. According to IFAB, studies have shown that in 90 minute matches, it is quite common for less that 60 mins of actual football being played. It also plays into the US confusion about when the game will end.
9. Only the captains will be allowed to talk to the ref. The idea is to prevent ref's from being mobbed and intimidated by irate players.

Note though that these are only suggestions and there will be a lot of scrutiny, discussion and trials before any of these enhance or ruin the beautiful game.

Some proposed changes are being trialled at the moment. The ABBA amendment to penalty shootouts is being used in the Confederations Cup right now. Instead of penalty shootouts going ABAB... They will now be in the order ABBA...

Best wishes,
Steve

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: shunwick

ORIGINAL: terje439

IFAB has suggested some drastic changes to the sport;

1. A freekick can be sent to yourself.
2. The ball no longer has to leave own 16 after a 5m or free kick within own 16.
3. Freekicks can be taken on a rolling ball
4. If a defending player (other than the keeper) uses his hands to stop the ball on the goal line, a goal is to be rewarded to the attacking team.
5. The ref can only stop the match if the ball is out of play
6. If a keeper picks up a pass from his own players, a penalty will be given to the other team.
7. After a penalty miss (save or miss) a 5m is to be given
8. Match time reduced to 60mins. Clock stopped every time the ball is out of play.
[X(]

1. The idea is make the game more fluid. Corners, free kicks, throw-ins etc can be taking more quickly if the team in possession wishes to do so.
2. I always thought it was a bit strange that the ball had to leave the penalty area.
3. Again, the idea is to make the game more fluid. Can lead to confusion though. "Hang on Ref... I didn't take the free kick, I was just passing to my mate who was going to take the free kick."
4. Players handling the ball in order to stop a certain goal would get red carded and the goal is awarded anyway. It's a "cheats shouldn't prosper" rule.
5. One of the major criticisms of football rules in the US is that people do not know exactly when the game will end. Seriously, they are confused about it. This is to add a little more clarity to how long the game will go on for with ref's watch and the electronic scoreboard in sync.
6. Harsh. But again, fluidity is the thinking...
7. Basically, you get one chance to score a penalty. Rebounds from the woodwork or the keeper would be not be allowed. The idea is stop encroachment during a penalty kick.
8. Curiously, the thinking behind this to increase the amount of football being played. According to IFAB, studies have shown that in 90 minute matches, it is quite common for less that 60 mins of actual football being played. It also plays into the US confusion about when the game will end.
9. Only the captains will be allowed to talk to the ref. The idea is to prevent ref's from being mobbed and intimidated by irate players.

Note though that these are only suggestions and there will be a lot of scrutiny, discussion and trials before any of these enhance or ruin the beautiful game.

Some proposed changes are being trialled at the moment. The ABBA amendment to penalty shootouts is being used in the Confederations Cup right now. Instead of penalty shootouts going ABAB... They will now be in the order ABBA...

Best wishes,
Steve

Why not change the offside rule, while they're at it?