The Weight is a great song, having grown up near Nazareth...I always felt there was a deeper meaning to the song, but if there is...it wasn't intentional.
That is a lot like another favorite song of mine, Dylan's "Tangled up in Blue." It rhymed and sounded it right was about all the deeper meaning in that one according to Dylan.
It would never been "Stonewall's cavalry," though. It would always be "Stonewall's foot cavalry."
There's no disguising it - Joan gets it wrong if she's singing "Stonewall's cavalry." There was no such thing. Besides, Stonewall's foot cavalry was never anywhere close to the Danville train.
Just making a historical note, not justifying the song at all. It's "Stoneman"
Here Joan says "So much Calvary came" and the song sheet says "Till Stoneman's Cavlary" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_eK9ERNChI
Change due to Stoneman's remembrance being bitter. So Ive read.
Amazing that folks in the '70s (and later) still harbored such feelings about Sherman, Stoneman, Butler, etc. so that it would show up in rock or folk songs, movies, stories, etc. But that's the way it is in the South, even to this day among some.
In the mid-1990s, I was researching Augustus R. Wright, a Georgian who served in the US House, the Confederate House, as a Confederate officer, sired 17 children four of whom served in the Confederate army, was a prominent judge, lawyer and preacher....and strongly opposed secession from the Union. One day I excitedly told my law partner, Jimmy Dick Maddox, whose grandfather had been a Confederate cavalryman and later a US Congressman, about my research of Judge Wright. After a few minutes, Jimmy Dix began stroking his chin. Then he quietly told me, "My father did not like that man. He was not a loyal southerner."
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Amazing that folks in the '70s (and later) still harbored such feelings about Sherman, Stoneman, Butler, etc. so that it would show up in rock or folk songs, movies, stories, etc. But that's the way it is in the South, even to this day among some.
In the mid-1990s, I was researching Augustus R. Wright, a Georgian who served in the US House, the Confederate House, as a Confederate officer, sired 17 children four of whom served in the Confederate army, was a prominent judge, lawyer and preacher....and strongly opposed secession from the Union. One day I excitedly told my law partner, Jimmy Dick Maddox, whose grandfather had been a Confederate cavalryman and later a US Congressman, about my research of Judge Wright. After a few minutes, Jimmy Dix began stroking his chin. Then he quietly told me, "My father did not like that man. He was not a loyal southerner."
Some families are still trying to remember where they hid the family silver...[:D]
It would never been "Stonewall's cavalry," though. It would always be "Stonewall's foot cavalry."
There's no disguising it - Joan gets it wrong if she's singing "Stonewall's cavalry." There was no such thing. Besides, Stonewall's foot cavalry was never anywhere close to the Danville train.
Baez based her version on listening to records, not reading the lyrics, and like most folk music it morphs over the years.
I humbly suggest that she knew little about the ACW leaders other than Grant and Patton.
Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum
It would never been "Stonewall's cavalry," though. It would always be "Stonewall's foot cavalry."
There's no disguising it - Joan gets it wrong if she's singing "Stonewall's cavalry." There was no such thing. Besides, Stonewall's foot cavalry was never anywhere close to the Danville train.
Baez based her version on listening to records, not reading the lyrics, and like most folk music it morphs over the years.
I humbly suggest that she knew little about the ACW leaders other than Grant and Patton.
[:D]
Are you trying to see if we are paying attention?
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
I hadn't heard this version until you posted it last night, DW. Now I can't get it out of my head. It's really good. Thanks.
You're welcome.
I've always felt that with some groups, including The Band, live versions of their music are better than studio versions. The studio versions are cleaner, but the live versions have much more depth of feeling.
It was in this thread that someone turned me on to the live symphonic performance of "Ecstasy of Gold" with Susanna Rigacci. That's become one of my favorite videos.
This seems to be a good AAR for things like that....
Amazing that folks in the '70s (and later) still harbored such feelings about Sherman, Stoneman, Butler, etc. so that it would show up in rock or folk songs, movies, stories, etc. But that's the way it is in the South, even to this day among some.
The aftereffects of the ACW are not purely psychological. IIRC, it was sometime about 1960 that the town of Frederick, Maryland finished paying off the bank loan that financed part of Jubal Early's ransom in July 1864.
"Leveling large cities has a tendency to alienate the affections of the inhabitants and does not create an atmosphere of international good will after the war." -Rear Admiral Daniel V. Gallery
Amazing that folks in the '70s (and later) still harbored such feelings about Sherman, Stoneman, Butler, etc. so that it would show up in rock or folk songs, movies, stories, etc. But that's the way it is in the South, even to this day among some.
The after effects of the ACW are not purely psychological. IIRC, it was sometime about 1960 that the town of Frederick, Maryland finished paying off the bank loan that financed part of Jubal Early's ransom in July 1864.
The government was still paying Civil War widow pensions until 2004....
It's aways interesting to see when the last pension or payment by a government to certain individual or institution was made, as usually it's years after you would have thought.
The final payment that the British Treasury made on the debt it owed to the American government for Lend-Lease was made in December of 2006, when the final payment was made, the British Government formally thanked America for its wartime support.
The final payments made by the British Treasury to pay off the debt incurred during World War I were paid in 2015. At the same time, they also finished off payments on debts the British government incurred when the South Sea Company collapsed in 1720 (a span of 295 years).
I read something about 10 or so years ago, that the US gov't was still paying a widow's pension to a Civil War soldiers wife.
Story went like this - a 14/15 year old married a 90 year old Civil War vet around 1910-1920, and then this gold-digger lived to be 90+years herself, collecting $$ from the gov't the entire time.
That happened frequently - old veteran marrying very young woman, who then draws a widow's pension into the 1990s and 2000s.
But they typically weren't "gold-diggers." To be honest, they typically were women with no good prospects for marriage. IE, they were often homely young ladies who knew the chances of marrying a likely young man of their own generation had come and gone, either with the wind or their rather uncomely appearances.j
But marry an old Confederate veteran and be guaranteed a pension for life. And you know how older men are - nearly any woman of a certain age looks good.
Does that sound crass?
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
It would never been "Stonewall's cavalry," though. It would always be "Stonewall's foot cavalry."
There's no disguising it - Joan gets it wrong if she's singing "Stonewall's cavalry." There was no such thing. Besides, Stonewall's foot cavalry was never anywhere close to the Danville train.
Baez based her version on listening to records, not reading the lyrics, and like most folk music it morphs over the years.
I humbly suggest that she knew little about the ACW leaders other than Grant and Patton.
[:D]
Are you trying to see if we are paying attention?
No,
I was suggesting that Joan Baez was a Folk Singer, and didnt give a stuff about the words as long as they roughly fitted the tune.
If you want to pick the eyes out of another song try "AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA"
Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum
I came across this post by John in a thread in the Mod forum: "Michael has a whole bunch of time off coming and I am going to limit myself to a turn a day with Dan so we can get the Mods buffed up and worked on."
For whatever reason, John hasn't mentioned this to me. He is not the Great Communicator.
If John is planning a slow down - if he feels he needs one - that's significant because we're only playing at slightly more than one turn per day (1.05 over the past three months; about 1.25 over the past month). IE, if he's consciously planning a slowdown and thinking we're playing at a pace considerably more than we actually are...and if he does slow down markedly...things are going to tail off considerably.
He's in a real pickle in the game right now, so that's what I really think is going on. It's tough to get up every morning and go to work when the work environment is mayhem and unhappy news and beatings.
I hope he'll continue to soldier on even if it's just the occasional turn. I think he will. He's done a commendable job thus far and I think he wants to see it through. I hope so, because I sure do.
In the meantime, I'm going to pick up the Allied side that Joseph just dropped in his game vs. Obvert, beginning February 1944. I'll give the game with John priority, but at one turn per day or less, that won't be an issue.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
I came across this post by John in a thread in the Mod forum: "Michael has a whole bunch of time off coming and I am going to limit myself to a turn a day with Dan so we can get the Mods buffed up and worked on."
For whatever reason, John hasn't mentioned this to me. He is not the Great Communicator.
If John is planning a slow down - if he feels he needs one - that's significant because we're only playing at slightly more than one turn per day (1.05 over the past three months; about 1.25 over the past month). IE, if he's consciously planning a slowdown and thinking we're playing at a pace considerably more than we actually are...and if he does slow down markedly...things are going to tail off considerably.
He's in a real pickle in the game right now, so that's what I really think is going on. It's tough to get up every morning and go to work when the work environment is mayhem and unhappy news and beatings.
I hope he'll continue to soldier on even if it's just the occasional turn. I think he will. He's done a commendable job thus far and I think he wants to see it through. I hope so, because I sure do.
In the meantime, I'm going to pick up the Allied side that Joseph just dropped in his game vs. Obvert, beginning February 1944. I'll give the game with John priority, but at one turn per day or less, that won't be an issue.
I wouldn't complain. I just had another opponent do the "one turn per day... then twice per week... then once per week... and now three weeks with nothing, not even an email or anything."
Another game tried, and didn't make it out of '42... again. *sigh*
