8x 5in/25 Mk 10 + 4x 3in/50 Mk 10 -> 10x 5in/25 Mk 10
16x 1.1in Mk 1 AA -> 24 1.1in Mk 1 AA
12x 0.5in Mk III AA -> 16x 20mm AA
CXAM AS radar remains the same
CXAM SS radar -> SC SS radar
It may be me, but I do not see that much of a difference between the upgrades. Perhaps there is something I am not seeing? I am not an expert in this.
That is some serious work. The work on the Dunkerque is pop & swap. The Constitution is getting hydraulics, fire control, ready ammo storage...a lot of work...done.
In my BtS game, I had BC Repulse at Sydney( repair shipyard of 30 ) and it would not upgrade even though it says it needs a size 15 or larger shipyard.
I have her moving to PH now to see if that is big enough.
Let me know how that turns out.
Have you converted any of the CLV/CAV yet?
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8x 5in/25 Mk 10 + 4x 3in/50 Mk 10 -> 10x 5in/25 Mk 10
16x 1.1in Mk 1 AA -> 24 1.1in Mk 1 AA
12x 0.5in Mk III AA -> 16x 20mm AA
CXAM AS radar remains the same
CXAM SS radar -> SC SS radar
It may be me, but I do not see that much of a difference between the upgrades. Perhaps there is something I am not seeing? I am not an expert in this.
Will work on the consistency of the two. Have you found any others?
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Michael and I had a great today, as I was driving around the various stores, and I think we have the potential of some very interesting plans based on the stronger reaction by USA to the Hepburn Report.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
Michael and I had a great today, as I was driving around the various stores, and I think we have the potential of some very interesting plans based on the stronger reaction by USA to the Hepburn Report.
While John is away with family for weekend, I'm trying to do my part with Japan's OOB. I've got some of the IJN BFs, Spec BFs, and Port Units set to upgrade in mid-43. However, when I open a head-to-head game to check things out, they can upgrade immediately (various Air HQs have same issue). John wants to go back to refineries NOT producing supplies, so I need someone to see if I've created enough LI and Resources for this to occur. I need a better modder than me to PM me so I can send them the files and tell me after fixing them what I've done wrong.
In my BtS game, I had BC Repulse at Sydney( repair shipyard of 30 ) and it would not upgrade even though it says it needs a size 15 or larger shipyard.
I have her moving to PH now to see if that is big enough.
Home from the weekend. Had a marvelous ride on the Royal Gorge Railroad and had a magnificent meal while riding. Highly recommend this experience to anyone coming to southern Colorado.
Will fix the French upgrades Kitakami. You are totally correct about that!
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Been percolating on a slightly more 'interesting' Allied deployment favored by Adm Kimmel and pushed by the Hepburn Report. The premise is that the United States, acting a greater concern regarding Japan, works to deploy and enhance base construction and garrisoning at a slightly faster rate then IRL. Anything NEW is listed with the base. You'll see some troops, shipping, base modifications, and supply/fuel additions. Nothing HUGE but enough to really provide the Allied player a few more options as well as a few rude surprises for the Japanese player.
The Hepburn Board. -- On June 7, 1938, acting Secretary of the Navy Charles Edison appointed a board consisting of Rear Admiral Arthur J. Hepburn, Commandant of the Twelfth Naval District, as senior member, and Rear Admiral Edward J. Marquart, Captain James S. Woods, Captain Arthur L. Bristol, Jr., Captain Ralph Whitman, C.E.C., as members, with Lieutenant Commander William E. Hilbert as recorder.
The board, which became known as the Hepburn Board, made an exhaustive survey of the strategic needs in connection with the naval defense of the United States and of existing facilities for meeting those needs. In an outstanding report submitted to Congress on December 27, 1938, the board recommended the establishment of new air bases and the expansion of existing bases to provide three major air bases on each coast, one in the Canal Zone, and one in Hawaii; with outlying operating bases in the West Indies, Alaska, and our Pacific island possessions. The board also recommended that the naval air training station at Pensacola be greatly enlarged and that possibly an additional air training station be established at Corpus Christi, Texas; new submarine bases be established in Alaska and the mid-Pacific area, and several existing stations be improved or retained. Some additional facilities were suggested for the existing destroyer bases at Philadelphia and San Diego. No new mine bases were considered necessary, but certain deficiencies were noted in existing bases. A general priority schedule was set up, based on the necessity for providing facilities when the ships and aircraft authorized by the Vinson bill would be completed. In addition, there was a list of projects, considered to be of immediate strategic importance, which should be undertaken at the earliest practicable date. These items were: (1) improvement of air facilities at Kaneohe Bay. Hawaii; (2) submarine and air bases at Wake Island, Midway Island, and Guam; (3) air facilities at Johnston Island and Palmyra Island; (4) air and submarine bases at Kodiak and Sitka; (5) and submarine facilities at San Juan, Puerto Rico.
In making its studies and formulating its report, the Hepburn Board drew upon the great mass of plans and projects that had been developed by the various bureaus of the Navy as being desirable. As Admiral Hepburn testified at the Congressional hearings on his report, "I would say that every item that the board has suggested has been considered in the past some time by one department or another or by the Joint Board involved, and they have been put down as projects to be attained when they can get the money."4 The board performed an invaluable service in taking all these proposals and, within the framework of definite strategic necessities and available facilities, formulating a comprehensive and coordinated plan for development, especially in the field of aircraft.
Although the estimated cost of the programs set up by the Hepburn Board report was $326,216,000, the first request for authorization from Congress to initiate the program was for $65,000,000 to cover a three-year program. However, events were mounting rapidly, and by the time this program was well under way it had been overshadowed by the need for even greater and more expensive developments. In the general defense program that was to begin a year later, practically all the board's recommendations, except those relating to Guam, were carried out and contributed materially to our position when war actually developed.
December 7, 1941
Changes in Deployment and Bases
NoPac
Umnak
Convoy: APs: Henry Allen, Examiner, Santa Inez, Santa Barbara, and 3 AK
Escort: CL Concord and DDs Harwood, Decatur, Hart, and Smith
47th Construction Regiment, and 1/153 Inf Bn
Supply: 2,500 Fuel: 250
Dutch Harbor
VP-24 (6 PBYs)
Cold Bay
808th Aviation Eng Bn and 3/153 Inf Bn (from Annette Isle)
Fort-1
Supply: 1,500 Fuel: 150
Imagine this pair of Task Forces first arriving at Cold Bay then unloading, moving on to Dutch Harbor and unloading supplies/fuel, and finally Umnak having just finished unloading on Dec 7th.
CenPac
Pearl Harbor
2nd USMC Para Bn, 2nd Pioneer Bn, 34th Inf Reg, and 198th Field Artillery
Pago Pago
TF 421 (6 PT Boats)
VMSB-231 (18 Vindicators) and 51st/16th PS (18 P-40)
2nd and 7th Marine Def Bn, 104th USN Base Force, and 30th Base Group
P-2 AF-2 Fort-2
Disbanded in Port:
Convoy: APs: Pres Polk—Madison—Monroe, AKs Alcoa Pathfinder, Shooting Star, and Ruth Alexander, 4 SS (S-Boats), AS Fulton, and an AM
Escorts: CLs Detroit and Raleigh with DDs Oreleck, SP Lee, Woodbury, and Delphy
The SCOUTING FORCE Near Jarvis Isle
CLV Jacksonville (12 Buffalo and 6 SBD)
BCs Ranger and Constellation
CAs Indianapolis and Salt Lake City
DD: 6
CV Enterprise and Lexington's TFs begin in their historical locations.
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One thing I really like about BTS is the 20mm armed Oscar. Have you considered what if's centered around fighter designs built around 12.7 mm and 20mm instead of 7.7mm and 12.7mm guns? Maybe turn the 7.7mm's into HMG squads in SNLF's?
Michael has sent me the files with his work done in them. I now have them for final work before being ready to release Between the Storms.
My 'To Do' list:
1. Check LCU Upgrades for Japan
2. Re-work the A6 development line to simplify production and useless clutter.
3. Check DB/TB upgrade paths.
4. Work all the IJN CV Air Group names to a more Japanese feel.
5. Change starting Allied Bases and LCU locations as detailed earlier.
6. Work French units.
7. IJN Pilot Pools
8. Slight reduction in IJN Pilot XP at start.
Is there something there not listed that needs to be done?
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
Michael has sent me the files with his work done in them. I now have them for final work before being ready to release Between the Storms.
My 'To Do' list:
1. Check LCU Upgrades for Japan
2. Re-work the A6 development line to simplify production and useless clutter.
3. Check DB/TB upgrade paths.
4. Work all the IJN CV Air Group names to a more Japanese feel.
5. Change starting Allied Bases and LCU locations as detailed earlier.
Is there something there not listed that needs to be done?
Hi John,
In looking at the game I downloaded, it looks like several Divisions are scattered a bit. And a few have Chain-of-Command issues. Unless there's a need in your scenario, maybe you could just make all of those divisions start "whole" and let the player break them down if needed?
Are there any ship types that can be converted to mine sweepers? It looks like Japan is a little light in those.
DW
I try to live by two words - tenacity and gratitude. Tenacity gets me where I want to go and gratitude ensures I'm not angry along the way. - Henry Winkler.
The great aim of education is not knowledge but action. - Herbert Spencer
Michael has sent me the files with his work done in them. I now have them for final work before being ready to release Between the Storms.
My 'To Do' list:
1. Check LCU Upgrades for Japan
2. Re-work the A6 development line to simplify production and useless clutter.
3. Check DB/TB upgrade paths.
4. Work all the IJN CV Air Group names to a more Japanese feel.
5. Change starting Allied Bases and LCU locations as detailed earlier.
Is there something there not listed that needs to be done?
After going through 8 months of BtS Lite Allied play, doing 2-day turns against the AI. I think I will be seduced by the Dark Side (TM), and play as the Allies when the new iteration comes out.
Being totally honest, I do not see the need for more toys on the Allied side. With the additions to the USN and the British Navy, plus the appearance of the French Navy, I think there is enough toys to play with already. True, initial Japanese power is high, but there is more than enough to counter it if the Allied player is patient and cautious.
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