unknown IJN Battleship

[geofflambert]

Another

[geofflambert]

another

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Here's another

NSFW? [;)]

[Chickenboy]

This picture is in the book "Battle of Surigao Strait" by Anthony Tully:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/Surigao/Ba ... Strait.htm

Other online discussions contend that this was either Fuso or Yamashiro. Yet others claim it was either a Kongo class or even some Japanese CA. I've yet to see original primary source material rather than online conjecture.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

This picture is in the book "Battle of Surigao Strait" by Anthony Tully:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/Surigao/Ba ... Strait.htm

Other online discussions contend that this was either Fuso or Yamashiro. Yet others claim it was either a Kongo class or even some Japanese CA. I've yet to see original primary source material rather than online conjecture.

Many authors take a photo they have found and include it in their books without checking its provenance. In this case, Fuso and Yamashiro are absolutely ruled out by their tall, convoluted superstructures, unlike the stocky tower in the picture. Hiei and Kirishima had fairly clean towers but Nagato seems to be the best fit for the tower, the vertical single funnel and the casemated guns along the top of the hull.

[geofflambert]

From page 237 of "Sea of Thunder":

from a lookouts memoir, a Mr. Kosaku Koitabashi: "Rain squalls swept in, "but it didn't seem like the tropics," remembered Koitabashi. "It was foggy. There was no visibility." When a dark shape loomed up behind the Yamato, Koitabashi and the other lookouts cried out a warning. The battleship Kongo came surging out of the murk, nearly staving in the Yamato's stern. The two behemoths swung apart at the last moment. The squalls passed and the night cleared as the fleet entered the empty Philippine Sea at twenty minutes past midnight on the morning of October 25."

From page 236 of "Sea of Thunder":

"About a half-hour before midnight, a dive-bomber off the Independence, piloted by Lt. Phelps flew high above the narrow western entrance of the San Bernardino Strait. There, in solemn single-file procession, were more than a dozen Japanese warships, including four battleships. Lieutenant Phelps could see the ships playing their searchlights off the high cliffs at the entrance of the strait as the column crept through the narrow waters. It was the last look at Kurita's fleet that Phelps, or any American pilot, would get that night."

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

This picture is in the book "Battle of Surigao Strait" by Anthony Tully:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/Surigao/Ba ... Strait.htm

Other online discussions contend that this was either Fuso or Yamashiro. Yet others claim it was either a Kongo class or even some Japanese CA. I've yet to see original primary source material rather than online conjecture.

Many authors take a photo they have found and include it in their books without checking its provenance. In this case, Fuso and Yamashiro are absolutely ruled out by their tall, convoluted superstructures, unlike the stocky tower in the picture. Hiei and Kirishima had fairly clean towers but Nagato seems to be the best fit for the tower, the vertical single funnel and the casemated guns along the top of the hull.

Those pagodas must have made them top-heavy. Any known instances of capsizing and/or excessive rolling?

[Buckrock]

If an author with the reputation of Tully has put the photo in his book on Surigao Strait, it's a fair bet it is likely from the night of that action.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

This picture is in the book "Battle of Surigao Strait" by Anthony Tully:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/Surigao/Ba ... Strait.htm

Other online discussions contend that this was either Fuso or Yamashiro. Yet others claim it was either a Kongo class or even some Japanese CA. I've yet to see original primary source material rather than online conjecture.

Many authors take a photo they have found and include it in their books without checking its provenance. In this case, Fuso and Yamashiro are absolutely ruled out by their tall, convoluted superstructures, unlike the stocky tower in the picture. Hiei and Kirishima had fairly clean towers but Nagato seems to be the best fit for the tower, the vertical single funnel and the casemated guns along the top of the hull.

Those pagodas must have made them top-heavy. Any known instances of capsizing and/or excessive rolling?

They were considered very top heavy and both Fuso and Yamashiro capsized quickly after torpedo hits induced a list. IIRC the IJN was forced to take measures to reduce topside weight in a number of their ship classes in the late 1930s. They had tried to cram too much armament on their decks and suffered for seaworthiness.

BB Fuso:

[BBfanboy]

BB Kongo:

[BBfanboy]

BB Nagato:

[geofflambert]

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[Grfin Zeppelin]

Its obviously the Kaga.

[btd64]

It's the IJN Good Ship Lollipop.[:D]....GP

[geofflambert]

[:D]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Its obviously the Kaga.

The best analysis by far. [&o]

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

[:D]

That is not a ship's beacon it is Kaigun-shōi(Ensign) Yamaguchi, he never got the word that 2300 hr "Inspection Formation" was cancelled.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Its obviously the Kaga.

The best analysis by far. [&o]

warspite1

+1

Did anyone actually see her sink after Midway? No I don't think so....

The Japanese spent some time turning BB into CV and CV hybrids. Well they also made the change in the opposite direction. When Kaga limped home in June 1942 she was altered into her original, one funnel BB design. FACT.