Other Matrix War Games

[BKL]

....just wondering if anyone has played Advanced Tactics Gold or The Operational Art of War 3 and have any opinion, relative to Command? I've had Command for years and enjoy it; just wondering about other games and other people's experiences with wargames in general.

[OllyFox80]

Loving command I recently went looking for other deep wargames and my recommendation would be garry gibleys war in the east / west. Also keep an eye out for the new upcoming operational art of war game

[ultradave]

ORIGINAL: OllyFox80

Loving command I recently went looking for other deep wargames and my recommendation would be garry gibleys war in the east / west. Also keep an eye out for the new upcoming operational art of war game

Yup. They are deep with big learning curves, amazing amount of detail behind the scenes. I haven't played WitE since DOS days (so I'm out of touch with the newer versions), but have WitW and the Tunisia expansion. Have played a few campaigns both against the AI and PBEM (which is really a great challenge). Against the AI you'll want to play as Allies in a campaign since Germany is always on defense. Some shorter scenarios (Bulge, Kasserine, etc) are good with either side. Saying that, I have played as Germany against an Allied invasion starting at D-Day and won by greatly holding up the Allies compared to real life. And that was a fun challenge.

These are operational/strategic games so a completely different thing.

[kevinkins]

I was part of the early Advanced Tactics community. If a player today likes the depth of operations Command brings with no wiz bang graphics, then Advanced Tactics is a perfectly good option for war game enjoyment. Both are really serious. I play Command now more because of the way it can sim today's geopolitical environment and technology. Perhaps think of Advanced Tactics as Command for ground warfare. Not the perfect analogy - but close enough to make a purchasing decision on.

Kevin

[ultradave]

Also, if you like Northern Inferno and Northern Fury scenarios, "Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm" simulates ground campaigns in a WW3 in Europe doing the late Cold War. I like it a lot, but I may be biased in that it was what I trained for while in the Army, when not on other minor side adventures.

You will find yourself wondering where all those Hinds are coming from in the same way that in Command, you find yourself wondering how many Bears with supersonic ASM's the Russians can possibly have.

[thewood1]

The OP already has Command. He's looking for suggestions on other Matrix games.

[HalfLifeExpert]

I'm very interested in the upcoming Armored Brigade game, which is an improved and expanded version of the original freeware version.

[ultradave]

ORIGINAL: thewood1

The OP already has Command. He's looking for suggestions on other Matrix games.

Yes I know. Flashpoint is another Matrix game, correct?

[OldSarge]

Flashpoint is an excellent cold war 'what if' game. Highly recommend if you're into hypothetical cold war games.

WITE just recently received a new update, it is a monster game if you play the full campaign! Fortunately, there are a number of smaller scenarios with the game, as well as DLCs that make the game approachable. I also have WITW which is another of the large games the Grigsby is noted for.

Pike & Shot is a game set back in the era of, well, pike & shot. P & S Campaigns is very easy to pick up and play and I have spent many hours with it. The battles are relatively small and many can be played in an evening.

There are a bunch of others, but without knowing what you're looking for, or what interests you I'll hold off.

[thewood1]

My comment was for Kevinkin. He didn't read the original post. Then he edited his response. Then on top of that, you ninja-posted me.

[kevinkins]

I read the original post and made a simple mistake and corrected it. Please go away, like last year. You Dick.

[thewood1]

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

I read the original post and made a simple mistake and corrected it. Please go away, like last year. You Dick.

What...I just pointed out my response was to your mistake. Are really that sensitive that when someone points out a mistake you get all hurt and personal?

I'll quote it this time so you don't go back and change it without some documentation...

Just so anyone reading this knows what is going on, Kevinkin went on about how great a game Command is and was really selling it hard. I just pointed out that is not what the OP was asking.

[kevinkins]

You are a Dick ... and we ALL know it here ... and frankly ... you know it too. Please go away. Please. You are ruining this forum.

[thewood1]

There are personal attacks and then there are personal attacks for no reason. I'll give you the day to think about what exactly I did to somehow really set you off. This is the second or third thread I have seen you wreck for what appears to be no reason.

I am traveling most of the day tomorrow and since you seem to like going back and editing your posts to hide simple mistakes, you can go back and remove the personal attacks. Otherwise, let's you and I go to the principle's office and see what they think. If you could either remove the personal attack or explain in great detail exactly what I did, that would be much appreciated.

You have a habit of jumping into threads, making nonsensical comments, stating the blindingly obvious, accusing people of stealing ideas, scenarios, whatever...I have seen you completely derail threads because you don't read posts all through...just like this one. You seem incredibly sensitive to what people post. When you get mad, for unfathomable reasons, your response is, "you're a Dick". Note I capitalized it like you did. Again, I'll ask, are you mad I pointed out your mistake? Should I not have said anything. I mean...you completely missed the point of the OP. He was VERY explicit in what he was looking for. You went on for a couple paragraphs not contributing anything. I just pointed out you missed the point of the OP. Is it really that bad?

[thewood1]

btw, I am willing to discuss this over PM. I really don't want you to embarrass yourself any further. Feel free to PM me and not take this thread any further down the drain.

[kevinkins]

Your war gaming reputation across the internet over the years is so horrible, I just figured I'd call you out now. It has to stop dude. This is not about a single thread like this one. It's about a constant nastiest over a decade or more. We are trying to have fun. The wood1 could care less and makes us all miserable in the process.

Kevin

[Kaldadarnes]

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

I was part of the early Advanced Tactics community. If a player today likes the depth of operations Command brings with no wiz bang graphics, then Advanced Tactics is a perfectly good option for war game enjoyment. Both are really serious. I play Command now more because of the way it can sim today's geopolitical environment and technology. Perhaps think of Advanced Tactics as Command for ground warfare. Not the perfect analogy - but close enough to make a purchasing decision on.

Kevin

Yeah: +1 to this. I played a lot of advanced tactics - was probably my number one game up until i picked up command. It's a good sand boxy game hex and counter game, AI's not great but gives a fun challenge.

[BKL]

I know this isn’t a Matrix game, but wondering if anyone has played Command Ops 2 and any thoughts? Seems like a CMANO like game for land.

[thewood1]

So I guess the personal attack will remain...OK.

btw, I'm not the one who went all off on this I very simply and succinctly pointed out that you answered the wrong question because you didn't read the post. You have somehow taken that as a personal insult. I would recommend growing a slightly thicker skin or stop reading the internet.

[Raptorx7_slith]

Jesus christ give it up.

Can we get a moderator to do something about the constant bickering with certain users?