Combat results not very credible

[MrLongleg]

Just finished the Kharkov 1942 scenario against AI. I noticed the Russian tank losses are quite low, even when attacking against dozen's of 88mm guns, they lose 2 or 3 tanks. Otoh I saw a Russian infantry division with hardly any AT capability attack a German Panzer regiment (fully resupplied and rested) in clear terrain with good weather and retreat the Panzer regiment with more than a dozen tanks lost. What am I missing here?

[Meyer1]

In order to understand what happened, or to confirm some game flaw I guess more details are needed. Checking the toawlog.txt, posting a save, etc.

[Oberst_Klink]

Ja. And are you playing Kharkov '42/2nd Battle of Kharkov? Regarding the inner works/under the hood, check out my tutorials. I am sure Meyer1 can endorse me (somehow).
Superior weapons are fine, but their success depends on the guys who crew them, their state of readiness and...well, the weather, and more.

Klink, Oberst

[MrLongleg]

It was Kharkov 42. The most puzzling result was man with rifles displacing a fresh rested and full supplied tank regiment in clear terrain and good weather. I will have a look at the tutorials though - thanks for providing them.

[gbaby]

There are so many things that explain results like that, as others have already referenced. There is no clue what your actual situation is. Did you get attacked with a flank attack? Did you note that the Russians use artillery and/or air resources? Were you low on readiness, supplies, or low proficiency? The russians you attacked, did you flank, have artillery/air, have good status, and so on. Did the planner report poor or good results to be expected? What was the ratio it reported? Of course I've had good results when it reported bad because of gut feelings, and poor when it reported good due to randomness, but in most cases its close to the mark. Experience counts more though.

It goes on and on. Yes, there is some randomness, but overall, good strategy/tactics with an eye on all your forces will give results expected. At least, from my experience. Don't trust type of equipment to see you to success, trust combined arms with all your units working together. This is an operational game, not tactical. Of course, you already know that and I'm just being preachy. Sorry, I'll blame senility.

[Oberst_Klink]

ORIGINAL: MrLongleg

It was Kharkov 42. The most puzzling result was man with rifles displacing a fresh rested and full supplied tank regiment in clear terrain and good weather. I will have a look at the tutorials though - thanks for providing them.

Oh, can you perhaps provide the .SAL (the save) file? We'll have a look, promised.

Klink, Oberst

[MrLongleg]

I finished the campaign, so I do not have a save of that turn. Anyway, thanks for your help. Next time I see something strange I will provide more info.

[Oberst_Klink]

Aw'roite. Well, you still for 10hrs until midnight to walk thru the Tutorial 'XX series; as for me... well, a few beers and maybe a C-SPAN recording about Braxton Bragg... like this.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?309851-1/ ... ones-river

Oops! Even a most recent one...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?429295-3/ ... xton-bragg

Klink, Oberst

[Oberst_Klink]

Another goodie from the master and creator of the original TOAW series; behold his name - Norm!

http://normkoger.com/truth.html

Klink, Oberst