NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer

[Orm]

Not sure that I expressed myself right regarding the convoy lines.

However, I do suspect that getting all the resources that is needed to get the CW and French factories going will be hard to accomplish. And, IMHO, the French resources has priority. Otherwise it wasn't much point in sending CW resources to France if that is going to halt French resources instead.

[Orm]

Game 4:

Should I do the first part? Or do you prefer to begin and I take over at land movement?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

You can do first part.

Germany combined.

Naval move
3 CPs from Königsberg to Baltic Sea.

Rail move
HQ von Bock to 51,32 (east of Antwerp).

Ground strike
Bf110 as front bomber and He111 ground strikes hex 52,31 (west of Brussels), escorted by Bf109 E-2 from hex 51,33.
Planes land
Bf109 to Antwerp
Bf110 to Rotterdam
He111 to Liege

I do German land moves and awesome attack [;)]

[Orm]

Will that naval move bring the total CPs in the Baltic Sea to 4 or more? If not, then it might be a good idea to do so, if at all possible. Just to be prepared if Finland decide to support the true, and noble, fight for freedom.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Baltic Sea is empty at the moment. Germany has only 3 CPs in that port. There is one more CP left, but in different port. So we need to send that last CP later.

Germany will deploy one fighter to guard CPs from long range naval bomber. If I lose any of them, it takes quite a long time to get new ones.

[Orm]

Maybe you should convince Finland to contribute their CPs? [;)]

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Oh right... [:D]

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Can I proceed with Nordic 1 instructions?

Tonight I don't have time and tomorrow night I have a party. So I plan to do it on Saturday.

[Orm]

End of turn? Sure.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Nord 1

France suggest that the trade to France is somewhat reduced.

I think we should send BPs to France to make France strong. The longer Germany fights in France, the longer USSR is safe.

And I actually would like to build AMPH with CW. Then invade to Northern Denmark after Germany has moved most of their units where ever they are going next. What do you think about this?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Nord 1

China production

I build MTN and CAV div now to make sure Com China can defend against Japan. I think we can build for Nationalists MOT and INF HQ in near future.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Nord 1

And I actually would like to build AMPH with CW. Then invade to Northern Denmark after Germany has moved most of their units where ever they are going next. What do you think about this?

How about if I build AMPH now? That gives us possibility to do things and makes Axis think what we are up to...

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Nord 1

And I actually would like to build AMPH with CW. Then invade to Northern Denmark after Germany has moved most of their units where ever they are going next. What do you think about this?

How about if I build AMPH now? That gives us possibility to do things and makes Axis think what we are up to...

I think that AMPH should wait. That, in my humble opinion, is a luxury item. Lets wait with those until we are pretty sure what the next German target is. I suggest lots of fighters to have air superiority, and some land units to begin garrison far away places. And have some reserves if disaster happens in France. Then, if you still feel rich, you can always build the NAV4 or a LND4. Both are annoying to the German player.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Nord 1

And I actually would like to build AMPH with CW. Then invade to Northern Denmark after Germany has moved most of their units where ever they are going next. What do you think about this?

How about if I build AMPH now? That gives us possibility to do things and makes Axis think what we are up to...

I think that AMPH should wait. That, in my humble opinion, is a luxury item. Lets wait with those until we are pretty sure what the next German target is. I suggest lots of fighters to have air superiority, and some land units to begin garrison far away places. And have some reserves if disaster happens in France. Then, if you still feel rich, you can always build the NAV4 or a LND4. Both are annoying to the German player.

Kriegmarine surface ships mostly destroyed or damaged, that’s why I think I don’t have to invest RN that much early in game and can afford to build AMPH. I was thinking about NAV4, but I would like to do something different. Taking northern Denmark would allow us to attack Baltic Sea convoys.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Nordic 1

Question about resource lending: Can US send Philippines resource to China through Hanoi or Burma road?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

And another one: If USA is not in war, can they use CW convoy line to send resources to CW? Or can US resource go to Canada and Canadian resources to UK?

[rkr1958]

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

And another one: If USA is not in war, can they use CW convoy line to send resources to CW?

I believe that's the only way resources and build points can get from a neutral US to another major power, with the exception of China. Applicable quotes from the "Rules as Coded",


15. Resources to Western Allies – The U.S. can give up to 5 resources per turn each to the Commonwealth and France in future turns (unlimited while the U.S.A. is at war with Germany). U.S. convoy points can’t be used to transport these resources while the U.S. is a neutral major power.

19. Resources to USSR – The US, CW and/or France can give or receive 1 resource each per turn to or from the USSR in future turns even if the USSR is neutral (5 each per turn while Germany and the USSR are at war and unlimited while the U.S. is also at war with Germany). U.S. convoy points can’t be used to transport these resources while the U.S. is a neutral major power.

27. Lend-Lease to Western Allies – The U.S. can give up to 5 build points a turn (see 14.6.4) to each of the Commonwealth and France in future turns (unlimited while the U.S.A. is at war with Germany). U.S. convoy points can’t be used to transport these build points while the U.S. is a neutral major power. You can only choose this option if you have already chosen entry option 15.

30. Lend lease to USSR – The US, CW and/or France can give or receive 1 build point each per turn to or from the USSR in future turns even if the USSR is neutral (5 each per turn while Germany and the USSR are at war and unlimited while the U.S. is also at war with Germany). U.S. convoy points can’t be used to transport these build points while the U.S. is a neutral major power. You can only choose this option if you have already chosen entry option 19. See additional option below.

Two exceptiona where a neutral US CP's can be used.

9. Resources to China – Allied major powers can’t give resources to China until you choose this entry option. In future turns, each major power can give up to 5 resources a turn (no limit once that major power is at war with Japan). The U.S. can use its convoy points to transport resources to China from the USA. Clarification: The U.S. can lend-lease the Philippine resource to China (if it can be transported there).
Choosing this entry option opens the Burma Road. It then counts as a railway for moving resources and build points (only) into China (not out). The scenario information (see RAW 24.0) will tell you whether the Burma Road starts the game open or closed.

17. Lend-Lease to China – Each Allied major power can give up to 5 build points a turn to China (see 13.6.4). The U.S. can use its convoy points to transport build points to China from the USA. This entry option can only be chosen if you have already chosen entry option 9.

[brian brian]

It is good to build an AMPH for the CW, many players do this on the first turn even, to get ready to prepare some sort of peripheral distraction for the Axis when Barbarossa launches. But with an 8 turn process, I wouldn't worry about exactly what to do with it for quite a while yet.

[Orm]

I am aware that many CW players build the AMPH early on. And I have a hard time grasping the need for it. Maybe because I am to defensive with CW, or to cautious. I rather spend those BPs on sending units to Singapore, and Malaya, and maybe even put a fort in Singapore. And have naval bombers protecting most sea areas against the submarine threat. Therefore I build TRS early and AMPH late. I definitely wait with AMPHs until I see if Germany plan to go for USSR in '41.

If you want to build the AMPH then do so. Always interesting to see how others play.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Let's try how it goes. When it arrives in 1941, CW gets also their first marine unit. Together MAR and INF/MIL can attack somewhere light defended place to cause distraction.