FTR Bombers cannot fly missions

[TeaLeaf]

M/A '41, Germany and Italy attack Spain (surprise impulse).

During the land combat, the German FTR Bombers cannot fly ground support.
When a FTR is selected and made a bomber, it becomes unselectable, bombing the hex it starts in (iow: its own units). Also, this cannot be undone.

Maybe this is a bug that only occurs during the surprise impulse, I don't know.
In this situation I am going to work around it by manually set the affected combat dice rolls, increasing them with the appropriate +drm that should have been applied.

[Centuur]

I can't recreate this. All FTR's could fly as bombers to the hexes under attack...

[davidachamberlain]

ORIGINAL: TeaLeaf

M/A '41, Germany and Italy attack Spain (surprise impulse).

During the land combat, the German FTR Bombers cannot fly ground support.
When a FTR is selected and made a bomber, it becomes unselectable, bombing the hex it starts in (iow: its own units). Also, this cannot be undone.

Maybe this is a bug that only occurs during the surprise impulse, I don't know.
In this situation I am going to work around it by manually set the affected combat dice rolls, increasing them with the appropriate +drm that should have been applied.

You should try and undo (maybe with the Undo All).

I have found a few times that after I did the change that it took the location as where the bombing was to occur. After the Undo All, I was able to do it without a problem. I think it is some glitch.

Dave

[TeaLeaf]

I cannot undo, undo all, and certainly not fly FTR-bombers.

Possibly a difference of versions; I am still using 2.7.4.
Last time I checked there still was an error reported with it, but I see that has been uodated now . Okay, patching game and retry.

BRB shortly!

[TeaLeaf]

Yeah, that did it!
2.7.5 fixed this. Looks like that CVP-FTR bomber issue also affected LBA FTR bombers?

1. Fixed a newly created bug in calculating supply that in some cases was increasing the time required by approximately times 9.

2. Fixed a hole in the code which was permitting naval units starting at sea to move and end their movement still at sea. This had been possible by passing through a port and picking up cargo in the port.

3. Fixed a problem with carrier air units flying as bombers in a naval air combat not being recognized as part of the air-to-air combat.

4. Fixed a minor problem with having to select a defensive unit twice during Land Combat Resolution in order to get the Shattered and Destroy buttons to appear.

Since that is the only line in the patch notes possibly also affecting FTR bomber roles for LBA -that I can think of.

BTW: looking through that patch notes, is it now possible to move through port and pick up units??? I thought this wasn't possible?

[davidachamberlain]

It still happens to me with 2.7.5, but usually, the undo gets me past it. Now the concern is ghost units on TRS. I usually have to go back to an earlier impulse to get past that one.

Dave

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: TeaLeaf
BTW: looking through that patch notes, is it now possible to move through port and pick up units??? I thought this wasn't possible?

Originally when the game was released it could not be done, but it has been possible since around version 2.2.8.

It is quite tricky to do and I don't remember now exactly how, but the trick has to do with the CTRL key plus selecting the transporting units and the cargo and then selecting the transporting units to move again.

[davidachamberlain]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck
Originally when the game was released it could not be done, but it has been possible since around version 2.2.8.

It is quite tricky to do and I don't remember now exactly how, but the trick has to do with the CTRL key plus selecting the transporting units and the cargo and then selecting the transporting units to move again.

Yes, that is right.

It is just like stopping in a sea area for enemy searches. Move from port to port (through the sea area), click on the port with the unit to Load and then continue on. It costs a lot of movement so you won't get far with any but the most advanced ships later in the game.

Dave

[TeaLeaf]

Great news! I was just doing the CW Naval moves and guess what I'm going to try [:)].

Now the only thing still on my personal wish list, is that stack-swapping: in WiF there is no stacking limit during movement, so you can swap the entire stack in hex A with the entire stack in hex B. Something not possible in MWiF. That's often no problem but there are situations that it causes serious problems to the survival of a Major Power. Most notably in situations where a HQ is part of a stack that needs swapping, or where there is very little room to maneuver, other than hex A and B it self (Gibraltar, for example).