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To be effective against submarines, naval search arcs must extend beyond the 1-pulse movement range of the TF in question. In the combat resolution phase of each pulse, task forces move first, then there is the air phase when the naval search planes fly, which will detect submarines. In the next pulse, TFs will move again and complete this move before search planes fly. Let us take an example where search planes fly 2 hexes in the night pulse for a TF that will move 4 hexes in a pulse. The TF completes its move of four hexes, then search planes fly out 2 hexes. In the next pulse, the TF will move 4 hexes again, 2 hexes beyond the area scouted by the patrols.
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All valid points Gents.

What you don't know is what my preparations were during the first landings against Woleai and the turn previous (except Lowpe will go check now and prove me wrong [:D]). I almost always have my CV's follow a few ASW TF's when moving forward, and set any number to follow as well. I admit to being lazy the turn in question, but there is a whole number of reasons why my forces were disposed the way they were. Everything went off kilter the turn of the first shock attack. I never would have withdrawn my carriers towards Manus and used them to shepherd my BB's to rearm had the attack at least not kept me in the game at Woleai. ASW efforts on my part would have been much stronger. The decision to return to provide support for Woleai was made in a snap decision and by that time my ASW taskforces were redeployed. The smart thing to do was return to Manus and start over.

The reason for the large submarine TF's was to wait and see the Japanese reaction before deploying individually. Another thing, I simply could not end up within 6 hexes of any Japanese position otherwise I was spotted by Japanese air ASW and attacked, or else the Super E's would be dispatched to sink my submarines outright. Remember the mission was to establish a forward air base for future operations. So of course I'm a little thin.

You also have to remember I was severely burnt with losing 50+ SBD's to CAP on ASW patrol. I had my settings set closely so that the AI would not send bomber after bomber to Woleai to be shot down if Erik deployed CAP. Some of the decisions a player makes on settings are based on what he knows the AI may do.

I admit to not taking the time to reset my ASW moving back to Woleai. If you read my comments, it's not so much getting torpedoed that bothered me, my point of contention was why when I do get torpedoed is the damage always so massive. I can accept being weak in the ASW setting for the relevant turn, what does come down to luck is the number of torpedo hits and the damage incurred. I lost this carrier outright to the damage from the hits. As far as I know I had a good Captain, whose to say if whatever checks were made he doesn't avoid all the torpedoes. Even when you do everything right in this game (and I obviously wasn't in this case) that doesn't mean you still won't suffer bad results.

What broke me was the damage, not the fact I was hit in the first place. You also have to factor in that I had lost however many CV's, CVL's and CVE's without beign able to fire a shot back. That stings. I also had great success against Japanese submarines wherever they were committed before. This one turn was a breakdown in my orders and settings. I was punished for it like I was every other time I made a mistake in the game.

Appreciate the comments. Of course there were holes in my settings. Some players have the time to set everything perfectly. Others get caught up in moving the game forward and cut some corners. Like I said, this game punishes every mistake, but sometime the results are based purely on luck. Had this carrier suffered the two torpedo hits and not been danger of sinking outright I would have not said a word. I would have tried to get her back to port and moved on. Again, it was the extent of the damage that put me over the edge. It's all moot though...isn't it. [:D]

Things are still a little raw for me so I don't mean my comments to sound confrontational.
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Indeed, Joseph, I'm privileged to step in for you. This developed very quickly, but already I've sent "my" first turn back to Eric, March 2, 1944.

To be honest, I was worried as to what I'd find. I knew you were frustrated. I expected that you'd have lost enough interest that the Allies might be in a bit of disarray. And even though it might prove a bit uncomfortable to write in an AAR what I found on reviewing the map, I was planning to do so.

I was most surprised on opening the file that the Allies are in fine shape. From a map standpoint, they're a bit behind, having lost China and western Oz and not yet closing on the Empire, as an Allied player wants to do by 1944. But my goodness, the Allied navy, air force, army and merchant marine at in excellent shape. The attention you gave to logistics everywhere is quite evident. Instead of finding a battered and bloodied Allied position from which it might be exceedingly difficult or impossible to have hope, the infrastructure is in place.

I'll post in detail in an AAR when I start in a day or two. I'll note changes that I make and why. But I'll make it clear that I am "inheriting" very good work. You did a fine job, despite the frustrating air war and those eight-hex strikes.

Thank you Dan. Coming from a person and player of your calibre that means a lot. I have immense respect for players such as yourself and all the others (I won't try naming them all as to not leave anyone out) who play this game so well.
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Erik's a great person and he's got a better temperament then I do. I envy that. He wants to finish the game so I hope someone will step up and take over for me. At least I can say I handled some aspects of this game well. Your aircraft pools, supply and fuel are looking good despite being down more CV's then you should be. A better player than me will have this turned around in no time I'm sure.


I do not know your personal situation, but I think that you are being far too hard on yourself in your assessment of your performance in this game (and perhaps in life as well). You stepped into a game, mid-way through, in which much of the most important work for the allies had not been done properly. Under these circumstances, you were not going to be able to have the same sort of success that someone would who had been managing the allies with strategic planning for long-term objectives in mind from Dec. 7th 1941. Moreover, you were playing a good opponent.

I think one lesson that you can take away from this, if you wish, is that your worth is not determined by measuring yourself against other people. Everyone's circumstances are different and every situation is different. You picked up a bad hand in this game and played it pretty well. Even Canoerebel confirms this. Maybe this applies to your life as well. Some people always seem to be fortunate, but fortune, by its very nature, is combination of place, circumstance, and coincidence. The best that we can do is manage with what we have been dealt. In this, I think you did well in this game, and I sincerely hope for the best in your life as well. Please do not be a stranger to the forums.
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Erik changed his mind and offered to continue if I wanted and I really want to continue...but. The way this game is playing out is not enjoyable for me. Losing isn't fun and even when I don't make a mistake I still lose. I can't take it anymore. I took over a really crappy situation, I've suffered some pretty tough reversals in this one and they just keep coming. Sadly this game is turning into a metaphor for how crappy my life is right now and has been for some time. I look forward to coming home, relaxing and losing myself in setting my orders, but then I watch the replay and it just keeps going wrong. I can handle the little things, but the constant negative game changing events on my side whenever my carriers are involved isn't fun anymore. I wish I was better at handling the emotions this game instills, but I'm incapable of that right now. These aren't just pixels to me, they represent turning things around in my life and that is sad, because this game is unforgiving and I just set myself up for constant disappointment playing it. I have enough of that in my real life and I wish this game didn't constantly add to it.

SqzMyLemon,

It was my honor to face you in our PBEM a couple years ago. To this day, I'm embarrassed about my need to back away from the game due to RL issues as well as some burnout. You handled that graciously and I am grateful about the aplomb you showed then in allowing my graceful exit from the game.

For what it's worth, I found you to be a thoughtful and diligent opponent. You had a singular ability-almost a gift-for logistics and preparation. When playing the Allies, I know you were preparing yourself for an excellent mid-late game position and switch to offense. When playing the Japanese, your efforts and understanding of logistics ensured your existence in the mid-late game and strength in field.

I did find that, in our game and others, you were very hard on yourself. Granted, you had some tough luck (sinking Saratoga with a single TT hit for example [:D]) at times, but you really seemed to beat yourself up when things went pear shaped. I wish you wouldn't do that.

You are a gifted and noble partner and player. You are an intelligent and kind person. You are a 'good man'. I am very sorry to hear about all of the real life issues you are experiencing and hope that they resolve soon for your sake. Hang in there dude.

Please visit us here when you feel up to it. In spite of the fact that you are Canadian [;)], your counsel and presence is always welcome as far as I am concerned. Take some time off, as I did.

Come back when you get the itch again. Oh, you'll get it. I'd bet on it.
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Just an update on life and WitpAE.

I had a chance to talk with Erik recently and wish we had done so years ago. We discussed the game briefly, but didn't go into any great detail about our matchup. It was nice to discuss a few things including what I had intended to have done, had we continued our game. We also talked a little about models. I have a number of kits I'm hoping he'll take off my hands [:D]. I think we talked for roughly 30-45 minutes in total. We hope to have a chance to have another conversation soon. I enjoyed our conversation and it only reinforced how I feel about Erik.

I understand Dan's none to happy with my ship naming, so it gave me a chance to explain to Erik my theme of action heros and the inspiration for CV Death From Above [:D]. Sorry Dan, I take no responsibility for Emperor Norton though, that was pure Torsten. I had fun with the naming so Dan will just have to deal.

Erik suggested I post some more personal information and I've been hesitant to do so. In the end I decided to as I've talked with a number of people on the forum for years, had a chance to meet one in person and consider the community one of the best there is online. I consider some people here my friends. Well enough pre-amble...here goes nothing...

Some of you know from previous posts in my AAR how stressful things have been for me personally, it turns out I've another problem to deal with. Long story short, I've been diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer and the prognosis is not good. I'm only 49, but the tumour is in the worst possible location and that currently makes me inoperable. I've undergone one biopsy so far to determine the pathology and treatment options, but sadly the first results indicate they did not get good samples and I will have to repeat the biopsy. I'm still waiting for news on when the second biopsy will happen. My treatment options totally depend on the pathology. The current hope is that once I begin treatment, chemo or radiation will reduce the tumour and allow surgery to be undertaken. If I don't respond to treatment and surgery is not an option, the news is dire. I will have no idea on the amount of time I have left, if that is the case. Needless to say I'm scared and being realistic I need to get my affairs in order. I hope that those of you I have talked with/met, played against and consider friends will reach out and say hello. It would be nice to talk again. I value your friendship, support and a chance for distraction from the life changing event I'm going through. Feel free to PM and we can discuss catching up somehow.

I feel awkward writing this, but then again what do I have to lose by reaching out [:D].
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Oh my goodness

Life is a big gift.


Thank you for having posted.

I'm very sorry

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Hey, Joseph, I'm glad you dropped in, even though you saddled me a few horrendous CV names. You are fortunate the old AE Kangaroo Court is no longer in session, else you'd have been exiled to Athabasca.

That's shocking news about the possibility you have cancer. I hope things take a turn for the better very quickly, mainly that you'll get some truly good news from the biopsy. I'll be pulling for you. I know the entire community will.

Best wishes!





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... what do I have to lose by reaching out [:D].

Nothing.
But you chance to gain the prayers of others. Maybe there is a mo-jo Mother Theresa part time war gamer with a direct line to the All-Being that could help adjust some critical die roles coming your way.

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What bad with such names???


Death from Above in particular, is the best
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Just an update on life and WitpAE.

I had a chance to talk with Erik recently and wish we had done so years ago. We discussed the game briefly, but didn't go into any great detail about our matchup. It was nice to discuss a few things including what I had intended to have done, had we continued our game. We also talked a little about models. I have a number of kits I'm hoping he'll take off my hands [:D]. I think we talked for roughly 30-45 minutes in total. We hope to have a chance to have another conversation soon. I enjoyed our conversation and it only reinforced how I feel about Erik.

I understand Dan's none to happy with my ship naming, so it gave me a chance to explain to Erik my theme of action heros and the inspiration for CV Death From Above [:D]. Sorry Dan, I take no responsibility for Emperor Norton though, that was pure Torsten. I had fun with the naming so Dan will just have to deal.

Erik suggested I post some more personal information and I've been hesitant to do so. In the end I decided to as I've talked with a number of people on the forum for years, had a chance to meet one in person and consider the community one of the best there is online. I consider some people here my friends. Well enough pre-amble...here goes nothing...

Some of you know from previous posts in my AAR how stressful things have been for me personally, it turns out I've another problem to deal with. Long story short, I've been diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer and the prognosis is not good. I'm only 49, but the tumour is in the worst possible location and that currently makes me inoperable. I've undergone one biopsy so far to determine the pathology and treatment options, but sadly the first results indicate they did not get good samples and I will have to repeat the biopsy. I'm still waiting for news on when the second biopsy will happen. My treatment options totally depend on the pathology. The current hope is that once I begin treatment, chemo or radiation will reduce the tumour and allow surgery to be undertaken. If I don't respond to treatment and surgery is not an option, the news is dire. I will have no idea on the amount of time I have left, if that is the case. Needless to say I'm scared and being realistic I need to get my affairs in order. I hope that those of you I have talked with/met, played against and consider friends will reach out and say hello. It would be nice to talk again. I value your friendship, support and a chance for distraction from the life changing event I'm going through. Feel free to PM and we can discuss catching up somehow.

I feel awkward writing this, but then again what do I have to lose by reaching out [:D].

It's ok to be scared. Just don't be TOO scared. I went through non-hodgkins 2 decades ago. Through the grace of God, and with blind luck and some really good friends (I married one of them [;)] ) I'm still here. There have been HUGE advancements in treatments in the last decade. It is not just a platitude to say positive mental attitude is a large part of the fight. Stay strong, stay determined, stay brave, and kick that sucker. Let me know if I can help, your only 20 hours away [8D]
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Sorry for that awful news. Hang on to every minute. Stay with us here, so many of us are without direct contact with you.
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Just an update on life and WitpAE.

I had a chance to talk with Erik recently and wish we had done so years ago. We discussed the game briefly, but didn't go into any great detail about our matchup. It was nice to discuss a few things including what I had intended to have done, had we continued our game. We also talked a little about models. I have a number of kits I'm hoping he'll take off my hands [:D]. I think we talked for roughly 30-45 minutes in total. We hope to have a chance to have another conversation soon. I enjoyed our conversation and it only reinforced how I feel about Erik.

I understand Dan's none to happy with my ship naming, so it gave me a chance to explain to Erik my theme of action heros and the inspiration for CV Death From Above [:D]. Sorry Dan, I take no responsibility for Emperor Norton though, that was pure Torsten. I had fun with the naming so Dan will just have to deal.

Erik suggested I post some more personal information and I've been hesitant to do so. In the end I decided to as I've talked with a number of people on the forum for years, had a chance to meet one in person and consider the community one of the best there is online. I consider some people here my friends. Well enough pre-amble...here goes nothing...

Some of you know from previous posts in my AAR how stressful things have been for me personally, it turns out I've another problem to deal with. Long story short, I've been diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer and the prognosis is not good. I'm only 49, but the tumour is in the worst possible location and that currently makes me inoperable. I've undergone one biopsy so far to determine the pathology and treatment options, but sadly the first results indicate they did not get good samples and I will have to repeat the biopsy. I'm still waiting for news on when the second biopsy will happen. My treatment options totally depend on the pathology. The current hope is that once I begin treatment, chemo or radiation will reduce the tumour and allow surgery to be undertaken. If I don't respond to treatment and surgery is not an option, the news is dire. I will have no idea on the amount of time I have left, if that is the case. Needless to say I'm scared and being realistic I need to get my affairs in order. I hope that those of you I have talked with/met, played against and consider friends will reach out and say hello. It would be nice to talk again. I value your friendship, support and a chance for distraction from the life changing event I'm going through. Feel free to PM and we can discuss catching up somehow.

I feel awkward writing this, but then again what do I have to lose by reaching out [:D].

It was really good to catch up and have a real chat. Joe and I have always gotten along on the forum and it just confirmed that. Long overdue, and just sorry it has to be due to this news.

I hope to talk soon again and in the meantime, as Levicus says above, stay as positive as you can and live every day!
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Awful news.

Goes without saying that I hope the biopsy results are more positive and there is something that they can do.
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I've been off the forum a couple of days and just read this news. The very best of luck to you Joseph ! I hope that the news from your 2nd biopsy is favorable.
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You will be in my prayers and hopefully those of others as well.
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Oh, my friend, I am so sorry. You are in my thoughts and prayers!
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Oh Joseph,

Such bad news. I'm so sorry to hear it. I truly hope the prognosis isn't as dire as the diagnosis-as Pancreatic cancer is amongst the worst of the lousy bunch. With all my heart, I hope you beat this thing.

I'm too sad right now, but will PM you later. I'd like to exchange phone numbers again too, if you're up to a call.

Please keep us updated.
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Thank you all for your kind words, thoughts and prayers. I can't express how much they mean to me right now.

It's Sunday night as I write this and I expect to hear word any day on when the next Endoscopy is booked. I had some blood work done last Friday to check for cancer markers, but don't know any results as yet.

I had some long time friends drop by today. We grew up together on the same block and have known each other for 40+ years. We actually played a game of Risk while we chatted, just like old times.

I'll try to update when I can. I think once the biopsy is done and treatment options are discussed it will be busy times ahead as I take this head on. My spirits are high, but I am so tired from the lack of sleep. I hope once things get moving we can reassess my pain management during treatment to allow me to finally get some sleep. I'm just exhausted getting only an hour or two daily.

Thank you all again. The best online community and some of the nicest people out there.

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Just returned from vacation to discover this terrible news.
Cancer is an insidious beast that robbed me of my brother at the age of 51.
You're nearly the same age as he and far too young to be having to deal with this monster.
I'll keep you in my prayers Joseph.
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