The Accidental War Obvert vs Lowpe

[paullus99]

Maybe they forgot to plug them in?

Did you try turning them off & turning them back on again?

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Interesting to note that there are three Army radar sets present, and the warning is 1 minute.[:(]

Yeah, some of those early sets are only 20% or 30% ... so even with 3 you are still well short of 100%. BUT, even 1 is better than none.
[8D]

[Lowpe]

May 21, 1942

Oscars do a great job of sweeping the Migs from the sky....allowing a free pass over the 111th Tank Division.

[Lowpe]

So, the formula for beating Migs is to outnumber them 4-1, engage at equal altitude while the Migs are flying LRCAP.

Look at the warning time...there is only the 111th Tank Division there.

[Lowpe]

Some Betties strike...ABDA fleet looking to bombard and close this airfield. I suspect with support of the Deathstar...perhaps?

[Lowpe]

A ship I never saw before...oops, never mind, it is a yard mine sweeper.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: paullus99

Maybe they forgot to plug them in?

Did you try turning them off & turning them back on again?

The operators lost their glasses?[:)]

[Lowpe]

Look at all the AFVs in the 111th Tank Division. Once upon a time I looked at their TOE, and promptly blocked it from my memory lest I lose sleep.[;)]

I need to look at them as VP on the tread, so to speak.[:)]

[durnedwolf]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

So, the formula for beating Migs is to outnumber them 4-1, engage at equal altitude while the Migs are flying LRCAP.

Look at the warning time...there is only the 111th Tank Division there.

4:1 odds will always favor you . Your Oscar probably has a much better maneuverability rating than the Mig at 15k too.

[Lowpe]

Tojo IIa next month start at 100 planes per month.

The highest repaired size 30 r&d facility for each fighter:

Jack: 16
George: 12
Frank A: 10
Sam: 7
Randy FB: 10
Frances NF: 8
Nick D: 11
Irving S: 8
Grace: 4

The white elephant: Kikka - 6. When I started the game I was looking to develop kamikazes and play mid to deep with air r&d. Soviet activation changed everything, but I couldn't get rid of my Kikka r&d. It is pointless, I will never see them if Allies pursue an Allied strategic bombing campaign from Manchuko and China.

[Lowpe]

May 22nd, 1942

Allied Navy, sans Deathstar is concentrated at Singers. Bombarding everywhere in the vicinity.

Despite the bombardments, the IJA Artillery is holding its own, although ABDA is reinforcing north of Singers. Dangerous game here...

[Lowpe]

Air losses...

Night bombing takes an ominous turn as the Allies drop down to 2K to 5K, mostly 2K. Good news in that some of the 20mm AA guns open up, but they did destroy several Oscars at Harbin. NF and AA protected Magwe's production....but I fear a move against the airfields at night rather than the oil. A concentrated low level night bombing campaign against the planes is indefensible almost...especially with 4E.

Soviet AA is so potent and numerous I can't return the favor at any protected base.

[Lowpe]

Manchuko

[ny59giants]

Best item the Russians got through American "Lend Lease" program was the "deuce and half" truck, IMO. You don't see it now, but you will later in the war when his TO&Es are upgraded.

[Bif1961]

Even though not shown in this game directly, I believe the best thing the Russians got through lend-lease was almost two thousand locomotives In total, 92.7% of the wartime production of railroad equipment by the USSR was supplied by Lend-Lease, including 1,911 locomotives and 11,225 rail-cars which augmented the existing prewar stocks of at least 20,000 locomotives and half a million rail-cars. That allowed them to switch over almost all their locomotive production to building tanks and we know how many T-34s they built. lend lease to Russia was thousands of types of items and millions of them delivered. These are according to released Russian figures and American figures do not include more than 1/3rd that went sent outside of the lend lease law. The total of what was publically admitted was Total 9,477,666,000 items Note: the figure of $11 billion includes services as well as goods furnished. So it is fair to say without lend lease Russia may not have survived and without Russia we would not have won the war. Just think what would have happened if the Russians had 18,000 fewer aircraft, 12,000 fewer tanks and 470,000 non-armored vehicles, these were directly shipped to Russia not counting what that allowed Russia to build because they were given them and almost every item needed and some they didn't even have.It is estimated that lend lease represented between 10-15% of Russian equipment but that does not include the vast quantities of material and food stuffs provided. This allowed the Russians to concentrate of fewer items to produce and most of that direct fighting material, like tanks planes and munitions. So them impact of lend lease can not be estimated in just 10-15% of what they had total in any category but what it allowed them to produce themselves because they were freed from having to produce what was given to them.If viewed that way, which is the more accurate value it would be closer to 25-33% of what they used to fight WWII.

[Lowpe]

How much of lend lease went thru Siberia? I know the Japanese allowed merchants flagged in some manner to safely transit from North America...but that wouldn't be the case now! Perhaps without that pipeline lend lease would have struggled with only the North Sea and the Persian routes available? Below is some notes on lend lease air...

The second route began in Great Falls, Montana, and went through western Canada to Ladd Field, then continued to Siberia, and finally to Moscow. This route totaled 7,900 miles. Other routes by sea and air were used to supply Lend-Lease equipment, but going through Alaska was shorter and less dangerous than routes by sea. The routes by sea were longer and also dangerous due to German submarines. Since the route through Ladd Field was safer and shorter, the transferred planes made it to the European front within days instead of weeks or months. This route became known as the Alaska-Siberia Route (ALSIB). The United States constructed seven airfields in central Alaska, one at Northway, Tanancross, Big Delta, Ladd Field (Fairbanks), Galena, Moses Point, and Nome. Canada was already building six airfields between Edmonton and Whitehorse. This completed the Alaska-Siberia Route for the delivery of aircraft to the Soviets.

At first, the United States wanted to turn over the planes to Soviet aircrews in Siberia. However, Soviet Leader Josef Stalin did not want United States military forces flying into Soviet airfields, he insisted that Soviet pilots should accept the planes in Alaska. The U.S. and the Soviet Union agreed that Ladd Field in Fairbanks would be the delivery point, due to its strategic location and the fact that, of the routes available, it was the safest and quickest. Since the Soviets officially took ownership of the aircraft at Ladd Field, the planes were inspected and painted with a red star to denote that the aircraft were now the property of the Soviet Union. The Soviets would land at Nome for refueling and repairs before crossing the Bering Strait.

The first Lend-Lease planes flown between Great Falls and Fairbanks arrived on September 3, 1942. Five A-20 bombers made the first two-day flight. Every plane arrived with a white star on the fuselage (body of the plane). The Soviet pilots painted over the white star with the red star, the emblem of the Soviet Union, before leaving for the Soviet Union. The next day, Soviet officers flew in from Siberia. Finally, a group of Soviet pilots landed at Ladd Field on September 24 to begin five days of training before flying the new planes home.

Wartime censorship meant that the ALSIB route and the Soviet soldiers stationed at Ladd Field were not publicly discussed until the summer of 1944. However, in towns along the way, the operation was common knowledge. The Soviet pilots stayed at Ladd Field until the end of WWII. In that time, the United States delivered almost 8,000 planes to the Soviet Union.

[Bif1961]

The Pacific Route was a delivery route used during World War II to move goods, particularly Lend-Lease goods from the United States to the Soviet Union.

This commenced in October 1941, though some goods had been moved prior to this under the "cash and carry" agreement. The route was affected by the start of hostilities between Japan and the US in December 1941, but was not interrupted as Japan and the Soviet Union maintained a strict neutrality towards each other for the duration of the conflict, changing only in August 1945. Due to this neutrality the goods could be moved only in Soviet-flagged ships, and, as they were inspected by the Japanese, could not include war materials. The route was therefore used to transport foods, raw materials and non-military goods such as lorries and other road vehicles, railway locomotives and rolling stock. It was also the most practical route for goods and materials produced in the US western states. During the conflict the Pacific Route saw a steady stream of goods moved from the west coast of the United States and overall accounted for some 50% of all Lend-lease goods to the Soviet Union.[1] The route closed in September 1945 with the end of the conflict and the cessation of the Lend-Lease scheme. The ALSIB was used to transfer approximately 8,000 aircraft.

[JeffroK]

Just think what the Western Allies could do with all of the items sent to the USSR, maybe the RAF/RAAF would start the war with Buffalo & Wirraway and there would be enough AFV to fill out the Australian & Indian Armoured Brigades?

[Bif1961]

Great question to ponder but the Russian manpower made the possible best use of all that material as they had the men waiting for it. I have been reading several different reviews on Lend Lease. Depending on if the Russian was under the old Soviet Union or post-Soviet, for their opinion. However Zhukov said without lend lease it would have been impossible to beat the Nazis.

[Lowpe]

May 23, 1942

Night bombing from Manchuko to Magwe...Nicks actually perform well versus twin engine bombers in the NF role, engaging, and damaging some of the bombers. Problem is I need them daytime too, and have only 2 Sentai and 1 Chutai of them.