The Accidental War Obvert vs Lowpe

[Lowpe]

So,this is the first time since Soviet activation,that I opened up a dummy game to peak at their TOE. I had hoped that the Soviet Army withdraw happened sooner than November, but...

So, whither Japan now? Some potent offensive tools have been added,or will shortly be added to Japan. The Type 1 medium tank, the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions, the A6M3, Tojo IIa, Nick A, Rufe, and looking a little further down the road the Yamoto and the J2M2 Jack and even the Oscar IIa.

Unfortunately, I plan on being boring.[:(] Hopefully fighting to a stalemate on Malaya and Manchuko, while cleaning up Luzon and Mindanao and then moving on to Java and tackling Sumatra and Malaya last. In China, I think the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions will rail over and help with the conquest of the Changsha production triangle, and or the Sian line to northern China.

The Pacific will see the Wake Island, Northern New Guinea, to eastern Aleutians held -- no further progress here.

I looked at theElf's and Alfred's excellent advice, but I was not in position either materially or by skillset to pull it off in a scenario one game. My shortcomings. My plane builds and r&d was all wrong given the Soviet activation, and I have had a 3-400 fighter plane deficit for most of the game.

On the plus side, my Betty/Nell pilots are excellent and at full strength, as is the Army bombing force although a lot of it is restricted to China and Manchuko.

The Americans have lost two fleet carriers and Japan one light carrier...

So cleanup where I can, grab economic production in China, establish a perimeter on Manchuko and Malaya, move on Java and then tackle Malaya by constricting the line of supply there and attempt to whittle down Soviet pools whenever possible.

So what is the goal...to last as long as possible.

[Encircled]

Maybe Obvert will make a mistake and get too carried away?

Be interesting to see how much pressure you can put on the Chinese and the Russians

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Encircled

Maybe Obvert will make a mistake and get too carried away?

Be interesting to see how much pressure you can put on the Chinese and the Russians

Well, he is playing in a lot of games right now.

[Lecivius]

Looking at that picture on the 5th Tank, all I can say is "That's a LIGHT tank?!?" [X(]

[jwolf]

By Soviet standards, yes a T26 is light. [;)] But I don't know if the pic is actually a T26 or a heavier model.

[Lokasenna]

It is definitely not a T-26.

I would guess it's either a KV-85 or an IS-2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kliment_V ... tank#KV-85

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IS_tank_f ... scheme.jpg

[adarbrauner]

Definitely JS 2

[DanSez]

Yes, JS-2, a very late 1944/1945 model tank would be the Soviet heavy hitter when they 'naturally' activated in 1945.
Still according to the WW2Database site:
1,272 T-26 light tanks participated in Operation August Storm at the end of the war in Asia, which saw Russian forces attacking Japanese positions in the Manchurian region of Northeast China.
https://ww2db.com/vehicle_spec.php?q=303


The T-26 is smaller than the Type 97.

SPECIFICATIONS

T-26 Model 1933
Machinery One 6,600cc 4-cylinder air-cooled T-26 engine rated at 90hp
Suspension Leaf quarter-elliptic springs
Armament 1x45mm 20K mod. 1932/34 tank gun (122 rounds), 1x7.62mm DT machine gun
Armor 6mm bottom, 6-10mm top, 15mm hull, 15mm turret
Crew 3
Length 4.65 m
Width 2.44 m
Height 2.24 m
Weight 9.6 t
Speed 16 km/h off-road; 31 km/h on-road
Range 130 km off-road; 240 km on-road

SPECIFICATIONS

Type 97 Chi-Ha
Machinery One Mitsubishi Type 97 21.7-liter V-12 air-cooled diesel engine rated at 170hp
Suspension Bell crank
Armament 1x57mm Type 97 gun (100 rounds), 2x7.7mm Type 97 machine gun
Armor 33mm turret front, 26mm turret sides and rear, 19mm turret top, 20mm hull front, 9mm hull sides, 20mm hull rear, 8mm hull bottom
Crew 4
Length 5.52 m
Width 2.33 m
Height 2.23 m
Weight 15.8 t
Speed 38 km/h
Range 210 km

Photographs

[Encircled]

Unless he has T-34 and KV-1s in the region, the Russian armor shouldn't be any better than yours, especially if you can seize control of the air.

[Lowpe]

June 8th, 1942

Bombed some ABDA troops and this showed up...no combat to force the evacuation.

So far thru the first week of June, which actually includes the last day of May fighter production looks good:

A6M3: 51; Nick 29; Tojo 21. 5 Squadrons fly the A6M3 but one is a chutai back on Honshu. One squadron at half strength flies the Tojo IIa, and the Nick is up to 2 sentai and 2 chutai.

Lots of sub action,one Dutch reported sunk by depth charge, no Allied night bombing.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Encircled

Unless he has T-34 and KV-1s in the region, the Russian armor shouldn't be any better than yours, especially if you can seize control of the air.

Just that the SOV has a lot more of it along with a lot more arty .... again though, if he controls the air, he can mitigate that ...

[Encircled]

That is also true!

What are the Soviet supply stocks like in '42 anyone know?

[Lowpe]

Snow, snow, more snow....

June 9th, 1942

Soviet sub nails IJN sub off Singers...

IJN sub nails cargo ship off Lord Howe Island.

[Lowpe]

A miss...

[Lowpe]

Malaya

[Lowpe]

A note about the Allied subs pictured above, there seems quite the concentrated effort to nail another IJN carrier, as there are several sub taskforces of 2 subs that seem intent on chasing the KB. I am not sure that 2 sub task forces are efficient or anymore effective, but Obvert does have a reputation of nailing large warships with subs.

Gives you something to think about. I suspect there are over 40 Allied subs blockading Malaya.

[HansBolter]

I experimented with 2 sub TFs a while back and found them to be very effective in getting tandem attacks.

One sub attacks and after that attack closes the second sub gets a follow up attack.

Happens quite frequently.

[DanSez]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

A note about the Allied subs pictured above, there seems quite the concentrated effort to nail another IJN carrier, as there are several sub taskforces of 2 subs that seem intent on chasing the KB. I am not sure that 2 sub task forces are efficient or anymore effective, but Obvert does have a reputation of nailing large warships with subs.

Gives you something to think about. I suspect there are over 40 Allied subs blockading Malaya.

Having 2 subs in the task force keeps it on patrol, maybe giving them a 'second wack' at a shot when the other is damaged.

I have been using dual boats off the coast of Australia in a PBEM game and I got a couple of shots at American Carriers (with at least one dude bouncing off the hull[:@] of a carrier and 1 hit on another). A couple of I-boats got beat up but so far they have staggered home to be repaired.

[Lowpe]

Hans and Dan -- what does the combat report look like when a task force of two subs attacks? Does it list both subs even though only one attacked, or does it list both subs, or does it list only the attacking sub?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Hans and Dan -- what does the combat report look like when a task force of two subs attacks? Does it list both subs even though only one attacked, or does it list both subs, or does it list only the attacking sub?

As far as I recall it lists one. I think I recall developers (and maybe Alfred) saying the way the code works only one sub can attack in any given combat. My opponent likes 2-sub patrols and reckons they increase overall success to some degree.