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Dates arrived unescorted

Tsk, tsk. Where were their fathers?! Prom has changed since my day . . .[;)]

Haha!

If it says Dates, translate to Kates. My stupid auto-correct consistently makes this change. Grrrr. [:@]
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Awhoe lot of P-40E groups just moved into Singapore. There are now about 350-400 fighters total. I've layered the CAP extensively, but again, this is a new situation for me. I've never used these airframes in massive defensive CAPs at these dates. I don't know as much about how they'll work, and what to put at which layer. It's going to be a bit experimental for a while, but hopefully I'll find some new tactics. [:)]
I usually look at the maneuver bands for the aircraft and find the point where their performance trails off most severely, then set them just below that in altitude. But there is always a need for some very low CAP around 4K feet to make sure torpedo bombers do not get a free shot.

Yes.

For Singapore if any TB strike, they're going to suffer! There are probably 100 40mm Bofors in base in addition to the many more 12.7mm MG and 20mm Oerlikons. There are also now 3 new USA Heavy AA gun units.
Not sure, but I think the base AAA only helps protect docked or disbanded ships, not the TFs that could be anywhere in the 40 NM hex.
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[font="Times New Roman"]June 13, 1942[/font]
Aggressive sub use has it's drawbacks occasionally. Two hit mines this turn, but they should make it back to the yards.

The big news is that the IJA rails in the 38th division from Taiping. This is the last of the divisions that were not engaged in Southern Malaya, and I love that it's here now. The armoured units move into Temuloh, and he doesn't have enough to boot us out in x3 terrain. Now though, that division cannot rail out! [:)]

About 500 AV of armor and Aussie brigades are turning NW and will run toward Taiping. I've got a lot of arty up here too, and recon should reveal what's left soon. Now I need to land some more units up at Utan Melintang and quickly.
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TF 333 encounters mine field at Cam Ranh Bay (64,72)

Allied Ships
SS Grayback, Mine hits 1

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TF 422 encounters mine field at Cam Ranh Bay (64,72)

Allied Ships
SS Greenling, Mine hits 1

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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Portland
CL Boise

Japanese ground losses:
214 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Resources hits 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 6
Port hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Northampton
CA Northampton firing at Johore Bahru

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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Devonshire
CA Canberra
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius

Japanese ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (3 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
Port fuel hits 1

Walrus II acting as spotter for CA Exeter
CA Exeter firing at 56th/B Division

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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 26

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson III (LR): 5 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Medan , at 46,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 22

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Temuloh (50,78)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 282 troops, 29 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 609

Defending force 4946 troops, 36 guns, 470 vehicles, Assault Value = 353

Assaulting units:
47th Naval Guard Unit
Yokosuka 5th SNLF
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
38th Division
46th Naval Guard Unit
RTA/C Cavalry Division
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
22nd JAAF AF Bn
3rd Construction Battalion
26th Fld AA Gun Co
10th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
255th Armoured Brigade
2nd Cav Recce Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
2/15 Punjab Battalion
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The KB is spotted at Kuching. I'm still not sure what is happening here. Why is it so far forward, risking sub contacts daily?

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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[font="Times New Roman"]June 14, 1942[/font]
Two good bombardments on the 14th. The units in Johore Baru have to be suffering after all of this. I'll keep it up for another month or so. Then I hope to land two supported and rested divisions there. The KB is still showing itself along the coast of Borneo. What is up?
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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Portland
CL Boise

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port fuel hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Northampton
CA Northampton firing at Johore Bahru

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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Devonshire
CA Canberra
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius

Japanese ground losses:
365 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (3 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)


Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2

CA Exeter firing at Johore Bahru
CA Devonshire firing at 56th/A Division
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[font="Times New Roman"]June 15, 1942[/font]
Went away to Devon over the Easter holiday. A good trip with the family. had a ride on an old steam train, went to Agatha Christie's house and estate, some good coastal walks and some great old pubs. Most of the ones we went to this trip dated from the 14th-16th century!! [X(] The beer was fresh and tasty though, and the fires and dogs made for a cosy visit.

Something definitely began on the 15th. The Japanese air forces combined for a massive 400 bombers attack on the fields at Chungking. Remarkably, with the entire Chinese air force and some Brit and US groups on the ground, only about a dozen planes were lost. I'm confused at how the fields are still open, I was able to fly all groups out this turn, and most fighters are able to offer CAP in their new locations. [&:]

I'm guessing these were not well trained pilots. At any rate, it doesn't matter. Chinese industry is open to attack now. I've moved all of the AVG and the better Chinese groups to Kunming to hold out with the good US air support there. It's still a long distance sweep to the mountains, so maybe these groups can pop in now and again to cause some trouble. I'm guessing this coincides with the recent ground movements to Pingsiang, and I bet more will come. I think it's already to little too late for the Japanese in China though. Most Corps have filled out disabled, forts have reached high levels at key locations, and supply has been conserved for months. In addition, the northern bases are recieving some help from Russian supply and engineers. Several Chinese infantry units are filling out up there as well.

Some zero sweeps went for the AVG and they were set up high, so handled them easily with only 2 losses for about 20 A6M2. [:)]
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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Portland
CL Boise
DD Benham
DD Maury
DD McCall
DD Patterson

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Northampton
CA Northampton firing at 2nd/A Division
SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Portland
CA Portland firing at 56th/A Division

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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Devonshire
CA Canberra
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
DD Fortune
DD Arrow
DD Cassin
DD Downes
DD Bagley

Japanese ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 32 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 45 (22 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (12 destroyed, 10 disabled)


Resources hits 1
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 39
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

Walrus II acting as spotter for CA Exeter
CA Exeter firing at 2nd/B Division

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Morning Air attack on Changsha , at 82,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 10
P-43A-1 Lancer x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 97
G4M1 Betty x 28
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
I-15-III: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 7 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground
DB-3M: 2 damaged
DB-3M: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 30
G4M1 Betty x 22
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 3
G4M1 Betty x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 62
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 3 damaged
Hawk 75M: 1 damaged
Hawk 75M: 1 destroyed on ground
I-15-III: 1 damaged
I-15-III: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-15-III: 1 damaged
I-15-III: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 3 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground
DB-3M: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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I'm thinking soon the Burma road will reopen, at least before 43. That should help alleviate any supply issues in the next few months.

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I am guessing KB is simply covering the several valuable damaged ships in Northern Borneo so they can repair enough system points to risk moving further away from your bombers. I think there are at least two BBs there?
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I am guessing KB is simply covering the several valuable damaged ships in Northern Borneo so they can repair enough system points to risk moving further away from your bombers. I think there are at least two BBs there?

There have been, but somehow I show no ships in any North Borneo port now, with decent recon flying. I think he either sneaked the Mutsu and Myoko out, or they sank trying! There have been subs all over the place for a while now, but some TFs still get through undetected or unchallenged.

He's been putting damaged warships with merchants and troop ships in big TFs to move them around. It's an interesting tactic, and can cover them up a bit from search, but ultimately if they get jumped by a sub the sub will go for the BB over the xAK.
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[font="Times New Roman"]June 16, 1942[/font]
The divisions at Johore Baru can't be doing well by now. It looks like the guys making dinner and cleaning out the guns are getting hit hard right now. I have two IDs prepping to land here in about a month, and by that time these might be in bad shape if this continues. I wish I could land sooner.

In China some pea shooters take out a few Bettys aiming for Lanchow. If he's trying to hit here, that probably means he's not going for China by land. It looks like he'll just try to strangle the economy there, hitting the industry and engaging to make the Chinese run short.

Some Sallys get to Kunming bofore the AVG could make it, and get a bit taken off of the HI. A few I-15s that did make it there knock some down though too, surprisingly.

Units begin to approach Taiping on Malaya. Temuloh is locked up with equal numbers on both sides, as is Kluong, but there is a chance the armor can make a difference at Taiping. I'll give it a shot anyway.

The KB is now set up at Miri. It appears no other fighters are there though, which is curious. Hmmm.
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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Portland
CL Boise
DD Benham
DD Maury
DD McCall
DD Patterson

Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 16 (4 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Airbase hits 14
Runway hits 20
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 4

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Northampton
CA Northampton firing at Johore Bahru

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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Devonshire
CA Canberra
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
DD Fortune
DD Arrow
DD Cassin
DD Downes
DD Bagley

Japanese ground losses:
176 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 22 (5 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (6 destroyed, 9 disabled)


Resources hits 1
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

CA Exeter firing at Johore Bahru
CA Devonshire firing at Johore Bahru

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Morning Air attack on Lanchow , at 81,34

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
I-16-III x 10
I-15-III x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-16-III: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kunming , at 69,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 47

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 5000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


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Hmmm - no troops showing at Pontianak, Singkawang or the base to the east of that. Could be ceding NW Borneo to you and moving all his troops to Miri and Brunei to hold those as long as possible? Or maybe you just haven't reconned those three bases in a while?

Your ships bombarding Johore Bahru seem to be doing very well for CAs and CLs. Is all that bombarding increasing their experience level significantly? Someone on the forum said that bombardment doesn't to much for experience.
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Hmmm - no troops showing at Pontianak, Singkawang or the base to the east of that. Could be ceding NW Borneo to you and moving all his troops to Miri and Brunei to hold those as long as possible? Or maybe you just haven't reconned those three bases in a while?

Your ships bombarding Johore Bahru seem to be doing very well for CAs and CLs. Is all that bombarding increasing their experience level significantly? Someone on the forum said that bombardment doesn't to much for experience.

He does have troops there. Quite a few at last recon. More than I would have expected. I posted a map a while back with numbers I think.

Kuching is over 10k if I remember correctly, while Singkawang was about 8k. Significant in that I can't get them easily, but he has a lot of troops potentially out on a limb. The nearby dot bases are being invested now, and will grow.

I'll check. I'm not running tracker, so I'll have to do a screenshot and keep it for later to check changes. I do know the ships that have survived the bloodbaths of the DEI in the early months are very high in EXP. There are many with 65+ night skill, which is fantastic for the Allies at this stage.
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[font="Times New Roman"]June 17, 1942[/font]
The Japanese had built Luong to level 2 fields, and they have been periodically posting fighters here for LR CAP, so I've finally decided to deal with it. I sent the works in today, and got some decent hits, but not as much as I'd like due to severe storms. I'll revisit again later. Two hexes from Singers it should be easy to manage.

The Allies grab a dot base near Borneo today. This should begin small commando operation to continue seizing little unoccupied bases at a rate the Japanese cannot keep up with, starting here and moving toward the PI. [:)]
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Morning Air attack on Kluong , at 50,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 8
A-20A Havoc x 12
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-26 Marauder x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 18
P-40E Warhawk x 26

Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington Ic bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kluong , at 50,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 9
A-20A Havoc x 3
B-17E Fortress x 30
LB-30 Liberator x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 9
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Serasan (57,86)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 186 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 5

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Serasan !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: op mode(-), shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st Marine Raider Bn /2
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Commando ops via sub is such a fun part of the game. I wish all subs had the capacity to carry a small amount of troops, (as they did in the war).

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I wish all subs had the capacity to carry a small amount of troops, (as they did in the war).

Most Gatos only inserted small groups, 1-5 people plus supplies. It would be a tight fit to put a platoon of marines, with all their gear, on a Gato rigged for patrol [:D]



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What sub museum is that?
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DamnifIknow, I found it on Bing searching Gato class interior.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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It might be the USS Silversides Museum in Muskegon, MI. The sign over the engine on the left is the same sign over the same engine in a picture I have from visiting the USS Silversides several years ago.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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I can tell you that it's neither of the two that are in Baltimore or NYC (one of which is a Balao-class in any case).
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ORIGINAL: Lecivius

ORIGINAL: obvert
I wish all subs had the capacity to carry a small amount of troops, (as they did in the war).

Most Gatos only inserted small groups, 1-5 people plus supplies. It would be a tight fit to put a platoon of marines, with all their gear, on a Gato rigged for patrol [:D]

Early war in the Solomons the coast watchers and often many civilians were loaded on subs to be rescued. Sometimes 20-30 at a time. May have been tight, but the journeys were not long, and it meant life or death, so they piled them in as tightly as possible.

Even if you could only get one or two squads per sub on, that would take a dot base, so it would work.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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[font="Times New Roman"]June 18-19, 1942[/font]
Not much action on the 18th, but on the 19th Miri is hit for the first time. This strike takes about 60+ points off of the oil. A very good hit. No fighters there to contest. There are about 400 on Malaya flying CAP and (most likely) escort. With the 4Es it doesn't take much of a gap in coverage to make a big impact.

Interesting that although the KB went dark from search, it is still at Miri, and it's CAP was reported as not being able to get to the strikes. [:)]

That makes me wonder. Is there CAP up? Is it LR CAPing something? Odd. message if the KB is in hex since the strikes were very reachable at 8k.

The IJAAF takes a few HI points from Chungking. This will be a slow bleed and not much I can do except for an occasional run in with CAP.

A sub gets a nice fat AKE near the PI. [8D]
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 18, 1942
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Morning Air attack on Kluong , at 50,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 6
A-20A Havoc x 15
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-26 Marauder x 3

Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington Ic bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 19, 1942
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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Miri , at 64,87

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

No Allied losses

Oil hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on Miri , at 64,87

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Oil hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on Miri , at 64,87

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Oil hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on Miri , at 64,87

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
LB-30 Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged

Oil hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on Miri , at 64,87

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Sub attack near Balabac at 69,81

Japanese Ships
AKE Nissho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Teshio Maru

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-129

SS ShCh-129 launches 2 torpedoes at AKE Nissho Maru
ShCh-129 diving deep ....
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Miri has been repaired slowly, and this takes it back almost to where it began.
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Yes!! Another decent hit on Zuikaku! This one has listing/counter flooding and engine damage messages. That should mean some good damage and slowed speed.



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I also got lucky on Luzon, where a P-400 group jumps some Sallys and a few Anns the one turn he doesn't have Nicks flying sweeps or escort. [&o]

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