18th Dec 1941
KB is fully refueled at Truk and air group losses made good and will move to the DEI without delay. Busy unloading a load of troops at Mersing, I'm going all in on Singapore. No sign of his air force at all over the last few turns.
Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
18th Dec 1941
KB is fully refueled at Truk and air group losses made good and will move to the DEI without delay. Busy unloading a load of troops at Mersing, I'm going all in on Singapore. No sign of his air force at all over the last few turns.
He will re-organize his air force and then defend with large CAP over places he wants to protect. Your biggest challenge in the game will be to compete with his pilots.
His Ground & Naval game is good but his air game is supreme.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
ORIGINAL: Miller
18th Dec 1941
KB is fully refueled at Truk and air group losses made good and will move to the DEI without delay. Busy unloading a load of troops at Mersing, I'm going all in on Singapore. No sign of his air force at all over the last few turns.
He will re-organize his air force and then defend with large CAP over places he wants to protect. Your biggest challenge in the game will be to compete with his pilots.
His Ground & Naval game is good but his air game is supreme.
That's why I have been fairly reticent about using Netty's on Naval strikes, I cannot guarantee they will not hit a CAP trap and I don't have enough long range escorts to spare. My two large (45a/c) Zero sqds are currently over Palemmbang for the foreseeable future and all my Oscars are currently employed in Malaya. Hopefully the KB will tip the balance when it arrives in the area.....
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
19th-22nd Dec 41
Nothing of note on 19th or 20th, I continue to make mass landings at Mersing and push SW to take Johore Baru. A few units are waiting in strat mode in northern Malaya waiting for my tank units to clear the rail lines, he has 6 units at Temuloh but they are cut off with no means of retreating south.
On the 21st Hong Kong falls, I immediately move transports in to pick up the div and art units there, not sure where I will send them yet. In the PI an empty Manila falls, he is down to Clark and Bataan now, but I will need to bring a LOT more troops here to have any chance of making further progress, it will have to wait for now. He sends a TF of old Britsh crap to bombard Jolo but they do little damage and land based Kates flying from there give him a taste of 1000ft bombing, sinking the old CLs Dragon and Durban and the DD Vendetta.
Recon shows he has cleared Singapore and Batavia of most a/c so looks like he is already preparing for my next move after Singapore falls. I will probably use 2/3rds of the troops from there for my Java invasion and the other 1/3rd for Burma. I already have the 33rd Div and several smaller units marching towards Moulmein, but obviously it will take them a while to march there through the jungle trails.
Nothing of note on 19th or 20th, I continue to make mass landings at Mersing and push SW to take Johore Baru. A few units are waiting in strat mode in northern Malaya waiting for my tank units to clear the rail lines, he has 6 units at Temuloh but they are cut off with no means of retreating south.
On the 21st Hong Kong falls, I immediately move transports in to pick up the div and art units there, not sure where I will send them yet. In the PI an empty Manila falls, he is down to Clark and Bataan now, but I will need to bring a LOT more troops here to have any chance of making further progress, it will have to wait for now. He sends a TF of old Britsh crap to bombard Jolo but they do little damage and land based Kates flying from there give him a taste of 1000ft bombing, sinking the old CLs Dragon and Durban and the DD Vendetta.
Recon shows he has cleared Singapore and Batavia of most a/c so looks like he is already preparing for my next move after Singapore falls. I will probably use 2/3rds of the troops from there for my Java invasion and the other 1/3rd for Burma. I already have the 33rd Div and several smaller units marching towards Moulmein, but obviously it will take them a while to march there through the jungle trails.
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Very strange he did not contest the Mersing landings. Singapur's TBs could have dealt you big pain easily. What air cover do you have over Mersing? CVL? Oscars and Nates? From where?
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: adarbrauner
Very strange he did not contest the Mersing landings. Singapur's TBs could have dealt you big pain easily. What air cover do you have over Mersing? CVL? Oscars and Nates? From where?
I forgot to mention he did launch another air strike against the ships there a few turns back but they got chewed up by my LRCAP based at Kuantan (about 50 Oscars). It was only crap like Blenheims and Wirraways though, he's obviously saving the Brit TB's for my up coming Java invasion.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
23rd-24th Dec 41
KB, currently south of Davao attacks and sinks about 10 low value transports either fleeing or trying to get supply into the PI, either way he knows where it is now.
Landing the last dregs of my Singapore invasion troops into Mersing and my tanks clear the last Allied unit blocking the rail lines down to Johore Baru, allowing the units in northern Malaya to start the move south. Looks like I will have roughly 3500AV crossing the river, probably in the first few days of January. He will have almost 1000AV behind level 4 forts, so it won't be a walk in the park but I'm confident it will fall before my target of the end of January.
KB, currently south of Davao attacks and sinks about 10 low value transports either fleeing or trying to get supply into the PI, either way he knows where it is now.
Landing the last dregs of my Singapore invasion troops into Mersing and my tanks clear the last Allied unit blocking the rail lines down to Johore Baru, allowing the units in northern Malaya to start the move south. Looks like I will have roughly 3500AV crossing the river, probably in the first few days of January. He will have almost 1000AV behind level 4 forts, so it won't be a walk in the park but I'm confident it will fall before my target of the end of January.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
In PDU off the Aussies will have less than nothing for a long time to protect the industry and resources. Do you plan to harvest anything down there once the DEI is secure?
Also, as you contemplate 44-45, do you have any target airframes for the end of the line in a PDU-off game?
Also, as you contemplate 44-45, do you have any target airframes for the end of the line in a PDU-off game?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: obvert
In PDU off the Aussies will have less than nothing for a long time to protect the industry and resources. Do you plan to harvest anything down there once the DEI is secure?
Also, as you contemplate 44-45, do you have any target airframes for the end of the line in a PDU-off game?
I will have to see how the next month or so pans out before I consider setting foot on Aussie soil, something I have yet to do in any of my other games playing as Japan. I know he is due 125 P40s to arrive there within that time and they could make any potential raid on his industry by the KB expensive.
To be honest this PDU-off carry on is rather scary. Obviously the Oscar line will be important as most of the Army fighter sqds upgrade to one form or another of it at some stage of the upgrade path. The armoured versions which carry 2x250kg bombs should come in very handy at 1000ft[;)] Long term wise I'm going to have to sit down one night and go through each sqd and note what road they go down.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
25th-26th Dec 41
Christmas vacation time for the Allies as Mr Kane seemingly gives all his air and sea units two days off to celebrate. A bit of ground combat aside in China where I rough up some of his units in open terrain nothing is happening.
Initial recon of Java indicates a lack of shipping or air units present at the main bases, I'm wondering if he is pulling out what he can rather than staying there for a fight? I guess I will find out soon enough...
Christmas vacation time for the Allies as Mr Kane seemingly gives all his air and sea units two days off to celebrate. A bit of ground combat aside in China where I rough up some of his units in open terrain nothing is happening.
Initial recon of Java indicates a lack of shipping or air units present at the main bases, I'm wondering if he is pulling out what he can rather than staying there for a fight? I guess I will find out soon enough...
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
27th-28th Dec 41
Constant recon of Surabaya showed no fighters there but search picked up quite a few ships milling around the area. Taking a chance, I send the KB plus escorts on a full speed run from Singkawang to 6 hexes north of Surabaya. They find a RN fleet to attack:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 56,104
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 75
D3A1 Val x 75
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 5 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Glasgow, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
AO TAN 3
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CA Exeter, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
AM Pieter de Bitter, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CA Cornwall, Bomb hits 1
DD Tenedos, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
Pretty poor shooting by my Kates but we still sink a modern CL and it looks like Exeter will go down. Bad weather prevents any PM strikes and surely saves the rest of the ships in the TF. No CAP at all over Surabaya is very surprising, I doubt he will make the same mistake again. So do I hang around and perhaps attack the port? I don't have the fuel to move south of Java to intercept anything he decides to flee south with.
Constant recon of Surabaya showed no fighters there but search picked up quite a few ships milling around the area. Taking a chance, I send the KB plus escorts on a full speed run from Singkawang to 6 hexes north of Surabaya. They find a RN fleet to attack:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 56,104
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 75
D3A1 Val x 75
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 5 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Glasgow, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
AO TAN 3
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CA Exeter, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
AM Pieter de Bitter, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CA Cornwall, Bomb hits 1
DD Tenedos, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
Pretty poor shooting by my Kates but we still sink a modern CL and it looks like Exeter will go down. Bad weather prevents any PM strikes and surely saves the rest of the ships in the TF. No CAP at all over Surabaya is very surprising, I doubt he will make the same mistake again. So do I hang around and perhaps attack the port? I don't have the fuel to move south of Java to intercept anything he decides to flee south with.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
29th-30th Dec 41
As I expected, he moves in 130 fighters at Surabaya but I had wisely decided to retreat north and refuel. He sends his cripples south for Aus but my subs are waiting and sink Exeter and the CL Glasgow.
Over in Malaya the last of my troops are about to reach Johore Baru, where I will recombine them into the full size Divs, I will have seven crossing the river with a total AV of just under 4000. D Day will be in about 10 days. Over in the PI Clark is now under seige, he has 1800AV there to my 1200AV, so obviously I won't be attacking here anytime soon. He is using AKLs to ship in supplies, fine by me as in the end it will only prolong the agony of his troops.
I have to take my hat off to Mr Kane, he can crank out the turns at a rate of knots[&o]
As I expected, he moves in 130 fighters at Surabaya but I had wisely decided to retreat north and refuel. He sends his cripples south for Aus but my subs are waiting and sink Exeter and the CL Glasgow.
Over in Malaya the last of my troops are about to reach Johore Baru, where I will recombine them into the full size Divs, I will have seven crossing the river with a total AV of just under 4000. D Day will be in about 10 days. Over in the PI Clark is now under seige, he has 1800AV there to my 1200AV, so obviously I won't be attacking here anytime soon. He is using AKLs to ship in supplies, fine by me as in the end it will only prolong the agony of his troops.
I have to take my hat off to Mr Kane, he can crank out the turns at a rate of knots[&o]
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
I have just started following your AAR and wanted to say that I enjoy the style in which it is written. Short and crisp action reports match my attention span. [:'(]
I am looking forward to an exciting game between two excellent players. This should be fun!
I am looking forward to an exciting game between two excellent players. This should be fun!
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: pws1225
I have just started following your AAR and wanted to say that I enjoy the style in which it is written. Short and crisp action reports match my attention span. [:'(]
I am looking forward to an exciting game between two excellent players. This should be fun!
Thank you Sir. I'm not very techie minded so find doing Maps and other screenshots a chore, though I will eventually post a few up when things get less hectic.
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
29th-30th Dec 41
As I expected, he moves in 130 fighters at Surabaya but I had wisely decided to retreat north and refuel. He sends his cripples south for Aus but my subs are waiting and sink Exeter and the CL Glasgow.
Wow!
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
31st Dec 41 - 2nd Jan 42
Almost nothing of note. There will be a lull I would imagine until Singapore falls and I can start my second phase of landings on Java and elsewhere, hopefully within a months time.
Almost nothing of note. There will be a lull I would imagine until Singapore falls and I can start my second phase of landings on Java and elsewhere, hopefully within a months time.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
3rd Jan 42
Noticing he had withdrawn his fighters from Surabaya again I send the KB along for a crack at the port as recon showed several warships there, not any more:
Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 103
B4Y1 Jean x 10
B5N1 Kate x 25
B5N2 Kate x 143
D3A1 Val x 147
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Bomb hits 14, and is sunk
DD Tenedos, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
SS KXVII, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
DD Scout, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
Elsewhere a nasty AVG CAP trap in China kills about 30 of my single engine bomber crap. My troops begin their march to Singapore, 8 Divs with a total AV of 3800......
Noticing he had withdrawn his fighters from Surabaya again I send the KB along for a crack at the port as recon showed several warships there, not any more:
Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 103
B4Y1 Jean x 10
B5N1 Kate x 25
B5N2 Kate x 143
D3A1 Val x 147
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Bomb hits 14, and is sunk
DD Tenedos, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
SS KXVII, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
DD Scout, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
Elsewhere a nasty AVG CAP trap in China kills about 30 of my single engine bomber crap. My troops begin their march to Singapore, 8 Divs with a total AV of 3800......
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
3rd Jan 42
Noticing he had withdrawn his fighters from Surabaya again I send the KB along for a crack at the port as recon showed several warships there, not any more:
Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 103
B4Y1 Jean x 10
B5N1 Kate x 25
B5N2 Kate x 143
D3A1 Val x 147
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Bomb hits 14, and is sunk
DD Tenedos, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
SS KXVII, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
DD Scout, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
Elsewhere a nasty AVG CAP trap in China kills about 30 of my single engine bomber crap. My troops begin their march to Singapore, 8 Divs with a total AV of 3800......
Thiiiis was painful
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
4th Jan 42
My first major setback as Akagi eats a torpedo from S39, with 30 major float and engine damage she will be out of service for at least 3 months. However I should be able to accommodate her air groups on the rest of my CVs.
My first major setback as Akagi eats a torpedo from S39, with 30 major float and engine damage she will be out of service for at least 3 months. However I should be able to accommodate her air groups on the rest of my CVs.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Good news and bad news, but Houston and company will stay sunk.
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