Naval and Defense News

[ExNusquam]

ORIGINAL: Gneckes

Just posturing, or setting up advance defenses?

¿Por qué no los dos?

[Dysta]

Trump is yet to say when to attack Syria, but on the other side of the planet, this naval drill draws some Pro-Independent sympathizers' ire. Some scaremongering media is signaling for another Taiwan crisis:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... n-comments

[Hongjian]

PLAN Fleet Review this morning. 48 ships and more than 10,000 officers and enlisted.









Also, nice close shot of the Type 094A improved Jin-class SSBN (note the rounded sail without any windows like the 093B)

[Dysta]

Deleted and reedited:

[Hongjian]

Full view.

Dysta beat me to it.[&o]

[Dysta]

Dang, we both are twins. Posted and deleted at the same time. xD

Fine, I reedit it again.

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Navyreco seems inactive these days, this news is quite curious for me:

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ility.html



I thought the CEC is giving the guidance correction authority to nearby CEC-capable units (like F-35 guiding SM-6 without Burke), not sending targeting data back to the host. But this one claimed to be CEC by Japan's MoD.

Is it also true?

EDIT:Woops, I have a stubborn thought about so many military acronyms... CEC does work like so, and F-35 taking direct control to SM-6 is a rumor:

https://news.usni.org/2016/06/22/nifcca-expands-sm6-f35

[ExNusquam]

Is there any significance to Pres. Xi appearing in fatigues as opposed to the Suit/Red Tie? Is it indicative of acting in the role of CMC Chair vs. General Secretary? Or is just a photo op?

[Dysta]

This could be too hypocritical to tell the possibility, but what kind of US Navy's OOB to overwhelm PLAN's 48 warships/subs, 76 warplanes, and a wanted head of President Xi? Given by a perfect opportunity to terminate him and waste a quadrant of all naval frontliners by put them all in vicinity, if both sides don't triggers nuclear war.

Given by the recent naval review has been reported, many viewers on Twitter and news journals aren't impressed by Xi's show off, and saying how China will never deserve to be a parity of other Navies. For Chinese these comments are just bluffs, but the distaste of Chinese militarily rise by other countries are undeniable:

https://mobile.twitter.com/xinfengcao/s ... 9407766528
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... ore-urgent

[hellfish6]

The Littoral Combat ship program just keeps falling apart, even as we add new hulls.

[Hongjian]

Finally we have clear pictures of those elusive nuclear submarines.

Type 093A SSN, 093B SSGN and 094A SSBN

[ultradave]

Not much room for a reactor plant and engine room aft of that humpback. Must be REALLY tight back there. Or a very small powerplant.

[niemand303]

I wonder if there would be a new scenario (or a renewed CMANO LIVE one) about current crisis in Syria, especially interesting since CVN-75 battlegroup left Norfolk today and might be near Syria cost in about a week.

[Primarchx]

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

The Littoral Combat ship program just keeps falling apart, even as we add new hulls.

Navy & Marine Corps having some serious problems as of late ... CVN-78, F/A-18s among others. Starting to look endemic.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: ultradave

Not much room for a reactor plant and engine room aft of that humpback. Must be REALLY tight back there. Or a very small powerplant.

That fish has 10000t displacement while full-submerged, it may looks small because of the hump draws out a lot of height from the upper hull, but it's surely bigger than any conventional sub. And it doesn't require a lot of room for nuclear sub reactor, it's not a Nimitz.

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More official photos after the review. This one is the "60000 tons of diplomacy".

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/806/41428 ... 1d9d_o.jpg (full res, too big to attach)

[ultradave]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: ultradave

Not much room for a reactor plant and engine room aft of that humpback. Must be REALLY tight back there. Or a very small powerplant.

That fish has 10000t displacement while full-submerged, it may looks small because of the hump draws out a lot of height from the upper hull, but it's surely bigger than any conventional sub. And it doesn't require a lot of room for nuclear sub reactor, it's not a Nimitz.

Doing a little looking around, I think it's more that the image is foreshortened because of the angle and magnification. Other images and drawings appear more "normal", and correspond to what looks like the power plant length of the SSNs. But I do know exactly how much room is required for nuclear sub propulsion plants. That's why it looked off to me in that picture.

[ultradave]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

More official photos after the review. This one is the "60000 tons of diplomacy".

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/806/41428 ... 1d9d_o.jpg (full res, too big to attach)

Cute. They stole that I have a 15 year old poster at work with a front view of a US carrier that says "100,000 tons of diplomacy"

[hellfish6]

ORIGINAL: Primarchx

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

The Littoral Combat ship program just keeps falling apart, even as we add new hulls.

Navy & Marine Corps having some serious problems as of late ... CVN-78, F/A-18s among others. Starting to look endemic.

I dunno if I'd go as far as endemic, but I do wonder how much of the aircraft issues, at least, can be attributed to resources for long-term maintenance being redirected to or deferred because of the F-35 program. The USAF doesn't seem to have as much of a problem as the Marines, but they also have a bit more money to shuffle around.

The ships, yeah, I dunno. The LCS was a debacle from the get-go, but CVN-78 is still hopefully just dealing with first-in-class issues. Too early to tell for the Zumwalts, methinks, but the reality of those AGS guns are a big black eye.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: ultradave


Cute. They stole that I have a 15 year old poster at work with a front view of a US carrier that says "100,000 tons of diplomacy"

What surprising me is "90000 tons" has much more search results than "100000 tons", despite the latter Nimitz models have more displacement, a majority of journals doesn't update that quote.

China should take 'Cute' as a compliment, because Queen Elizabeth, Charles de Gaulle, and carrier-wannabe Izumo are also adorable. Yet, given the fact that F-35B are huge ticks compare to Ski-launch J-15, the reason of catapult variant development is very obvious, if too soon to tell the comparability.

[Primarchx]

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

ORIGINAL: Primarchx

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

The Littoral Combat ship program just keeps falling apart, even as we add new hulls.

Navy & Marine Corps having some serious problems as of late ... CVN-78, F/A-18s among others. Starting to look endemic.

I dunno if I'd go as far as endemic, but I do wonder how much of the aircraft issues, at least, can be attributed to resources for long-term maintenance being redirected to or deferred because of the F-35 program. The USAF doesn't seem to have as much of a problem as the Marines, but they also have a bit more money to shuffle around.

The ships, yeah, I dunno. The LCS was a debacle from the get-go, but CVN-78 is still hopefully just dealing with first-in-class issues. Too early to tell for the Zumwalts, methinks, but the reality of those AGS guns are a big black eye.

Still not a good trend. KC-46 has got an arm's length of faults, the USAF is refusing F-35 deliveries, the Zumwalts going to sea without ammo for its' most vaunted capability, etc, etc.

I was willing to cut EMALS slack as new system break-in issues. But some of the fundamental flaws in the system, as reported, as just mind boggling. Resolving them are critical to the fielding of new carriers for decades and how/whether that can be done without spending unholy amounts of cash is doubtful.

It's amazing to me that we could have IOC for the F-15 three years after its' first flight and yet the F-35, which first flew in 2006, and after doing nothing but extensive testing for over a decade, is still as shaky as a newborn colt.

You expect problems with new platforms but lengthy development times, cost over-runs and expensive adjustments due to side-by-side production and testing are all having a profound effect on the force.

[mikeCK]

The aircraft issues are most likely a result of the lack of money for maintenance and replacement but I’m not sure it has anything to do with the F-35. Over the last 8 years there has been no true budget...only continuing resolutions. So the military received the bare minimum and was forced to stretch out parts and maintenance. You can’t jusy switch money from one program to another. If congress gives $100 million for the f-35, you can’t take $10 million out and buy parts. The military has been screaming for years that they needed money for replacements and spare parts for repairs.

The funding for the f-35 was set along time ago