Naval and Defense News

[kevinkins]

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/05 ... rd%20Brief

Under some definitions, this is an act of war. However, the "U.S. has formally lodged a diplomatic complaint, known as a demarche, with the Chinese government, requesting an investigation into the incident."

Technically unrelated but I will post this "news" here anyway.

http://www.dw.com/en/karl-marx-a-tool-t ... rd%20Brief

Xi Jinping was honoring "Groucho's" 200th birthday. I wonder if Jinping knows there is another meaning for the word "tool" in the American vernacular.

Kevin

[Dysta]

If negotiators want to insult China, they better save their breathe. An expected disagreement seals the fate of trade war's encroachment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HenriKenhman ... 9102244864

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Laser incident has been refuted as false accusation by Chinese official. This is also an expected response, yet it doesn't make laser pointers and laser rangefinders any less dangerous:

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-0 ... 40e6c76667

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I wonder if Jinping knows there is another meaning for the word "tool" in the American vernacular.

Nobody can build a nation without tools, that is all he need to know.

[Hongjian]

If negotiators want to insult China, they better save their breathe. An expected disagreement seals the fate of trade war's encroachment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HenriKenhman ... 9102244864

I think demands like that are not aimed at trade war, but real war.



If the demands included that every Chinese should pay the US 1000 dollars a year and that China should stop STEM education at their universities, it wouldnt look out of place. Might also add the demand that China should import million tons of Opium per year from US-owned poppy fields in Afghanistan for good measure...

Demands like these arent "negotiating". Demands like these are typically followed by an ultimatum and threat of all-out war.

Looks like "Made in China 2025" really is the bane to the Western world. Understandable, since the entire West is threatened to loose their lifelihoods and markets once China can churn out comparable high technology at cheaper prices due to state support enabled by China's political and economic system. China would truly be a Japan+USSR on steroids, unstoppable by US enforced Plaza Accords (because unlike Japan, China isnt occupied by US troops), unable to be brought down by the lack of it's own ecoomic growth and lack of consumer goods (because unlike the USSR, China's economy isnt just growing, but the individual chinese purchasing power is also growing)... The sum of all western fears.

[Rebel Yell]

So much hyperbole.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Rebel Yell



So much hyperbole.

Tell that to Chinese media.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d774e7967 ... are_p.html

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Again, Ars has turns fully anti-Chinese attitude to the extreme, that trolls and downvoters are blanketing the comment section. We are living in a world to hurting each other technologically....... including in the internet:

If hacking is also count as war, then the trade war is too puny to compare with.

https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... nce-group/

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But think again, such attitude against China isn't shredded at all, even the US strategy was drawn attentions to Middle East since 2001. In 2002, USAWC published the reported about the post-911's tactical gains and strategic losses to China. As westerns believe the war on Middle East will remind China's 'actual' position in the world. Especially with this line:

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... _malik.pdf

Overall, the War on Terrorism has negated China’s foreign policy gains of the last decade, undermined its carefully crafted image as Asia’s only true great power, and energized the United States into playing a more assertive role internationally. While there is a broad consensus on crushing “the common scourge” of terrorism once and for all, serious differences exist between the United States and China (and others) on the ways and means of waging the War on Terrorism that could defeat the very objective of the war. Of all the major powers, China is the biggest loser because, unlike Russia, Japan, and India, it seems to be locked into a peer competitor relationship with the United States. Within a short period of six months, China’s world has been turned upside down. The War on Terrorism has unleashed a number of potentially threatening developments that could checkmate China’s strategic expansion moves and call into question predictions about China’s inevitable rise as the next superpower.

Yet...... look what is happening of both in and around China after 16 years...

[Scorpion86]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are bringing back (and upgrading) old SAM systems, including Goas, Kubs, Tors, Vegas and Grumbles.

(Google-translated) Source:
https://translate.google.pt/translate?s ... edit-text=

[Dysta]

The Diplomat chose Rick to be the editor for writing a news about Chinese future bomber program, a rare occurrence for Chinese military enthusiasts to be accepted by mainstream media.

https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/chinas- ... ber-fleet/

[kevinkins]

I don't expect a database entry any time soon:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20 ... aza-border

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

I don't expect a database entry any time soon:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20 ... aza-border

Mgellis (sp?) was suggested consumer quadropter in DB3000 as well, but still no news either.

Where's the judgement day when we really need those??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCd6P7Ya160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mHDDG3FCjs

[SunlitZelkova]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

If negotiators want to insult China, they better save their breathe. An expected disagreement seals the fate of trade war's encroachment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HenriKenhman ... 9102244864

I think demands like that are not aimed at trade war, but real war.

If the demands included that every Chinese should pay the US 1000 dollars a year and that China should stop STEM education at their universities, it wouldnt look out of place. Might also add the demand that China should import million tons of Opium per year from US-owned poppy fields in Afghanistan for good measure...

Demands like these arent "negotiating". Demands like these are typically followed by an ultimatum and threat of all-out war.

Looks like "Made in China 2025" really is the bane to the Western world. Understandable, since the entire West is threatened to loose their lifelihoods and markets once China can churn out comparable high technology at cheaper prices due to state support enabled by China's political and economic system. China would truly be a Japan+USSR on steroids, unstoppable by US enforced Plaza Accords (because unlike Japan, China isnt occupied by US troops), unable to be brought down by the lack of it's own ecoomic growth and lack of consumer goods (because unlike the USSR, China's economy isnt just growing, but the individual chinese purchasing power is also growing)... The sum of all western fears.

I have never found a statement I agree with more in my life. If only this forum had an "upvote" feature.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: FlyForLenin

I have never found a statement I agree with more in my life. If only this forum had an "upvote" feature.

I'd rather use "XXXXXX liked it" than numeric up/downvote system, Ars and ZH are prime examples how commenter and readers abused it with certain biases, without the ability to dispute the (un-)favor.

Some radical but still rule-abiding commenters have even punished by moderator's up/downvote manipulation on his/her post, so other commenters will accuse him/her a corporate troll (too many planted upvotes may draw doubts), or just a personal humiliation (a massive amount of downvotes even the readership is poor).

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Speaking of accusation, China posted two documents about US and Japan's underwater surveillance devices. One US UUV and one sonobuoy was spotted and salvaged by China in 2012 and 2015 near Hainan island. In 2013, China also salvaged a sonobuoy believed to be deployed by US or Japan near Qingdao military port. They are surveying Chinese naval activities, especially submarines. Those salvages is no doubt improving the Chinese naval counterintelligence drastically:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HenriKenhman ... 0661483520

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And China fired a gun first: Mass rejection against American fruit imports in the name of quarantine check.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1I428K
http://news.china.com/domesticgd/100001 ... 89594.html (simplified Chinese)

[kevinkins]

More today on potential USN carrier deployment plans:

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/ ... rd%20Brief

[Hongjian]

Oh my... This literally is an official chinese reaction to the (probably) upcoming B-21 reveal:
https://twitter.com/StrikeWriter/status ... 3240353792



Andreas Rupprecht's writeup:

https://www.facebook.com/61122384574837 ... 41/?type=3

[Hongjian]

http://www.eastpendulum.com/type-055-ty ... en-silence

Henri K.'s writeup on the new Chinese ships that have been quietly launched recently. All major milestones that deserve attention as they add significant capability boosts to the PLAN - and I'm not talking about the second Type 055 Cruiser/Destroyer, but the often ignored auxiliaries.

[Dysta]

The picture is from AVIC video with many other XAC-made military and civilian aircrafts:

https://youtu.be/zI9jHN0uREI

Some of them aren't in DB3000 like MA60, MA600/700 concept, ARJ21 and C919 (last two are from COMAC, but Xi'an does participate).

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The cancelation of Iranian nuclear deal triggered the major Obama/Trump debates around the world, but it doesn't matter to Israel and Iran anyway -- it will be far more convincing to say Iran want nukes and let them have it, and then declare war on the next day.

But, this will be the fourth front for the US Navy, are they ready?

https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... -iran.html

[xavierv]

Back from lots of travel (therefore unable to share news here)

Pictures: 1st Phase of French Navy Chesapeake Deployment in the United States

Since early April, nearly 350 French Navy sailors and their aircraft are deployed in the Norfolk area, home of the Carrier Air Wing 8. As the first (land-based) phase of Chesapeake mission 2018 comes to an end, the Marine Nationale (French Navy) released several pictures showing how its "sailors of the sky" maintain their skills and confirm their high level of interoperability with their American allies.

Picture gallery: https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... tates.html


Sea Fire digital radar for FTI frigate programme enters production

Thales is pleased to announce that the first Sea Fire radar for the French Navy’s FTI future medium-size frigates programme is now in production. The Sea Fire is fully solid-state multifunction radar with a four-panel phased array antenna. It is designed for roles ranging from ship self-defence to extended air defence, providing protection from conventional, asymmetric and emerging air and surface threats.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... ction.html

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

And China fired a gun first: Mass rejection against American fruit imports in the name of quarantine check.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1I428K
http://news.china.com/domesticgd/100001 ... 89594.html (simplified Chinese)

Now another victim -- US cars:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... O1?rpc=401&

[Hongjian]

J-20 driver with Striker-2/Cobra styled HMD with LED-based optical tracking system.




Helmet was unveiled some while ago in an internal exhibition. It has Augmented Reality-capability.

[Primarchx]

ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

Back from lots of travel (therefore unable to share news here)

Pictures: 1st Phase of French Navy Chesapeake Deployment in the United States

Since early April, nearly 350 French Navy sailors and their aircraft are deployed in the Norfolk area, home of the Carrier Air Wing 8. As the first (land-based) phase of Chesapeake mission 2018 comes to an end, the Marine Nationale (French Navy) released several pictures showing how its "sailors of the sky" maintain their skills and confirm their high level of interoperability with their American allies.

Picture gallery: https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... tates.html


Sea Fire digital radar for FTI frigate programme enters production

Thales is pleased to announce that the first Sea Fire radar for the French Navy’s FTI future medium-size frigates programme is now in production. The Sea Fire is fully solid-state multifunction radar with a four-panel phased array antenna. It is designed for roles ranging from ship self-defence to extended air defence, providing protection from conventional, asymmetric and emerging air and surface threats.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... ction.html

Nice to have you back!

[kevinkins]

The situation is heating up:

http://www.dw.com/en/israel-responds-to ... rd%20Brief

I would interested to read how the IDF gets it's damage assessment after a strike of that size.