CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - no devoncop please

[MikeJ19]

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

ORIGINAL: Szilard

This inspired me to actually RTFM to work out what goes on ...

Gotta understand TFM, too.

Section 9.1.10:

"Units of Formations failing a Formation Quality
Check at the beginning of a Turn are considered
to be Reorganizing and will only be available for
non-combat orders. They will accept all other
orders, and they will Defend normally, but are not
available for launching Attacks or Bombardments.
Formation Quality is the average of the
Formation’s Proficiency and average assigned
unit Quality. Formation Quality is reduced if
many units are divided. The Formation passes the
Quality Check if this value is greater than a random
number from 1 to 100, or [?? presumably this should be "and"]

Nope. Both checks must fail. This is combat reorganization - reorganization due to heavy combat. A formation that hasn't been in combat can't suffer combat reorganization.

if the number of units that
experienced severe combat results in the previous
Turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to
the number of units in the Formation."

So, if the formation has about 20 units, and, let's say 5 of them have had heavy combat losses, this check is 25% odds, too. Those two probabilities are multiplied together to get the true odds.


Curtis,

That makes sense, but I have had units that have not been in any combat for a couple of turns go into reorg mode. That should not be happening based on my understanding of the rules.

Thanks for your explanation, it is really helpful,

[Curtis Lemay]

ORIGINAL: MikeJ19

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

ORIGINAL: Szilard

This inspired me to actually RTFM to work out what goes on ...

Gotta understand TFM, too.

Section 9.1.10:

"Units of Formations failing a Formation Quality
Check at the beginning of a Turn are considered
to be Reorganizing and will only be available for
non-combat orders. They will accept all other
orders, and they will Defend normally, but are not
available for launching Attacks or Bombardments.
Formation Quality is the average of the
Formation’s Proficiency and average assigned
unit Quality. Formation Quality is reduced if
many units are divided. The Formation passes the
Quality Check if this value is greater than a random
number from 1 to 100, or [?? presumably this should be "and"]

Nope. Both checks must fail. This is combat reorganization - reorganization due to heavy combat. A formation that hasn't been in combat can't suffer combat reorganization.

if the number of units that
experienced severe combat results in the previous
Turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to
the number of units in the Formation."

So, if the formation has about 20 units, and, let's say 5 of them have had heavy combat losses, this check is 25% odds, too. Those two probabilities are multiplied together to get the true odds.


Curtis,

That makes sense, but I have had units that have not been in any combat for a couple of turns go into reorg mode. That should not be happening based on my understanding of the rules.

Thanks for your explanation, it is really helpful,

The other route to reorganization is via Shock penalties. For example, the CW in this scenario had a 4% shock penalty for a long time. Each turn 4% (on average) of the CW formations would go into reorganization via that method. That could be thought of as C & C issues.

[MikeJ19]

Curtis,

Okay, that makes sense too. Thanks for all the info and help.

Have a good day,

[warspite1]

Turn 209
16th September 1942

So the plan was to concentrate on just two hexes (with bombardments of three others + the taking out of the lone paratroop unit). I gambled on the turn not ending early to get three major bombardments in before attacking.

The airbase at Amiriya was used extensively to get my fighters closer to the action.

The air battles went in the CW favour (although not by much as they should have given the odds. There were few Me-109's and a lot of biplanes in those attacks but.....

The second hex was further to the south just out of shot but I can't get a picture of it as its end of turn.

[warspite1]

Turn 209
16th September 1942

The butchers bill. Not quite as damaging to the Axis as I'd hoped but hell I'll take anything positive at the moment!!

[warspite1]

Turn 210 - Axis Turn
19th September 1942

Only two bombardments from the Axis but they are pretty devastating on the CW artillery.

[warspite1]

Turn 210
19th September 1942

The victory conditions continue to slowly edge in the Allies favour but the Germans still have 249 points for objectives....

[warspite1]

Turn 210
19th September 1942

The aircraft situation seems to be good. Air superiority is 9 vs 3. I have 71 squadrons (although the actual equivalent in terms of aircraft is just 54) - and of these 71, 46 are operational. Reserves are significantly below the 300 mark now but replacement nos. remain healthy

[warspite1]

Turn 210
19th September 1942

I can't see any reorganisation troop formations so now its a case of deciding what to do. As before I will have to risk an early end to the turn in favour of trying to maximise bombardment rounds.

Firstly I noticed more German units leaving the area south of the Depression to join the defence up north. I move light forces in behind to try and get a reaction.

[warspite1]

Turn 210
19th September 1942

But I need to ignore shenanigans in the south. The coastal plain is - and has to be - the object of my main attention. The five hexes ringed will be the focus - and I hope at least two of these can be attacked before the turn end.

[MikeJ19]

Warspite,

You are making progress - it is slow, but Ian is a strong player.

Well done,

[warspite1]

Turn 210
19th September 1942

The turn ends with the CW having launched 13 bombardments and 3 attacks. All three attacks saw the enemy pushed back - and the two hexes west of El Hammam have been secured. I'm hoping that the airfield at Burg El Arab will be available soon.

The third attack was southeast of Alam Halfa and the CW edge closer to the ridge.

A pleasing thing here was that I rarely used the Kiwi's and the Greeks are being rested too. Let's look at what that cost:

Overall I have to be pleased with that - although the air war remains a total mystery to me....

[warspite1]

Turn 211 - Axis Turn
23rd September 1942

The Axis reacts (to a limited degree) to my commandos in the rear....

[warspite1]

Turn 211 - Axis Turn
23rd September 1942

A better turn for the Axis who hurt the CW artillery once again and evaporate a CW fighter squadron for the second turn in a row.

[warspite1]

Turn 211 - Axis Turn
23rd September 1942

The Germans have Alam Halfa Ridge well covered and have brought up units behind the front on the coastal road. There is at least two panzer battalions on the road.

[warspite1]

Turn 211
23rd September 1942

The victory swingometer heads back toward the Axis....

[warspite1]

Turn 211
23rd September 1942

According to the air table I have a 9 vs 2 air superiority (although that doesn't seem to mean anything - my Spitfires are the new Hurricanes i.e. the whipping boys). If possible I will try interdiction with my Wellington force - but that's for later. First things first will be more targeted bombardments of selected hexes with a view to attacking (if the turn continues) later.

[warspite1]

Turn 211
23rd September 1942

AAAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!! [:@]

After two bombardment rounds I made two attacks - one on the coast road was held back by panzer reinforcements, but the one to the south worked. But then - looking to exploit (the hex to the south of the road had been heavily bombarded too) I get a failed proficiency check....

Also, I've been acting as dad's taxi service to my little warspites and so have had interrupted thinking - and I completely failed to move my units south of the Depression.... [&:]

And I didn't get a chance to place my bombers on interdiction [:(]

But apart from that......[:D]

[warspite1]

Turn 211
23rd September 1942

Okay so what was the coast of that one hex gain?

Although I didn't capture the hex in the north the Axis lost a lot of tanks in its defence. Meanwhile I'm beyond bemusement with the air war - what comes after bemusement?

Such a shame I was denied the opportunity to mop up on the coast and possibly take the hex directly to the south that had been badly hit...

[700851McCall]

Your arty is all firing on red. You might as well throw rocks at them as do that.