So, does anybody have it yet?

Mike Bozyk · Post by **Mike Bozyk** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:12 am

I received my copy from GoGamer.com today. The price was the best I've seen as well - $39. Shipping brings it to $46 with two day FedEx.

I saw copies yesterday in a CompUSA in Michigan.

Mike

Mike Bozyk · Post by **Mike Bozyk** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:25 am

Actually, those prices I quoted above at GoGamer.com are closer to $40 and $47.

Mike

sol_invictus · Post by **sol_invictus** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:28 am

Well looks like UPS is going to screw me and ruin my weekend. I was all set to lounge in my recliner all day reading the manual; yeah I'm one of those people who loves reading manuals; and really getting knee deep in mud and blood tonight. Guess the war must wait.

sol_invictus · Post by **sol_invictus** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:50 am

Well not ten minutes after I gave up all hope and was cursing UPS to eternal damnation; the big brown truck pulls up outside. God bless you UPS!:D God I hope my ink cartridge holds out. Oh the travails of life.

bilbow · Post by **bilbow** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 3:02 am

Ordered it direct late Tuesday night, recieved today via UPS ground. EXCELLENT service!!

Tbone3336 · Post by **Tbone3336** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:16 am

Congrats guys! I hope you enjoy it as much as I am. I think there will be lots of years enjoyment with additional scenarios being planned at http://www.wargamer.com/wachtamrhein/
Enjoy.

BrubakerII · Post by **BrubakerII** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 5:13 am

Originally posted by Ross Moorhouse
... so it's on my H/D and ready to be of some assitance if it's needed.

Sure thats why Ross :p

By the way congratulations to you and Dave and the team - the waiting is always the hardest part.

Brubaker

Tbone3336 · Post by **Tbone3336** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:01 am

I was looking for a summary page that Summarizes all the victory sites,without having to click on each hex. TAO2 had a page that listed each town/Victory location and its current owner. Just wondering.

Tbone3336 · Post by **Tbone3336** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:49 am

Originally posted by Sonny
O.K. so lets here from you few who already have the game - how is it? what is cool about it? any problems so far?

First off there are 5 Scenarios including the full game along with the ardennes scenario, giving a total of six. The graphics are top notch. The amount of information available is very good however it is not overburdening with the way it is presented. One item I have asked about is a victory location summary page similar to the one in TAO. I may be missing it. The combat advisor tool is very nice indeed, when your strategy is set and your axis of advance is determined this helps making the choice of what units to attack much easier. While 5 scenarios to some will seem lite, I do beleive there is a lot of replay value in them along with the additional scenarios that are bound to be made by modder in the community. I have went through the lessons (I do recommend this as while the interface is familiar there are so much more information available there are more information that can be accessed), and am in my first scenario. I do not have much information to begin with personally about the battle so I am sure I will learn (and get my @ss handed to me) in my first battles. Overall I am impressed greatly so far.

Rob Gjessing · Post by **Rob Gjessing** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:20 pm

Whilst there is no objective summary screen that you ask for, there is a toggle to turn the objective markers on the map, so that you know which towns have VPs assigned to them. The right click pop ups for each of those objectives (victory locations) gives you alot of information - relating to VP's, Alert Points and which turns they are active for.

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:18 pm

While its not documented, those of you who want ot make additional scenarios might want to check out the Kosun_editor.exe file in the main folder

I know Chris Merchant is busy with it

sol_invictus · Post by **sol_invictus** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:09 pm

I've only had time to print the manual and read it last night. Aside from the fact that printing that cover page for the manual about gave my little personal printer a coronary,:D I must say that the manual is a top notch job. I mean twenty pages of campaign notes, woohoo! I just had enough time to play around with the game a few moments last night before I crawled off to bed at 2 a.m., but the interface seems crisp and flawless. The amount of information that you have at you fingertips and the ease of access is breathtaking. Guess I'll do the lessons tonight for the buildup to a proper game for Sunday. Great job guys on what looks like the Gold Standard for computer wargames.

Tbone3336 · Post by **Tbone3336** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 10:27 pm

I agree Arinvald, I am trying to post to as many people who I think would like this in the least trying to get them to try it. I have one copy on order for my brother that hasn't arrived yet and I just ordered another copy to pass onto a friend as a gift. I love the game system and will do Guerilla marketing for it if I have to, to insure other modules get made, it is that simple. There are alot of good games coming and this is the start of it. Titans of Steel hopefully is as good, lots of expendatures this month however it has been awhile since I bought games so I was prepared.

U2 · Post by U2 » Sat Aug 02, 2003 10:30 pm

Originally posted by Tbone3336
I agree Arinvald, I am trying to post to as many people who I think would like this in the least trying to get them to try it. I have one copy on order for my brother that hasn't arrived yet and I just ordered another copy to pass onto a friend as a gift. I love the game system and will do Guerilla marketing for it if I have to, to insure other modules get made, it is that simple. There are alot of good games coming and this is the start of it. Titans of Steel hopefully is as good, lots of expendatures this month however it has been awhile since I bought games so I was prepared.

I have been doing the same...months before it came out I started bugging opponents to buy this game so that we could play it PBEM....it worked with 4 people:D One asked if I was getting payed by Matrix to do it

Oh well 14 more days till I get my own copy

Snigbert · Post by **Snigbert** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 10:59 pm

Dan,

I just called around the stores and they said it will be here on 8/5 or 8/6. I'm going to pick up a copy then and if you like we can play some PBEM when your copy comes in. Should give me a week or so to practice so I'll have that edge over you.

U2 · Post by U2 » Sat Aug 02, 2003 11:11 pm

Originally posted by Snigbert
Dan,

I just called around the stores and they said it will be here on 8/5 or 8/6. I'm going to pick up a copy then and if you like we can play some PBEM when your copy comes in. Should give me a week or so to practice so I'll have that edge over you.

I would like that very much

I'll contact you once I get the Euro version

John Pancoast · Post by **John Pancoast** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 11:27 pm

Originally posted by Arinvald
I've only had time to print the manual and read it last night. Aside from the fact that printing that cover page for the manual about gave my little personal printer a coronary,:D I must say that the manual is a top notch job. I mean twenty pages of campaign notes, woohoo! I just had enough time to play around with the game a few moments last night before I crawled off to bed at 2 a.m., but the interface seems crisp and flawless. The amount of information that you have at you fingertips and the ease of access is breathtaking. Guess I'll do the lessons tonight for the buildup to a proper game for Sunday. Great job guys on what looks like the Gold Standard for computer wargames.

What size(megwise) are these files ? One of my peeves with cd docs.........if you don't have a zip drive, impossible to take to a kinkos, etc.

Fallschirmjager · Post by **Fallschirmjager** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 11:40 pm

Originally posted by John Pancoast
What size(megwise) are these files ? One of my peeves with cd docs.........if you don't have a zip drive, impossible to take to a kinkos, etc.

Take the CD

Or you can order the printed PDF from the matrix/kinkos e-doc store when it becomes avalible

John Pancoast · Post by **John Pancoast** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:34 am

Originally posted by Fallschirmjager
Take the CD

Or you can order the printed PDF from the matrix/kinkos e-doc store when it becomes avalible

Ah, thanks for the info., definately going to buy the pdf from the site, didn't know about that.

Re taking a cd, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of the PzC games; can't take the cd, with only the original non-patched docs. in, when the info. is updated with each patch, and those files are in the game folder on the hard drive.

John

Nickel · Post by **Nickel** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 6:47 am

I printed the PDF. If you start at page 5- Contents and finish on page 48- last of Battle History. 44 pages, not too bad. Player guide comes with the game and basically covers the tutorials.

So, does anybody have it yet?

Victory Objectives