Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
1st-15th July 43
Nothing of interest to report.
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
16th July - 6th August 43
A much busier period. By region:
Burma: He restarts his air campaign with a vengence. The P47 makes it debut with 100 sweeping the sky over Rangoon, my Oscars were stood down so I'm thinking I got lucky....then the B24s show up and destroy 110 on the ground[:(] To be fair I probably would have lost as many in the air had they been up and at least most of the pilots survived. Since then I have mostly left them flying low % CAP as losses to his sweeps seem lighter for some reason. He quickly switches all his bombers to attack Toungoo as this is where his mega stack of troops ends up. I get lucky one day as he sweepers arrive after his bombers and I down almost 100 2E bombers, but that was a rare bright spot in the air. His first deliberate attack:
Ground combat at Toungoo (57,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 196449 troops, 3331 guns, 3508 vehicles, Assault Value = 8095
Defending force 92891 troops, 1052 guns, 2484 vehicles, Assault Value = 3049
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Allied adjusted assault: 8674
Japanese adjusted defense: 11441
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3589 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 304 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 60 disabled
Guns lost 176 (20 destroyed, 156 disabled)
Vehicles lost 151 (15 destroyed, 136 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
16877 casualties reported
Squads: 128 destroyed, 1576 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 342 disabled
Engineers: 58 destroyed, 362 disabled
Guns lost 312 (12 destroyed, 300 disabled)
Vehicles lost 245 (25 destroyed, 220 disabled)
Assaulting units:
7th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
18th British Division
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
9th Indian Division
255th Armoured Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
7th Australian Division
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
6th Australian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
26th Indian Division
2nd British Division
1st New Chinese Corps
11th Indian Division
22nd (East African) Brigade
5th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
25th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
9th Australian Division
2nd Indian Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
It looks like he is going to have to bomb me out of supply to force me to retreat. I have a large convoy with 250k supply enroute from the homeland, it is due to arrive in about 10 days so hopefully I can prolong this seige for a few more weeks at least.
Marshalls/Cenpac: He take Eniwetok without any interference from me but then goes for Ponape. With no sign of his CVs in the area I did not commit the KB, but my Nettys from Truk do well putting 2 torps into the CVEs Anzio and Corregidor which were covering his invasion. Between mines and the CD unit on Ponape I take a chunk out of his shipping, sinking a couple of DDs and leaving numerous CAs and DDs on fire. Meanwhile a TF of old DDs meets a bombardment fleet before it can unload on the island:
Day Time Surface Combat, near Ponape at 119,113, Range 29,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 2
DD Amagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Fumizuki, Shell hits 1
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Nagatsuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Shell hits 1
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2
BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits 2
BB Nevada
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1
BB Idaho
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi
DD Sims
DD Dewey, Shell hits 1
DD Worden, Shell hits 2
DD Dale, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
The 2 torp hits on West Virginia prove critical and she is finished off by a sub the next day[8D]
He gets 3 units with about 300AV ashore but my garrison holds long enough to allow me to get a spare div sitting at Truk to Ponape, so he will have to land more there if he wants to capture it. To round off a stinging defeat for the USN my Nettys finish off the two crippled CVEs and a sub sinks the CA Chicago (damaged in the invasion) in sight of Pearl Harbour. So that's an old BB, 2 CVEs a CA plus several DDs confirmed sunk, for a cost to me of two old DDs and about 30 a/c[&o]
Elsewhere
He is sweeping Rabual regularly and gets between 2:1 and 3:1 in kills, which I can still live with at the moment as long as the pilots keep bailing out to fight another day[:D]
Lots of shipping at Port Moresby, I think he may be making a move in the Timor area very soon.
A much busier period. By region:
Burma: He restarts his air campaign with a vengence. The P47 makes it debut with 100 sweeping the sky over Rangoon, my Oscars were stood down so I'm thinking I got lucky....then the B24s show up and destroy 110 on the ground[:(] To be fair I probably would have lost as many in the air had they been up and at least most of the pilots survived. Since then I have mostly left them flying low % CAP as losses to his sweeps seem lighter for some reason. He quickly switches all his bombers to attack Toungoo as this is where his mega stack of troops ends up. I get lucky one day as he sweepers arrive after his bombers and I down almost 100 2E bombers, but that was a rare bright spot in the air. His first deliberate attack:
Ground combat at Toungoo (57,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 196449 troops, 3331 guns, 3508 vehicles, Assault Value = 8095
Defending force 92891 troops, 1052 guns, 2484 vehicles, Assault Value = 3049
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Allied adjusted assault: 8674
Japanese adjusted defense: 11441
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3589 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 304 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 60 disabled
Guns lost 176 (20 destroyed, 156 disabled)
Vehicles lost 151 (15 destroyed, 136 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
16877 casualties reported
Squads: 128 destroyed, 1576 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 342 disabled
Engineers: 58 destroyed, 362 disabled
Guns lost 312 (12 destroyed, 300 disabled)
Vehicles lost 245 (25 destroyed, 220 disabled)
Assaulting units:
7th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
18th British Division
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
9th Indian Division
255th Armoured Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
7th Australian Division
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
6th Australian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
26th Indian Division
2nd British Division
1st New Chinese Corps
11th Indian Division
22nd (East African) Brigade
5th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
25th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
9th Australian Division
2nd Indian Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
It looks like he is going to have to bomb me out of supply to force me to retreat. I have a large convoy with 250k supply enroute from the homeland, it is due to arrive in about 10 days so hopefully I can prolong this seige for a few more weeks at least.
Marshalls/Cenpac: He take Eniwetok without any interference from me but then goes for Ponape. With no sign of his CVs in the area I did not commit the KB, but my Nettys from Truk do well putting 2 torps into the CVEs Anzio and Corregidor which were covering his invasion. Between mines and the CD unit on Ponape I take a chunk out of his shipping, sinking a couple of DDs and leaving numerous CAs and DDs on fire. Meanwhile a TF of old DDs meets a bombardment fleet before it can unload on the island:
Day Time Surface Combat, near Ponape at 119,113, Range 29,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 2
DD Amagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Fumizuki, Shell hits 1
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Nagatsuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Shell hits 1
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2
BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits 2
BB Nevada
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1
BB Idaho
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi
DD Sims
DD Dewey, Shell hits 1
DD Worden, Shell hits 2
DD Dale, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
The 2 torp hits on West Virginia prove critical and she is finished off by a sub the next day[8D]
He gets 3 units with about 300AV ashore but my garrison holds long enough to allow me to get a spare div sitting at Truk to Ponape, so he will have to land more there if he wants to capture it. To round off a stinging defeat for the USN my Nettys finish off the two crippled CVEs and a sub sinks the CA Chicago (damaged in the invasion) in sight of Pearl Harbour. So that's an old BB, 2 CVEs a CA plus several DDs confirmed sunk, for a cost to me of two old DDs and about 30 a/c[&o]
Elsewhere
He is sweeping Rabual regularly and gets between 2:1 and 3:1 in kills, which I can still live with at the moment as long as the pilots keep bailing out to fight another day[:D]
Lots of shipping at Port Moresby, I think he may be making a move in the Timor area very soon.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
But look at the date...ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.
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Back to the future?
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ORIGINAL: witpqsBut look at the date...ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.
July 10, 2018, so Myanmar and vicinity?
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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The date in the screen pic! [:D]ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
ORIGINAL: witpqsBut look at the date...ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.
July 10, 2018, so Myanmar and vicinity?
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
I am only 3 comments from quads so pardon the lack of meaningful content, the date is 7 December, 1941.
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Yes, you have just witnessed my first ever successful capture and post of a screenshot on this forum. It's only taken me 14 years to learn how to do it[:D]
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
December 7, 1941. So Burma and vicinity. Wait, I already said that.....
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Time to put my new skill to use:
Overall score

As you can see, the points gap is rather small for this stage in the game. This is mainly due to 3 things:
1) He is kicking my arse in the air. Not much you can do when 75% of army sqds are still stuck with the Oscar and all my navy sqds still have the Zero. I have researched the N1K1 George and have 200 in the pool but no sqds can upgrade to them yet.
2) China. He has defended well here. If I had managed to force my way through to Chunking I would have around 7-8k extra VPs in troops losses, but that ain't going to happen now....
3) He builds all his bases up to the max, even ones that will never come into play for the rest of the game. A good way to get easy VPs.
Please note that VPs don't interest me at all, I will play on when he gets auto victory unless I have nothing left to play with.
Overall score

As you can see, the points gap is rather small for this stage in the game. This is mainly due to 3 things:
1) He is kicking my arse in the air. Not much you can do when 75% of army sqds are still stuck with the Oscar and all my navy sqds still have the Zero. I have researched the N1K1 George and have 200 in the pool but no sqds can upgrade to them yet.
2) China. He has defended well here. If I had managed to force my way through to Chunking I would have around 7-8k extra VPs in troops losses, but that ain't going to happen now....
3) He builds all his bases up to the max, even ones that will never come into play for the rest of the game. A good way to get easy VPs.
Please note that VPs don't interest me at all, I will play on when he gets auto victory unless I have nothing left to play with.
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Industry

My HI pool is on the low side but otherwise not looking to bad I think.

My HI pool is on the low side but otherwise not looking to bad I think.
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Major warship losses, mine:


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His:

Enterprise and a couple of the cruisers are unlikely to have been sunk. He has also lost about 30 DDs.

Enterprise and a couple of the cruisers are unlikely to have been sunk. He has also lost about 30 DDs.
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Congratulations! Now to work on capturing the current game... [:D]ORIGINAL: Miller
Yes, you have just witnessed my first ever successful capture and post of a screenshot on this forum. It's only taken me 14 years to learn how to do it[:D]
Adding: Oh, look - you did it already! [&o]
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
That's an amazingly small list of Japanese ships sunk.
But it's also a frighteningly small list of Allied ships sunk. Pretty soon, the Allies can put together a Death Star and go wherever they want, knowing that any opposing Japanese force will get eaten alive.
This looks like an unusual and mutual "avoid contact at all costs" game that, in the long run, should highly favor the Allies.
What do you think, Paul?
But it's also a frighteningly small list of Allied ships sunk. Pretty soon, the Allies can put together a Death Star and go wherever they want, knowing that any opposing Japanese force will get eaten alive.
This looks like an unusual and mutual "avoid contact at all costs" game that, in the long run, should highly favor the Allies.
What do you think, Paul?
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Burma:

The red line shows my current defensive position. He has a mega stack at Toungoo with about 8000 raw AV against my 3000AV. Forts currently at 4 and he is bombing almost everyday to try and get me out of supply. Plenty of supply inbound very soon from the mainland. He has virtually no naval assets in this area (that I have seen).

The red line shows my current defensive position. He has a mega stack at Toungoo with about 8000 raw AV against my 3000AV. Forts currently at 4 and he is bombing almost everyday to try and get me out of supply. Plenty of supply inbound very soon from the mainland. He has virtually no naval assets in this area (that I have seen).
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China:

This has been the position here for about 6 months now. My offensive stopped when he pushed me south in Burma and got the supply rolling into China. We are both well dug in and I doubt there will anything of note going on here until 44.

This has been the position here for about 6 months now. My offensive stopped when he pushed me south in Burma and got the supply rolling into China. We are both well dug in and I doubt there will anything of note going on here until 44.
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SOPAC:

He has most of the bases on this screenshot built up to the max and has been sweeping Rabual occasionally. I have 250 fighters there and even though I take higher losses I am stopping him from sending his 4E bombers in for fear of them arriving before his sweeps. One turn I managed to down about 30 B17/24 and they have not been back since.
Rabual is well mined, has about 500AV in troops and 6 forts, so it would be a very tough nut to crack. Kavieng has about 150AV behind 5 forts. Gasmata and Manus have token defences only.

He has most of the bases on this screenshot built up to the max and has been sweeping Rabual occasionally. I have 250 fighters there and even though I take higher losses I am stopping him from sending his 4E bombers in for fear of them arriving before his sweeps. One turn I managed to down about 30 B17/24 and they have not been back since.
Rabual is well mined, has about 500AV in troops and 6 forts, so it would be a very tough nut to crack. Kavieng has about 150AV behind 5 forts. Gasmata and Manus have token defences only.
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