Fall Weiss II - AAR KZ vs Crispy

[crispy131313]

Thanks for the comments on the mod, I try to fix typos as I see them it’s hard to catch them all.

Just to comment on the Norwegian garrisons, I had made the British a similar decision event to occupy Norway, the catch is the British have to capture Oslo manually (and faster then Germany) and the rest of the invasion will follow suit. Because the amphibious operations and naval skirmishes are completed by the player it is cheaper for Britain to select this event, but it’s riskier.

[Sugar]

The value of Norway is much higher than the convoy afaik, should be 5 x 5 from the mine, 5 from Oslo, and another 24 x 1,25 from towns (as shown) = 60 MPP/turn + convoy. Increasing GB's income while reducing Germany's doubles the value.

Do norw. Partisans also effect the Brits?

[crispy131313]

The UK are receiving Convoy's from Narvik at around 30 MPP per turn, I do not think we are getting any more MPP then that. The Norwegian Partisans trigger regardless of which side has occupied the country.

[KorutZelva]

ORIGINAL: Sugar

The value of Norway is much higher than the convoy afaik, should be 5 x 5 from the mine, 5 from Oslo, and another 24 x 1,25 from towns (as shown) = 60 MPP/turn + convoy. Increasing GB's income while reducing Germany's doubles the value.

Do norw. Partisans also effect the Brits?

Yes and no. Attacking Norway also reduces the USA-USSR readiness. It's a bit of a spending power transfer from them to the UK. Since the convoy to Germany can be interdicted for a long time, at least until it can spare a maritime bomber to protect the shorter convoy line (which can take a long time because they are often kept busy elsewhere).

Finland got a bit more spending power from it but they are so poor you can't really notice.

[Sugar]

I do not think we are getting any more MPP then that.

Why should that be the case? Every occupied country adds their income to the ocupying nation, why not Norway? Not to gain those MPPs would make an invasion pontless.

[crispy131313]

The convoy is the income, I am quite sure that’s how it works.

[Sugar]

7.19. Resource MPP values The following tables outline the MPP values assigned to resources in 1939 Storm over Europe, though the exact values may vary in other campaigns: Category 1: UK, France, USA, Germany, Italy, and the following Minors: Belgium, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, British Empire, Netherlands, Switzerland and Vichy France.

Norway and Sweden are as Category 2 except that their Mines provide 5 MPPs per strength point. Iraq, Persia, Saudi Arabia and Transjordan are all as per Category 2 except that their Towns and Fortified Towns do not provide income. note: Certain Convoy and Resource events provide the means to increase a country’s MPPs beyond the total value of resources it directly controls

[crispy131313]

May 1940

Germany has played it's hand diplomatically. With recent events driving Sweden closer to the Axis it is not very surprising to see German diplomatic efforts directed this way. Spain and Greece were other plausible diplomatic targets. Interestingly Sweden could have been even further Axis leaning at this point had KZ chosen changed his decision event tree.

Italy has joined the war this turn as Belgium is about to capitulate.

[KorutZelva]

ORIGINAL: crispy131313

May 1940

Germany has played it's hand diplomatically. With recent events driving Sweden closer to the Axis it is not very surprising to see German diplomatic efforts directed this way. Spain and Greece were other plausible diplomatic targets. Interestingly Sweden could have been even further Axis leaning at this point had KZ chosen changed his decision event tree.

Italy has joined the war this turn as Belgium is about to capitulate.

Yeah I regretted taking the Swedish money in finland but I didn't expect such a bump in Axis leaning after Norway fall. I figured that if it didn't move after war declaration, it wouldn't move at all! [X(]

[crispy131313]

May 1940

The French are being routinely handled by the German Blitzkrieg, perhaps too quickly. German raiding has been very quiet with the exception of some mining of the Halifax port over the winter. The Axis are neck deep into diplomatic efforts now, having spent a combined 450 MPP on what appears to be directed entirely towards minors. Italy scored a hit towards Spain moving the nation to 65% Axis leaning. While the UK is benefiting from Norwegian and Portuguese income it has opened up windows of opportunity for the Germans to form new alliances in Europe.

[KorutZelva]

I've kept my paratrooper busy sending the half-strength one right in the thick of combat two turns after capturing Amsterdam. They allowed me to isolate French troops east of Verdun and make an almost uncontested march to Paris. Given that I didn't buy extra troops for my France offence getting to Paris in June would be a very satisfactory result. I might lose one of the two paratroopers but it would still be worth it. While it looks dire for the little guy at str 2, he might still be saved as the French readiness tanked and they weren't able to dent it last turn.

[crispy131313]

Spoiler alert, the paratroopers are dead.

[KorutZelva]

France holds on for an extra turn, evacuating the government to Bordeaux.

Shux. [:D]

[KorutZelva]

Vichy France installed, with all colonies siding with the Maréchal over the Général. French planes or HQs were not encountered for the duration of the invasion so either they were sold off or were stashed somewhere for an offensive. Perhaps in Spain?

Diplohit with Sweden. Maybe in time they can be convinced to drive the perfidious albions out of Scandinavia and into the North sea. [:'(]

[crispy131313]

July 1940

The UK does not recognize Vichy France and attacks the Vichy French Fleet in Algeria. The British have threatened to blockade Spain in an attempt to bring Franco back from the brink of madness, which has upset the Americans. Spain was at 78% and that should slightly reduce. The British continue to hold strategic bases in Norway, Portugal and Egypt and will surely meet the Germans on the battlefield again soon. France fought poorly I admit and the Axis happy time has begun.

[KorutZelva]

Sealow is a go, Dover is seized. OKW makes the gamble that with operations in Norway, Egypt and possibly Spain, the British will be overextended. Seizing London would be a diplomatic coup in continental Europe...

[crispy131313]

July 28, 1940

The B.E.F. make their presence known (we are home on the isle!) and quickly steam forward to meet the Germans head along the Southern gates of London. This will be a very bloody fight should KZ commit. All is quiet in North Africa as neither Italy or British soldiers march.

[KorutZelva]

Yeah I was caught by surprise the additional mobilisation events when Sealion happens (Canada, US). I hope you increased the reward to balance it out! [:'(]

[crispy131313]

ORIGINAL: KorutZelva

Yeah I was caught by surprise the additional mobilisation events when Sealion happens (Canada, US). I hope you increased the reward to balance it out! [:'(]

The only new script that triggered on sea lion so far is a some under strength conscripts at Birmingham, the other mobilizations scripts are from vanilla.

[crispy131313]

August 11, 1940

Germany continues to press for London, while Italy advances on the British in North Africa. Germany thus far has not been raiding convoy's at sea in 1940.