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Greece? What's there but sun & water? [8D]

Well ...

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Calamari
Tsiprio (greek grappa)
My snorkel
Alpha, Fix, and Mythos (Greek beer)

There is a bit of sun and water too!

Funnily enough, I'm staying in an Admiral's House. All of his memorabilia is on the walls. Judging by his hat collection, he's done some stints on the USS Independence, the USS Dwight D Eisenhower, and a few other navy's ships. I see a picture of what looks like a Sumner class with an upgrade that the Hellenic Navy had several of in the post war era.

A lot of cool stuff around the house. I'll take some pics to post soon.

Hydra, the island we're on, was the major base for the Greek Navy at various points in its history. There is a great museum here with a lot of uniforms and old ship models, etc.



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Mid-Sept is when first of many Fletchers arrive! [&o][&o]

I tend to use the Bristol Class as CV escorts.

Yes, looking forward to that!!

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Erik has been trying out his new Speedo bathing suit. His wife is most impressed, no doubt.

I burn too easily for that!!

I'm much more likely to be seen swimming in long trucks AND a tee-shirt in this kind of sun!! Helps hide the growing accumulation of extra beer baggage as well. [;)]
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Greece? What's there but sun & water? [8D]

Well ...

Feta
Calamari
Tsiprio (greek grappa)
My snorkel
Alpha, Fix, and Mythos (Greek beer)

There is a bit of sun and water too!

Funnily enough, I'm staying in an Admiral's House. All of his memorabilia is on the walls. Judging by his hat collection, he's done some stints on the USS Independence, the USS Dwight D Eisenhower, and a few other navy's ships. I see a picture of what looks like a Sumner class with an upgrade that the Hellenic Navy had several of in the post war era.

A lot of cool stuff around the house. I'll take some pics to post soon.

Hydra, the island we're on, was the major base for the Greek Navy at various points in its history. There is a great museum here with a lot of uniforms and old ship models, etc.




And real filo dough. Although there are a couple of places here where I could go get some...
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Greece? What's there but sun & water? [8D]

Well ...

Feta
Calamari
Tsiprio (greek grappa)
My snorkel
Alpha, Fix, and Mythos (Greek beer)

There is a bit of sun and water too!

Funnily enough, I'm staying in an Admiral's House. All of his memorabilia is on the walls. Judging by his hat collection, he's done some stints on the USS Independence, the USS Dwight D Eisenhower, and a few other navy's ships. I see a picture of what looks like a Sumner class with an upgrade that the Hellenic Navy had several of in the post war era.

A lot of cool stuff around the house. I'll take some pics to post soon.

Hydra, the island we're on, was the major base for the Greek Navy at various points in its history. There is a great museum here with a lot of uniforms and old ship models, etc.




And real filo dough. Although there are a couple of places here where I could go get some...

Yes! For making Spanikopita!
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The title is from the book. Although the original uses a serial comma. [;)]

There is a full copy on biblio I just found. I paid for it on Kindle, which is not bad at about £ 3.50, but the hardback is listed anywhere form £80-200! [X(]

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/BBBO/

I like reading a book about naval logistics in the Pacific War written by the admiral who actually ran Fleet logistics from 43-45. [:)]

I know I'm late to the thread, but a great little book. I have a hard copy version.
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The title is from the book. Although the original uses a serial comma. [;)]

There is a full copy on biblio I just found. I paid for it on Kindle, which is not bad at about £ 3.50, but the hardback is listed anywhere form £80-200! [X(]

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/BBBO/

I like reading a book about naval logistics in the Pacific War written by the admiral who actually ran Fleet logistics from 43-45. [:)]

I know I'm late to the thread, but a great little book. I have a hard copy version.

Nice! Such an important and little appreciated part of the war. In this campaign it's turned out very differently than I'd envisioned when I started, but no less important. I've tried a lot of new ways to get the goods to the front lines and so far the machine is humming. Very odd not to be convoying very much across the Pacific though.
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[font="Times New Roman"]August 11, 1942[/font]
Turns have been slow since getting back form Greece in this one. The invasion at Quinhon is solidified and troops are moving toward Cam Ran Bay on the NE coast and overland from Pnom Pen to Saigon. The KB is sitting at Samah. Looks like it's recharged and ready, but not sure what he'll try to do with it.

The Allied CVs move back and willl support landings close to Bangkok. He has some fighters there and I've sent in some preliminary amphibs to lure an airstrike. Two Brit CAs are shepherding the first troops in with some LR CAP for cover.

Most of the USN HQs, including Pacific Fleet and So Pac just landed at Kompong Trach! I also brought the big naval base force HQ as well. All of these are slated for the Indochinese ports once their taken.

Some Dutch refugees and a Marine Raider Battalion repel another attack at Beaufort. I hope to give them some help soon.
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Ground combat at Beaufort (66,87)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5192 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 202

Defending force 2425 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Japanese adjusted assault: 31

Allied adjusted defense: 85

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
167 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion
302nd Ind.Infantry Battalion
41st Naval Guard Unit
48th Naval Guard Unit
4th/A Div /2
23rd Port Unit
32nd Port Unit

Defending units:
VII KNIL Battalion
1st Marine Raider Battalion
Makassar KNIL Cdo
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
35th Avn Sup
HQ TC Borneo

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Ground combat at 50,74 (near Georgetown)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12751 troops, 267 guns, 239 vehicles, Assault Value = 628

Defending force 1363 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 47

Allied adjusted assault: 199

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 39 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1001 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (4 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
143 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
26th Indian Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
132nd Infantry Regiment
Kowloon Brigade
10th LH Cav Regiment
18th Australian Brigade
2/5th Armoured Regiment
17th Australian Bde /2
2/2nd Hy AA Regiment
2/13th Fld RAA Regiment
Aus II Corps
2/9th Fld RAA Regiment
2/11th Fld RAA Regiment
New Guinea Force
97th Field Artillery Battalion
21/22 Field Arty Regiment

Defending units:
3rd RTA/A Division

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Ground combat at 65,70 (near Quinhon)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1789 troops, 0 guns, 258 vehicles, Assault Value = 373

Defending force 1119 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 42

Japanese adjusted defense: 11

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
670 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 5 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (7 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
Units pursuing 4

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
46th Indian Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2/8th Armoured Regiment
27th Australian Brigade
205th Coast AA Regiment
6th Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
Kure 5th SNLF
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Here is a map of what's going on. The Japanese have about 7k troops at both Saigon and Cam Ran plus what look like base forces at some other nearby inland bases, like Bien Hoa. More and more Allied troops pour into Lompong Trach, with others on the way to Patani to make the crossing. I'm hoping the move to near Bangkok will force him to consider a pull back from Burma. We'll see.

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[font="Times New Roman"]August 12, 1942[/font]
A few surprises. The IJN forays out with Katori to try and disrupt unloading at Kompong Trach. The RN engages, gets a few hits, but she still gets to transports for a shot. Only gets one hit on a transport, but then disengages and retires.

On the other side at Quinhon some DDs get to the base and hit mines, then a few hit the PTs. Two Will have a longer trip home. [;)]

Not much else to report.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kompong Trach at 57,70, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Katori, Shell hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Devonshire
CA Exeter, Shell hits 2
DD Arunta
DD Isaac Sweers
DD King
DMS Zane
DMS Perry

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 0% moonlight: 2,000 yards

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TF 263 encounters mine field at Quinhon (65,69)

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Quinhon at 65,69, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Harusame
DD Oite
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
PT-31
PT-33
PT-36
PT-37
PT-40, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-44

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 0% moonlight: 2,000 yards

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TF 278 encounters mine field at Quinhon (65,69)

Japanese Ships
DD Oite, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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[font="Times New Roman"]Nov 13, 1944[/font]
A good day for the Allies. The BBs hit Bangkok hard and get about 40+ planes on the ground. This sets up the CAP later to defend nearby transports and also renders Bangkok inoperable for strikes the next day.

The transports unload at Chanthaburi, near Bangkok, and the IJN Vals sortie. The CAP treats them roughly, with 19 Vals and 7 escorting A6M3 lost on the day.

Troops get one hex closer to Cam Ran Bay, and the two armor units at Chanthaburi will head out tomorrow to cut the rail one hex out of Bangkok. The US ID is nearing Bien Hoa. The CVs will move to Kompong Trach to replenish and refuel, and transports will begin to load for a Philippine resupply effort.
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Submarine attack near Samah at 69,63

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 10

Allied Ships
SS KXIII, hits 16, on fire, heavy damage

SS KXIII is located by SC Ch 10
KXIII bottoming out ....
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Night Naval bombardment of Bangkok at 56,62

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 26 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 7 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 10 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M3 Zero: 30 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 9 destroyed on ground
H6K4 Mavis: 8 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 11 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-15-II Babs: 4 damaged
Ki-15-II Babs: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 8 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 damaged
Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 2 damaged
Ki-57-I Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
CL Katori, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BB North Carolina
DD Monaghan
DD Aylwin
DD Clark
DD Stack
DD Bancroft
DD Buchanan

Japanese ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Refinery hits 1
Manpower hits 7
Heavy Industry hits 1
Light Industry hits 4
Fires 3730
Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 43
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Walrus II acting as spotter for BB Prince of Wales

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Chanthaburi at 56,65

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 22
D3A1 Val x 16

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
Martlet II x 7
F2A-3 Buffalo x 1
F4F-3A Wildcat x 3
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 5 damaged


Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed


Allied Ships
CA Devonshire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Chanthaburi at 56,65

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 8
D3A1 Val x 7

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
Martlet II x 3
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed


No Allied losses

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Ground combat at 64,71 (near Cam Ranh Bay)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1829 troops, 0 guns, 261 vehicles, Assault Value = 386

Defending force 1046 troops, 16 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Allied adjusted assault: 100

Japanese adjusted defense: 10

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
553 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 6 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Units pursuing 3

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/8th Armoured Regiment
1st USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
46th Indian Brigade
27th Australian Brigade
205th Coast AA Regiment
6th Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
Kure 5th SNLF
3rd JAAF AF Coy

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It looks like there are some decent troops at Kompong Chang. I'll sit tight and wait for another ID at Pnom Penh, and move up from Chantaburi. Hopefully this will get another group of IJA units slightly encircled.

It looks like the Val strike came from Battambang, a level 2-3 field on the rail between Bangkok and Kompong Chang. I've got recon heading there tomorrow, and have some CAP moving into Chathaburi.

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Congrats on the coup at Chanthaburi!
I keep marvelling at the logistics that enables you to replenish BBs and CVs at newly conquered Kompong Trach already and also load troops for an invasion in the Philippines! I have no idea how you can keep the supply chain following your rapid-fire invasions. I am guessing that playing the Japanese side for so many campaigns has given you a skill for operating on the razor's edge - well done! [&o]
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Congrats on the coup at Chanthaburi!
I keep marvelling at the logistics that enables you to replenish BBs and CVs at newly conquered Kompong Trach already and also load troops for an invasion in the Philippines! I have no idea how you can keep the supply chain following your rapid-fire invasions. I am guessing that playing the Japanese side for so many campaigns has given you a skill for operating on the razor's edge - well done! [&o]

Well, thanks, but it's really just being single minded in this case, I think. Not sure how another player would have set things up if they kept Singers as the Allies in this stage, but all I've thought about since it became secure is working off of that success and being able to take advantage of any opportunities quickly.

I've also committed sacrilege by bringing the entire USN Pacific command and SW Pacific to Indochina! [;)]

(I even have two MacCarthurs, as the one in Manila is still there, and the one that arrives with SW Pacific is with part of that unit still in Singers). [:D]

As for logistics, that is the name of this game, and so I was already thinking in those terms from day one. I knew I wanted a lot of supply to move through Cape Town to OZ, and that led to an easy route to the DEI as well. Now every new unit arriving in CONUS heads to East Coast and on to Cape Town. I'll be completing the first Marines soon with the last regiment, now in Colombo.

If I can get there, the move to the Philippines will be more of a supply drop, with only a few AA units, a couple of regiments, some armor and some base forces adding in to the already plentiful forces there. The Japanese have only shown two IDs on Luzon, and I see a third with recon, but I think that's it. There is a chance to move fast and get around them to the North or West coast, and I'll just leave a holding force in Manila to try that out. With supply though I can continue to build forts and also flesh out the Philippine troops even more. I can also fly in air groups!
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[font="Times New Roman"]August 14, 1942[/font]
Well, the KB looks ready to rumble again. It's moved out from Samah and is now a few hexes off of Cam Ran Bay. I have no idea what Lowpe is contemplating, which worries me, but if the KB is out here, it's looking for trouble. I set all valuable TFs to move to bases with CAP, sent extra CAP to all SW Indochina bases, and I'll place the Fleet one hex off of Kompong Trach to hopefully get support form the LBA there and at Rachgia as well as some form Soc Trang.

The Allied CV strike power is still limited, but the CAP is strong and diverse, with a good high CAP and solid middle CAP planes. I've added the BBs and a CA to the CV TF so it now has 25 ships and 18k flak .[;)]

There is an Indian ID unloading at Kompong, a Brit ID heading up the Malaya coast toward Patani, an Indian armoured brigade loading at Patani and two PI bound TFs scurrying back to Singers just in case. The US Army should take Bien Hoa tomorrow. Allied forces will invest Cam Ran and bombard next turn.

The KB and BBs wound their way through a lot of subs leaving Samah, and now all of those will shift to pursue, as well as 12 more recently patched up, refueled and upgraded that have been at Singers. One of these days I should get a lucky shot on a CV.
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ASW attack near Samah at 69,65

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo
BB Hyuga
BB Fuso
BB Nagato
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CS Chiyoda
DD Amatsukaze
DD Kazegumo
DD Sawakaze
DD Yunagi
DD Uzuki
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

SS Tuna launches 4 torpedoes at DD Yugumo
Tuna diving deep ....

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ASW attack near Samah at 70,64

Japanese Ships
TB Otori

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

SS Porpoise is sighted by escort
Porpoise bottoming out ....

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ASW attack near Samah at 69,67

Japanese Ships
PB Kyo Maru #6
PB Shonon Maru #11

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-109

SS ShCh-109 is located by PB Kyo Maru #6

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ASW attack near Samah at 69,67

Japanese Ships
PB Shonon Maru #11
PB Kyo Maru #6

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

SS Sargo is located by PB Shonon Maru #11

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ASW attack near Samah at 69,66

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Fuso
BB Nagato
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CS Chiyoda
DD Amatsukaze
DD Kazegumo
DD Sawakaze
DD Yunagi
DD Uzuki
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
SS L-19

SS L-19 is sighted by escort
L-19 diving deep ....

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Sub attack near Balabac at 70,84

Japanese Ships
AKE Kokuryu Maru
DMS W-14

Allied Ships
SS S-45, hits 3

SS S-45 launches 2 torpedoes at AKE Kokuryu Maru
DMS W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Quinhon at 65,69

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-118, Shell hits 1
TM-11, Shell hits 1
PT-122, Shell hits 2
PT-125, Shell hits 2
PT-119
PT-121

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x A6M3 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

TM-11 dead in the water ...

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Ground combat at 52,76 (near Kota Bharu)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7824 troops, 103 guns, 117 vehicles, Assault Value = 549

Defending force 8322 troops, 64 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 64

Allied adjusted assault: 175

Japanese adjusted defense: 105

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
497 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
191 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
182nd Infantry Regiment
13th Australian Brigade
5th Marine Regiment
17th Australian Brigade
150th RAC Regiment

Defending units:
Ichiki Det.
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company
27th JAAF AF Bn
11th Special Base Force
5th Field Construction Battalion
93rd JAAF AF Bn
51st JNAF AF Unit
36th Const Co
23rd Air Flotilla
17th Army
104th Ship Eng Coy
C/50th JNAF Coy
B/50th JNAF Coy
III/124th Infantry Bn /4

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CRB - Do you have any CD units there or headed there? Lowpe may use that BB/CA TT to bombard your troops there to slow down the conquest. .
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CRB - Do you have any CD units there or headed there? Lowpe may use that BB/CA TT to bombard your troops there to slow down the conquest. .

Chanthaburi has a Marine Defence battalion. A CD unit is at Kompong Trach, and Quinhon has 300 mines plus about 15 PT boats and a few CD guns on a base force.

Some of the RN base forces come with CD guns, and most of the ones I've installed on Sumatra and Java chokepoints will be moved soon, but not quite yet! [:)]
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Japanese ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Refinery hits 1
Manpower hits 7
Heavy Industry hits 1
Light Industry hits 4
Fires 3730
Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 43
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

All that plus a hit on a CL. North Carolina and PoW certainly spread the wealth around!
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A)

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Congrats on the coup at Chanthaburi!
I keep marvelling at the logistics that enables you to replenish BBs and CVs at newly conquered Kompong Trach already and also load troops for an invasion in the Philippines! I have no idea how you can keep the supply chain following your rapid-fire invasions. I am guessing that playing the Japanese side for so many campaigns has given you a skill for operating on the razor's edge - well done! [&o]

Well, thanks, but it's really just being single minded in this case, I think. Not sure how another player would have set things up if they kept Singers as the Allies in this stage, but all I've thought about since it became secure is working off of that success and being able to take advantage of any opportunities quickly.

I've also committed sacrilege by bringing the entire USN Pacific command and SW Pacific to Indochina! [;)]

(I even have two MacCarthurs, as the one in Manila is still there, and the one that arrives with SW Pacific is with part of that unit still in Singers). [:D]

As for logistics, that is the name of this game, and so I was already thinking in those terms from day one. I knew I wanted a lot of supply to move through Cape Town to OZ, and that led to an easy route to the DEI as well. Now every new unit arriving in CONUS heads to East Coast and on to Cape Town. I'll be completing the first Marines soon with the last regiment, now in Colombo.

If I can get there, the move to the Philippines will be more of a supply drop, with only a few AA units, a couple of regiments, some armor and some base forces adding in to the already plentiful forces there. The Japanese have only shown two IDs on Luzon, and I see a third with recon, but I think that's it. There is a chance to move fast and get around them to the North or West coast, and I'll just leave a holding force in Manila to try that out. With supply though I can continue to build forts and also flesh out the Philippine troops even more. I can also fly in air groups!

+1

Its so early that the USN has not yet started to load up on all the new ships...

But given the focus of this campaign .. do you have anything going on in the Marshalls?

It might be be nice to route supplies from West CONUS to the Philippines ? But can you escort them through a gauntlet ?
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Congrats on the coup at Chanthaburi!
I keep marvelling at the logistics that enables you to replenish BBs and CVs at newly conquered Kompong Trach already and also load troops for an invasion in the Philippines! I have no idea how you can keep the supply chain following your rapid-fire invasions. I am guessing that playing the Japanese side for so many campaigns has given you a skill for operating on the razor's edge - well done! [&o]

Well, thanks, but it's really just being single minded in this case, I think. Not sure how another player would have set things up if they kept Singers as the Allies in this stage, but all I've thought about since it became secure is working off of that success and being able to take advantage of any opportunities quickly.

I've also committed sacrilege by bringing the entire USN Pacific command and SW Pacific to Indochina! [;)]

(I even have two MacCarthurs, as the one in Manila is still there, and the one that arrives with SW Pacific is with part of that unit still in Singers). [:D]

As for logistics, that is the name of this game, and so I was already thinking in those terms from day one. I knew I wanted a lot of supply to move through Cape Town to OZ, and that led to an easy route to the DEI as well. Now every new unit arriving in CONUS heads to East Coast and on to Cape Town. I'll be completing the first Marines soon with the last regiment, now in Colombo.

If I can get there, the move to the Philippines will be more of a supply drop, with only a few AA units, a couple of regiments, some armor and some base forces adding in to the already plentiful forces there. The Japanese have only shown two IDs on Luzon, and I see a third with recon, but I think that's it. There is a chance to move fast and get around them to the North or West coast, and I'll just leave a holding force in Manila to try that out. With supply though I can continue to build forts and also flesh out the Philippine troops even more. I can also fly in air groups!

+1

Its so early that the USN has not yet started to load up on all the new ships...

But given the focus of this campaign .. do you have anything going on in the Marshalls?

It might be be nice to route supplies from West CONUS to the Philippines ? But can you escort them through a gauntlet ?

Very early on I took Tabituaea in the Gilberts, and I can negotiate a route that moves close to Canton Island relatively safely. Once the real Allied surge of troops and materials begins to come taking the Solomons, parts of New Guinea and some of the Gilberts and Marshalls will be easier than in most games, as neither of us have focused on these historical areas of interest.

I'm moving on Singkawang now, from Sambas, and I'd like to get another base on the NW corner of Borneo so I can protect the LOC from Singers to Luzon, but I'll also be moving on Balikpapan soon if all goes well in the Saigon area. That division is about 5o% prepped for Balikpapan. I still hold Macassar, Kendari and Ambon, so if I can begin to allocate some units to those bases it'll put the squeeze on from both ends.
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