Matrix's Surviving WON...

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Sun Sep 24, 2000 10:09 am

Originally posted by moore4807:
Grok- good job heading him over here... Maybe though we should start a new thread with a clear concise heading about what we want to do here, until Matrix gets a chance to go over this and set something up....(pending the approvals-of course!)

I was thinking the same thing...You have a good idea about the club thing..why not call the new topic "Club Matrix"? Or if anyone else has something in mind...?

Also, got to thinking more about the club and what Marc suggested as well and have come up with a few more "refinements"(more on that at a later time).

Gene

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Sun Sep 24, 2000 10:44 am

Originally posted by VictorH:
I had posted a message I listed on the message forum at Talonsoft at another reply on this forum and GROK asked me to post here.

I am a wargamer and a programmer. A wargamer since I was 12, started with Avalon Hills 1914, now 43. A programmer since I was 20. Work as a Project Manager, Network Engineer and Research Technology for Software purchases. I am willing to help anyway I can.

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Thanks for posting here Victor, if we can keep suugestions and comments centralized, it will be much easier for everyone. BTW: Don't stop with just your qualifications, if you have any input please post it, every idea has merit, and it may even help someone else form another idea off it

Gene

VictorH · Post by **VictorH** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 1:44 am

Here are a few ideas I have for game topics. First, I like the idea of a WWII game in the vein of a game called "High Command", originally published by Colorado Computer Creations, then bought by 360(who went out of business). A second idea is one similar to that posted on another Topic. That is a game on the Colonial Period. I played a boardgame many years ago called Pax Britannica by Victory Games. It would be a great model for a computer wargame, multi- player, diplomacy, naval actions, and land action. The other idea I had again from anothe topic would be a WWI game. I suggest something similar to an old Strategy & Tactics magazine game called WWI.

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laurent Favre · Post by **laurent Favre** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 3:39 am

One stupid idea: Matrix could sell scenario packs for SPWAW like Novastar did.

I don't play SPWAW much ( CM) but I would buy these packs.

moore4807 · Post by **moore4807** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 3:54 am

Originally posted by laurent Favre:
One stupid idea: Matrix could sell scenario packs for SPWAW like Novastar did.

I don't play SPWAW much ( CM) but I would buy these packs.

I dont think Matrix could do that with the agreements they have with Mattel/SSI. It would be SWEET to have a deal struck with SSI for add ons, for obvious reasons (call it clawhard, anybody??? <grin>) Just Kiddin!

laurent Favre · Post by **laurent Favre** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 4:03 am

Originally posted by moore4807:
I dont think Matrix could do that with the agreements they have with Mattel/SSI. It would be SWEET to have a deal struck with SSI for add ons, for obvious reasons (call it clawhard, anybody??? <grin>) Just Kiddin!

Why? Scenarios are useless without the game so I don't see the reason Mattel/SSI would oppose.And even if royalties should be payed, Matrix would earn money.

moore4807 · Post by **moore4807** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 4:04 am

Originally posted by Grok:
Thanks for posting here Victor, if we can keep suggestions and comments centralized, it will be much easier for everyone. BTW: Don't stop with just your qualifications, if you have any input please post it, every idea has merit, and it may even help someone else form another idea off it

Gene

Ditto that here too Victor,
Gene and Marc and I seem to be co-ringleaders of this so far and MOST heartily welcome everyone to these postings, The more people in the team, the more the team is able to do. Keeping Matrix Games in the black (cashflow) and making great games and experiences for us wargamers seems to be the primary purpose here. Jump in folks-Waters Warm!

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 4:53 am

Hi, I had this idea on another post and
Victor H suggested I should post this idea at this location. My idea is a strategic/
tactical level military game. It would start
out as a strategic level game such as TOAW
(corps/divison/brigade level). Once the forces became engaged, there would be the option to conduct the battle at the battalion+ level using the SPW@W format. Just think, you have a corps or a division
doing stategic manuever and then at the point of engagement you have the option of going tactical at battalion to squad level
as we do in SPW@W.
Thanks
Semper Fi
Randy

VictorH · Post by **VictorH** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 5:09 am

The Ashton Virus has struck Talonsoft's Message Board. The post I put out there yesterday has mysteriously dissapeared. It's the post I list on the "Matix vs. Talonsoft" topic on this forum. Funny that out of the 6 posts only mine was deleted by the Virus.

Looks like Talonsoft is digging it's own grave. Once this sort of behavior gets around the wargame forums on the net, no one will buy Talonsoft games anymore.

"I love the smell of Napalm in the morning. It smells like VICTORY"!

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VictorH · Post by **VictorH** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 6:44 am

Laurent, I noticed you had posted to the same site on Talonsoft that I had, before being Purged by the Ashton Virus. I responded back to you.

I'm sure Matrix will do well in the future with the help of the folks that post on these forums. There are many that can contribute.

Has Matrix considered partnerships with other wargame publishers such as: Forgotten Fronts and Schwerpunkt?

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laurent Favre · Post by **laurent Favre** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 1:32 pm

Originally posted by VictorH:
Laurent, I noticed you had posted to the same site on Talonsoft that I had, before being Purged by the Ashton Virus. I responded back to you.

I'm sure Matrix will do well in the future with the help of the folks that post on these forums. There are many that can contribute.

Has Matrix considered partnerships with other wargame publishers such as: Forgotten Fronts and Schwerpunkt?

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Victor,

I wanted to show soem posts ( not only your) were deleted. I replied to you by essentially explaining the policy at BTS board when moderators strongly disagree with a post. Since BTS opened it, a handful of people have be banished, each after many second chances offered by BTS. And they don't delete posts, they close threads. They don't fear public appraisal.

I would want to see all these small companies sharing some tasks. Maybe by cooperation some costs ( manual printing, packaging, online orders delivery) could be reduced. I don't know if it's possible but many small comapnies in Europe do that.

laurent Favre · Post by **laurent Favre** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 3:15 pm

Proposal:

-create a board whose access is given by a subscription.

- this board will be a forum where members will discuss the design of a game.

- features will be discussed. A group of moderators will transform this discussions in proposals.

- members will vote on these proposals. When a majority of members will have adopted a proposal, it will become a feature of the game.

I don't know if the project is realist. It would be fun howewer to see if democraty can be used for a game design.

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 3:36 pm

I was just wondering if you have ever thought about a wargame about the great nordic wars?

Br

Steve Hosfield · Post by **Steve Hosfield** » Mon Sep 25, 2000 4:57 pm

I've always thought a grand Stratgic WWII game played in real time would be great. You would plan unit movements, aggressiveness, then have your local commanders take over. Emmense dempolicy here as you'd have cope with Patton/Montgomery rivally, how to handle the Russians, when to invade SU if it all, focusing on N. Africa or the latest Soviet Offensive.

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Tue Sep 26, 2000 10:56 am

Hello guys,

Everyone has posted good ideas...and believe it or not the guys at Matrix are reading them. So don't stop now, keep them coming.

ANY idea is welcome, it doesn't have to be about a game, it can be anything that's gaming related or that you belive would help the guys at Matrix out. These suggestions are not just for the financial benefit of Matrix, but for your gaming benefit as well.

Thanks again fellow gamers and you all too Matrix guys.

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understanding requires patience

Grok

laurent Favre · Post by **laurent Favre** » Tue Sep 26, 2000 12:54 pm

Another idea...

Matrix owns the right of some Kamikaze wargames, intended to be enhanced ( no AI, sounds,etc).

Why not sell one (without the Matrix enhancements) with source code under a license giving the possibility either to release non commercial products or commercial one against royalties?

Many subjects will never be covered in computer wargame fields. Much of them wouldn't sell beyond some hundred boxes.

of course, some could think it would hinder commercial companies by adding new competitors. But I feel differently: many of us will have never time to do a complete project and by extension several. These games will remain technically inferior to the commercial ones. Last, the best of these part-time designers could get one foot in the hobby, choose to go to the commercial side. The wargaming hobby would at least know the same diversity than in the boardgame field and the raise of titles would strenghten the interest for the hobby and then in the last the income of commercial projects.

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Ed Cogburn · Post by **Ed Cogburn** » Tue Sep 26, 2000 5:32 pm

Originally posted by Steve Hosfield:
I've always thought a grand Stratgic WWII game played in real time would be great. You would plan unit movements, aggressiveness, then have your local commanders take over. Emmense dempolicy here as you'd have cope with Patton/Montgomery rivally, how to handle the Russians, when to invade SU if it all, focusing on N. Africa or the latest Soviet Offensive.

As I understand things, you just described "Road to Moscow". I'm a bit leery of "real-time grand strategy", though. We're up to our necks in "real-time" crap right now. But if its designed the way I read "Road to Moscow" is designed, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

bpolarsk · Post by **bpolarsk** » Tue Sep 26, 2000 6:37 pm

Sorry to remind than RTM is not a wargame but a vaporware.

VictorH · Post by **VictorH** » Tue Sep 26, 2000 7:13 pm

GROK: I apologize for not being at last nights Chat. The cable guy was working on my cable TV connection and killed my cable modem right at 5:30. It still doesn't work. I'm using my work machine right now.

I agree with Ed, there are too many realtime games and I to think they are mindless crap. I suggested in a previous post, Matrix do something like the old computer game High Command as a WWII Grand Strategic game.

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Grok · Post by **Grok** » Tue Sep 26, 2000 9:56 pm

Hi Victor,

Its not a problem, I've sent you some material to your email address, just email me when you have recieved it.

Gene