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fab168
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Sea path to amphibious target is blocked

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Hello,

I get this message "Sea path to amphibious target is blocked" and the AI can't seem to invade for D-DAY, is it a bug or wad ?

The AI didn't get a foothold in Italy, so maybe it has messed up the AI ?
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Here is the save if that's helpful
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That may indeed be an AI problem due to messing up italy.
I see several Amphibious HQs station in England but still assigned to Mediterranean AFHQ and 1-2 of them in Med but assigned to UK Home Forces HQ (Shouldn't thsi be SHAEF?). Some assignement problems with Naval support groups may be possible with 2 to TF 85 but none to TF 'O'.
I can only assume the AI tries to land in France with Med Amphib HQs and in Italy with England Amphib HQs

What's the version the game was started with an which version are you running now ?

EDIT: Also strange to see the 15th (AAI) BR Army Group attached to itself thus having an invalid HHQ setting.
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It looks like the AI is moving the amphib HQs back to the Med. It would be good to know what version you started this game with. Sorry for the problem.
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Thanks for your reply. I'm playing 1.02.15
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Can you post a save from early January 1944.
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Here is the save,1st of january 44.

I 'm almost happy to have a bug, so i can take the occasion to say a big thank you for this game.

Well, i sinked nearly a week of holidays in it, but....that was good time
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Found an older AI vs AI test of GC43 with 1.01.72, although it did not run into 1944 and had properly invaded italian mainland, starting in mid 11/43 the 15th (AAI) BR Army Group started to be attached to itself instead of AFHQ.
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I've added the 15th AG bug to the list as I saw it as well and repeated it. It's not likely the cause of the problems above, but should be looked at.

As for the game from above, I'm afraid that even if Gary figures out what scrambled the AI's brains in late 43/early 44 that kept Italy from being invaded, it won't fix the current game. It's likely the AI is not going to manage to invade Europe. Every so often we see a report of the AI not invading in Italy. It's rare, but it has happened in the past. Several of these situations have been fixed, but it still seems that some rare conditions can cause the AI to fail to invade. If Gary gets a fix in for this, then the game can probably be picked up from back in late 43. We'll post there if/when we get a fix.
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Actually the AI invaded Italy and was pushed back.

Thank anyway if you ever get a fix.
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Is this still a bug? Managed to kick the allies from Sicily (well almost), but either way no invasion of Italy. Getting the above error message which suggests D-day not going to happen
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No new attempt was made to fix this issue (it would be very hard to fix without potentially breaking other parts of the AI), so yes I'd say the potential for an Allied AI meltdown is still there. If you attach a save I'll take a look and see if I can tell what's going on. It sounds like you stopped it at Sicily, which may be the cause of the meltdown in your case, but I'd have to see some saves. AFAIK, the Allied AI is not able to adapt to major setbacks. We should wave the white flag for the AI in these cases.
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No worries, Ill just have to be a bit more gentler on the AI [:)]
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