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[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Cheechako

Question - why does the LRASM have an active seeker?

All the reports I've read is that it has a passive RF seeker with an IIR. So it would essentially be emission silent.

I am not sure if LRASM does have it either. But if that is real, my speculation is for terminal phrase guidance. It's impossible to stay silent within horizon range, and IR cannot guarantee to find the correct target by its own.

[Vulcan607]

Loadout for the F4F phantom get the SPS 141 Gvozdika ECM

https://makettinfo.hu/forum/image.php?i ... front_ajpg

[Dysta]

Some Improvised Freefall Ordinances for helicopters:

https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/statu ... 4351421441

[Cheechako]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: Cheechako

Question - why does the LRASM have an active seeker?

All the reports I've read is that it has a passive RF seeker with an IIR. So it would essentially be emission silent.

I am not sure if LRASM does have it either. But if that is real, my speculation is for terminal phrase guidance. It's impossible to stay silent within horizon range, and IR cannot guarantee to find the correct target by its own.

Well it does have a datalink for mid course updates. That, plus passive RF, plus IIR should be enough to get it on target.


Right now if you use them against anything modern, they get lit up at 10nm once the active seeker turns on. E: compared to the NSM with just IIR, it often closes to under 2NM before detection, and at that point it's in terminal maneuver combined with OODA - very low chance of intercept.

https://www.militaryaerospace.com/artic ... nches.html

The company added passive emitters and an electro-optic endgame sensor, and made structural changes necessary to launch the LRASM from the Mk 41.

[Dragon029]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: Cheechako

Question - why does the LRASM have an active seeker?

All the reports I've read is that it has a passive RF seeker with an IIR. So it would essentially be emission silent.

I am not sure if LRASM does have it either. But if that is real, my speculation is for terminal phrase guidance. It's impossible to stay silent within horizon range, and IR cannot guarantee to find the correct target by its own.

According to Tyler Rogoway, the LRASM has an active radar seeker, but only uses it for initially locating ships / groups of ships. It then supposedly goes passive-only and uses passive RF + IR to home in on a specific impact point on a specific ship.

However, most other articles claim that the LRASM operates entirely passively. The closest thing I can find to an official document supporting the notion that the LRASM has an active radar is a Lockheed brochure where it says "LRASM will also employ active and passive survivability features to penetrate advanced integrated air defense systems."
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/ ... asm-pc.pdf

I'm not sure that active in that context means an active emitter though; it could potentially be referring to active / proactive avoidance of pop-up threats (manoeuvring around them).

[Styx3]

Echo I and Echo II class submarines can launch missiles when submerged in cwdb and db300.

For what i know its not possible because echo class submarines where famous for launching missiles whan surfaced. Charlie I class where designed to launch missiles submerged. After a little trial with all databases i noticed that all the submarines designed to launch cruise missiles surfaced can launch cruise missiles submerged.

[gbethel]

Marine Protector-class patrol boat and Sea PROTECTOR MK50

At least some of the Marine Protector-class patrol boat has Sea PROTECTOR MK50 mounted. Photos show the mount on the USCGC_Sea_Devil_(WPB-87368). The database says that Marine Protector-class patrol boat has 2 x M2 .50cal. Sea PROTECTOR MK50 mount has a gyro-stabilized mount with built in EO sensor. Supposedly Sea PROTECTOR MK50 is mounted on US Navy ships also but I am unable to confirm which ships.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Pr ... atrol_boat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_(RWS)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CROWS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Sea ... WPB-87368)

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... racts.html

https://seawavesmagazine.blogspot.com/2 ... l?spref=tw

https://www.kongsberg.com/en/kog/news/2 ... e-us-navy/

[ARCNA442]

Minor correction. The F 812 Jacob van Heemskerck frigate (and it's Chilean version, FFG 14 Almirante Latorre) should have a 16 round magazine for Sea Sparrow rather than the 8 round magazine it currently has.

[DWReese]

Could the USS Jimmy Carter please be given Docking Boats capabilities? (See the article below.) Also, could some additional UUVs be added? There doesn't seems to be very many options available. I realize that much of this is likely subjective because no hard data exists about some of these UUVs, but a revised generic platform could be helpful.

Thanks again.

Here is the link:

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-n ... 1699659302

Doug

[gbethel]

Please add Darussalam-class offshore patrol vessel for Brunei.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darussala ... rol_vessel

[maple61]

F 221 Regele Ferdinand [Type 22 Batch 2] – Romania (Navy), 2005
• Add 76mm/62 OTO Super Rapido (ID 216) on bow (replaced 4x MM 38 Exocet SSM).
• Two (3?)7.62mm MG (ID 439) pedestal mounted MG. One (or two?) on hanger roof and one in front of bridge. (same locations as removed Seawolf mounts)
• Add two (port and starboard, behind bridge) 12.7mm/50 remote weapon stations. Romania uses Agil system. 12.7mm/50 STAMP (ID 2050) is basically identical.
• All other Royal Navy guns removed. (2x 20mm GAM-B01 and 2x 30mm GCM-AO1)
• Added two (port and starboard) Terma DL-12T SKWS DL (ID 1259)
• Retained 2x 324mm PMW-49A TT Triple torpedo tubes, but with Sting Ray Mod 1 (ID 1365).
• Retained Type 967M/968 air/surface search radar (ID 3440).
• Retained UAK Outboard [AN/SSQ-108(V)1/2] HF/DF (ID 866) (?).
• Retained UAT-6 Sceptre XL ELINT (ID 998) (?).
• Boards 1 x IAR-330L Puma [Naval Mod]. Change hangar to 1 x Medium Aircraft to make this possible.
• http://e-amyna.com/decision-on-t22r-fri ... l-pending/
• http://www.mapn.ro/10_ani_NATO/media/19%2003%202014.pdf (Page 19+)
• http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AbN5Zx2NRM4/U ... 600/13.JPG
•

The two frigates were purchased from the United Kingdom in 2003 for £116 million, as part of NATO integration efforts. The agreement included the reactivation of the ships to operational condition and NATO standard, an initial modernization to meet the specific requirements of the Romanian Navy and a significant Operational Sea Training programme through the Royal Navy’s Flag Officer Sea Training organisation (FOST).

Under the Phase 1 modernisation, both frigates were equipped with an Oto Melara 76/62 Super Rapid gun fitted forward where the 4 x MM-38 Exocet had been mounted, two locally developed Agil 12.7 mm remote weapon stations, a new fire control system based on the AMS NAUTIS 3, a Series 2500 Naval electro-optical system by Ultra Electronics, the Terma DL-12T decoy system with 12 tubes, a new torpedo decoy system, the BAE Systems MPS2000 communications system, an Inmarsat B global maritime distress and safety system, the Sperry Marine Mark 39 ring laser gyro compass and the LMX 420 global positioning system. The flight deck was modified to be able to embark an IAR-330 Puma anti-submarine helicopter and a total of 18 Sting Ray Mod 1 light-weight torpedoes were also purchased.

The Phase 2 upgrade was initially scheduled for 2008 but has been continuously delayed due to lack of funding. With a total budget of RON839 million ($197 million), the international tender, published on March 2016, includes the supply and installation of a new Combat Management System, surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles, a close-in weapon system (CIWS), a 3D surveillance radar, an improved electronic warfare suite and a towed sonar. The potential contractors are Lockheed Martin Canada Inc, DCNS, Leonardo SpA and the STM / ASELSAN / HAVELSAN / CSR consortium.


IAR-330L Puma [Naval Mod]
• Missing Generic FLIR (3rd Gen, Surveillance) (ID 1727)
• Missing Generic ESM [Advanced] (ID 1593)
• Has Telephonics RDR-1500B Radar (ID 1974) in chin radome (added 2011).
• Sonobouys added in 2013
• Stingray torpedo added in ?
• http://www.bizbrasov.ro/2015/10/27/un-e ... isubmarin/
• http://rumaniamilitary.files.wordpress. ... dinand.jpg
• https://www.rumaniamilitary.ro/radarul-de-pe-puma-naval
maple61

[Mgellis]

If it has not yet been requested, please consider adding the Hunter-class frigate, which will enter service as part of the Australian navy in 2027...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-class_frigate
http://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boat ... future/ffg

[Broncepulido]

On the Romanian Naval Puma, ASW torpedoes were added only from September 2015.
Apparently from start was also equipped with depth charges BAE-1 UMTohan 45 Kg, SIM-100 dipping sonar and radar RDR-1500B.

Sources:
http://www.rumaniamilitary.ro/radarul-de-pe-puma-naval

http://www.rumaniamilitary.ro/un-elicop ... a-varianta

http://www.rumaniamilitary.ro/iar-ghimb ... puma-naval (Stingray torpedo delivery date)

http://www.aripi-argintii.ro/aparatdezbor.php?p=52

[SeaQueen]

Russian Orlan-10 drone.

https://www.airforce-technology.com/pro ... hicle-uav/
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... ft_id=1877
https://www.uasvision.com/2015/08/19/ru ... in-combat/
http://dronecenter.bard.edu/files/2016/ ... ia-CSD.pdf

[templar42]

All versions of the SA-5c as of build 475 seem to have the Square Pair FCR set as an Air-to-Air radar. This doesn't seem to stop the battery working, but I think it should be changed to Surface-to-Air nevertheless.

[anlgzl]

Hi all,

Do you have any plan to add "HÜRKUŞ-C" Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance aircraft for Turkey ?

[Bashkire]

I requested this to go into the change list a while back but I don't know if it actually got added to the list (the link in the OP is now defunct. Is there a new spreadsheet that we can log onto to see the change list?):

UK Type 45 class:
Please add davits for boat operations. The Type 45 class has 2 boat bays for 1 Pacific 24 RHIB each.

UK Type 23 class:
Please add davits for boat operations. The Type 23 class has 2 boat bays for 1 Pacific 24 RHIB each.

UK Queen Elizabeth class:
Please add davits for boat operations. The Queen Elizabeth class has 5 boat bays that allows for 2 Pacific 24 RHIBs and 3 Passenger Transfer Boats.

Also, please allow for the above 3 units, as well as the Albion class LPDs, to embark cargo. Part of the QE class's role is to enable helicopter assaults with her EMF. She can carry approximately a company's worth of Royal Marines in addition to her ship's company and embarked air assets.

UK Pacific 24 RHIB:
Length: 7.8 meters
Beam: 2.6 meters
Speed: 38 knots
Range: 150 nm at 30 knots
Crew: 2
Passengers: 6
Variants: Boarding operations (6 sailors / marines with kit, plus 1x GPMG mounted to the fore)
Search and Rescue: 2 passengers (1x medic, 1x sailor) and room for 2 - 3 stretchers
Routine / Ferry / Passenger Transfer: 6 passengers


Thank you.

[anlgzl]

Hi all,

İs it possible to add a hypothetical unit like "sea apache" to database ?

[orca]

ORIGINAL: SuaveWatermelon

Howdy

Request to add Israel's Iron Dome, David's Sling, and SPYDER to the DB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David%27s_Sling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPYDER

Also, could you guys add some of Iran's many different Drone platforms (I know there isnt much on most of them but then again there isnt much on the J-31 or X-47 so maybe?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohajer_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karrar_%28UAV%29

etc.

2nd request for David Sling missile system with Stunner missile

System is now operational and has been used in combat:
https://www.defensenews.com/smr/space-m ... by-israel/


additional info:
https://www.army-technology.com/project ... or-israel/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David%27s_Sling

Stunner missile (called SkyCeptor) to be part of Poland Patriot missile system:
https://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/p ... or-patriot
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-b ... iles-17620

Proposed Stunner/SkyCeptor Missile:
similar characteristics ( size, target altitude and speed, Air Poh, properties, signatures, datalink) as Patriot MSE (#3209)

Range: 160km
Max cruise Speed: Mach 7.5
Propulsion: Multistage rocket boost/sustainer
Sensor: aesa active radar (2010s) + EO/IR
Warhead: Kinetic (hit to kill)

[KLAB]

RHIB'S for consideration as important ISTAR assets please?


https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/ri ... table-boat
http://zodiacmilpro.com/
https://www.ribcraftusa.com/
http://www.willardmarine.com/applicatio ... boats.html

Based on an amalgam of numerous country specific RHIB's,could we consider a modification of the existing DB civilian Pirate RHIB's and have just a few "Generic" non country specific Naval RHIB's please?
With the baseline Naval models available in the DB it would speed up scenario creation without having to create bespoke RHIB's from the civil versions every time.
More country specific RHIB's could be fine tuned if required in the editor with sensors and weapons fits?

Naval RHIB (7m - Basic)
Length: 7.5m
Width: 2.5m
Draft: 0.6m
Full Displacement: 3t
Crew: 2 + 4 passengers.
Cargo 0.5t
Armament: 1 x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds](The equivalent of an armed boarding party)
Sensors: Mk1 Eyeball
Speed: Creep 5kts Cruise 15kts Full 20kts Flank 30kts.
Range: 150nm @ 20kts.
Fuel capacity: 100litres.
Propulsion: 2 x Diesel, + Waterjet.
Armour: Nil
Comms: UHF/HF Radio Unsecure

Naval RHIB (7m - Enhanced) (This would suit the majority of the better equipped/financed Navies at least?)
Length: 7.5m
Width: 2.5m
Draft: 0.6m
Full Displacement: 3t
Crew: 2 + 4 passengers.
Cargo 0.5t
Armament: 1 x 7.62mm GPMG (Pintle Mounted for AA/ASuW)
Sensors: Mk1 Eyeball, Generic Navigation Radar, Generic Night Vision Goggle (3rd Gen).
Speed: Creep 5kts Cruise 15kts Full 30kts Flank 40kts.
Range: 150nm @ 30kts.
Fuel capacity: 100 litres.
Propulsion: 2 x Diesel, + Waterjet.
Armour: Nil
Comms: UHF/HF Radio Secure, GPS, SATCOM (SAT-phone)

Naval RHIB (7m- SF)
Length: 7.5m
Width: 2.5m
Draft: 0.6m
Full Displacement: 3t
Crew: 2 + 6 passengers.
Cargo: 0.5t
Armament: 2 x 7.62mm GPMG (Pintle Mounted for AA/ASuW)
Sensors: Mk1 Eyeball, Generic Navigation Radar, Generic Night Vision Goggle (3rd Gen)/Thermal Imaging.
Speed: Creep 5kts Cruise 15kts Full 30kts Flank 40kts.
Range: 150nm @ 30kts.
Fuel capacity: 100 litres.
Engine: 2 x Diesel, + Waterjet.
Armour: 5.56mm frontal arc.
Comms: VHF/UHF/HF Radio Secure, GPS, SATCOM (SAT-phone)

Naval RHIB (11m)
Length: 11m
Width: 3.2m
Crew: 2 + 10 passengers.
Draft: 0.6m
Full Displacement: 9t
Cargo: 1.5t
Armament: 1 x 7.62mm GPMG (Pintle Mounted for AA/ASuW)
Sensors: Mk1 Eyeball, Generic Navigation Radar.
Speed: Creep 5kts Cruise 15kts Full 30kts Flank 40kts.
Range: 200nm @ 30kts.
Fuel capacity: 180 litres.
Engine: 2 x Diesel, + 2 X Waterjet.
Armour: Nil
Comms: VHF/UHF/HF Radio Secure.

Naval RHIB (11m - SF)
Length: 11m
Width: 3.2m
Crew: 2 + 10 passengers.
Draft: 0.6m
Full Displacement: 9t
Cargo: 1.5t
Armament: 2 x 7.62mm GPMG 1 x HMG (Pintle Mounted for AA/ASuW)
Sensors: Mk1 Eyeball, Generic Navigation Radar, Generic Night Vision Goggle (3rd Gen) /Thermal Imaging.
Speed: Creep 5kts Cruise 15kts Full 30kts Flank 40kts.
Range: 200nm.
Fuel capacity: 180 litres.
Engine: 2 x Diesel, + 2 X Waterjet.
Armour: 5.56mm Frontal Arc.
Comms: VHF/UHF/HF Radio Secure.GPS, SATCOM (SAT-phone).

Many Thanks,

K