I would echo Erik's comments.
As you move into '45, HI wants to be converted to useful outcomes … VEH/ARM definitely are high priority. So if my target is for 6M HI at 1/1/45, that means 25 - 35% of that should actually be in the form of ARM/VEH already. NSY/MSY are likely already shutdown, or close to it. That leaves the balance (~65) for AC/Eng builds … ~3.2M HI => ~50,000 1E aircraft equivalent builds. Depending upon your 1E/2E/4E ratios, that should be something like 32,000 aircraft for the last 18 months … at least that's the plan … [8D]
Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Fuel and Oil I have shipped religiously since the start, about 1/4 of my TK fleet is lying idle due to lack of any surplus waiting to be picked up.
Supply is going to take a hit as I will need to up the amount I send to China. I did build up a good surplus of Arm but turned it all off in 43, forgetting that the mass of mid 44 reinforcements would soon suck it up, I've got all the factories turned back on now, hopefully they should cover future needs. Likewise I've increased every Veh factory by 10 to bring it up to 300 factories, I've just received the 4th tank div that has sucked up virtually all the remaining points as it fills out.
I'm cranking out 400 Ha-45 engines a month and I'm looking to convert a few others over to this engine, I have plenty of Ha-35 so many of those factories are turned off and could be switched. The Ha-43 is still being researched and should arrive in October.
Supply is going to take a hit as I will need to up the amount I send to China. I did build up a good surplus of Arm but turned it all off in 43, forgetting that the mass of mid 44 reinforcements would soon suck it up, I've got all the factories turned back on now, hopefully they should cover future needs. Likewise I've increased every Veh factory by 10 to bring it up to 300 factories, I've just received the 4th tank div that has sucked up virtually all the remaining points as it fills out.
I'm cranking out 400 Ha-45 engines a month and I'm looking to convert a few others over to this engine, I have plenty of Ha-35 so many of those factories are turned off and could be switched. The Ha-43 is still being researched and should arrive in October.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
Fuel and Oil I have shipped religiously since the start, about 1/4 of my TK fleet is lying idle due to lack of any surplus waiting to be picked up.
Supply is going to take a hit as I will need to up the amount I send to China. I did build up a good surplus of Arm but turned it all off in 43, forgetting that the mass of mid 44 reinforcements would soon suck it up, I've got all the factories turned back on now, hopefully they should cover future needs. Likewise I've increased every Veh factory by 10 to bring it up to 300 factories, I've just received the 4th tank div that has sucked up virtually all the remaining points as it fills out.
I'm cranking out 400 Ha-45 engines a month and I'm looking to convert a few others over to this engine, I have plenty of Ha-35 so many of those factories are turned off and could be switched. The Ha-43 is still being researched and should arrive in October.
Generally, I would like to be making 400 Franks a month or more-- not to mention Grace, Peggy, George, Myrt, Frances. PDU off or on I want to lose 6000 Franks or more over the course of the game. 3000 Franks to attrit P47, 3000 more attrit the other fighters. If I over produce they make dynamite kamikazes.
Consider creating supply stockpile bases in China, Manchuko and Korea and on Honshu a base that is unlikely to be firebombed.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
Fuel and Oil I have shipped religiously since the start, about 1/4 of my TK fleet is lying idle due to lack of any surplus waiting to be picked up.
Supply is going to take a hit as I will need to up the amount I send to China. I did build up a good surplus of Arm but turned it all off in 43, forgetting that the mass of mid 44 reinforcements would soon suck it up, I've got all the factories turned back on now, hopefully they should cover future needs. Likewise I've increased every Veh factory by 10 to bring it up to 300 factories, I've just received the 4th tank div that has sucked up virtually all the remaining points as it fills out.
I'm cranking out 400 Ha-45 engines a month and I'm looking to convert a few others over to this engine, I have plenty of Ha-35 so many of those factories are turned off and could be switched. The Ha-43 is still being researched and should arrive in October.
There is a constant push/pull between keeping the KB and surface forces in the right place, and keeping them in port to avoid burning fuel. You also have to consider what is in 4E range of course. If I park the KB the air groups fly off and serve as CAP and training, plus upgrade.
The Ha-43 is the one you'll probably have to push up, and you can even add more to research if you want them repaired by the time it produces. You'll most likely need more Ha-45 too, though.
The arrivals slo down for a few months after the summer, so you'll probably build some pools, but in early 45 things go off the rails. So many new units. I'm about to get like eight divisions in Manchuria, plus another big crop on the HI soon just after. Then the February Chinese additions to complete all of those half division brigades. A lot more armor too.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
1st-10th July 44
His northern Chinese mega stack at Ankang has started to move east towards Sian. Not sure what I can scrape up to halt this vector of attack, I will have a look. At least it will be 20 days or so before they reach the City. His other mega stack threatening the central area advances to one hex west of Shaoyang. I bomb it and there is zero flak coming up, so obviously supply is an issue. He also sends a couple of units to cut the rail line between Kweilin and Changsha, but not before I get my divs where I want them to be. Very little bomber or sweep activity during this period, either supply is an issue or more likely he is resting them for some serious action to come.
Not much to report elsewhere. In Burma he starts to probe my line of troops blocking any advance south. Rahaeng seems most at risk where he has 300 AV to my 100, I'm hoping the forts hold there in time to get a RTA Div in where I may get 20 days service out of it before it vanishes into thin air...
The 10th is a very painful day as I am forced to withdraw 25 air groups. I know a lot of them return under a new name soon but they could not have gone at a more critical time.
His northern Chinese mega stack at Ankang has started to move east towards Sian. Not sure what I can scrape up to halt this vector of attack, I will have a look. At least it will be 20 days or so before they reach the City. His other mega stack threatening the central area advances to one hex west of Shaoyang. I bomb it and there is zero flak coming up, so obviously supply is an issue. He also sends a couple of units to cut the rail line between Kweilin and Changsha, but not before I get my divs where I want them to be. Very little bomber or sweep activity during this period, either supply is an issue or more likely he is resting them for some serious action to come.
Not much to report elsewhere. In Burma he starts to probe my line of troops blocking any advance south. Rahaeng seems most at risk where he has 300 AV to my 100, I'm hoping the forts hold there in time to get a RTA Div in where I may get 20 days service out of it before it vanishes into thin air...
The 10th is a very painful day as I am forced to withdraw 25 air groups. I know a lot of them return under a new name soon but they could not have gone at a more critical time.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
1st-10th July 44
His northern Chinese mega stack at Ankang has started to move east towards Sian. Not sure what I can scrape up to halt this vector of attack, I will have a look. At least it will be 20 days or so before they reach the City. His other mega stack threatening the central area advances to one hex west of Shaoyang. I bomb it and there is zero flak coming up, so obviously supply is an issue. He also sends a couple of units to cut the rail line between Kweilin and Changsha, but not before I get my divs where I want them to be. Very little bomber or sweep activity during this period, either supply is an issue or more likely he is resting them for some serious action to come.
Not much to report elsewhere. In Burma he starts to probe my line of troops blocking any advance south. Rahaeng seems most at risk where he has 300 AV to my 100, I'm hoping the forts hold there in time to get a RTA Div in where I may get 20 days service out of it before it vanishes into thin air...
The 10th is a very painful day as I am forced to withdraw 25 air groups. I know a lot of them return under a new name soon but they could not have gone at a more critical time.
I usually begin withdrawing them and upgrading training groups about a month before to prepare. It's a shock if it all happens at once. By withdrawing early I also gain the PPs for each group.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
11th-20th July 44
Night bombing by his B24s in China and at Bangkok causes havoc despite having NFs present, I lose about 200 a/c on the ground to it over this period, really hate this aspect of the game but will have to live with it. His mega stack of 11k AV at Shaoyang meets my stack of 6k AV, he has not tried to attack yet but is bombing my troops through the day with his bombers and i'm losing 50 AV a day. I have not tried to counter with CAP as he is sweeping with upwards of 200 fighters at the same time.
Meanwhile over on the Thai/Burma border he has sent the majority of his stack of troops from Moulmein to the hex to the SE but has not tried an attack yet. I have 2k AV here including a tank division but I doubt they will hold more than a few days. God knows what I will do if he breaks through there.
Darwin is now besieged and bombarded from the air daily. He also has 6 units there but has not tried an attack yet.
Night bombing by his B24s in China and at Bangkok causes havoc despite having NFs present, I lose about 200 a/c on the ground to it over this period, really hate this aspect of the game but will have to live with it. His mega stack of 11k AV at Shaoyang meets my stack of 6k AV, he has not tried to attack yet but is bombing my troops through the day with his bombers and i'm losing 50 AV a day. I have not tried to counter with CAP as he is sweeping with upwards of 200 fighters at the same time.
Meanwhile over on the Thai/Burma border he has sent the majority of his stack of troops from Moulmein to the hex to the SE but has not tried an attack yet. I have 2k AV here including a tank division but I doubt they will hold more than a few days. God knows what I will do if he breaks through there.
Darwin is now besieged and bombarded from the air daily. He also has 6 units there but has not tried an attack yet.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
+1ORIGINAL: obvert
…. If I park the KB the air groups fly off and serve as CAP and training, plus upgrade. ...
Figure that CV's are only used a few days per year … those airgroups are too valuable to sit on the decks … especially since they generally have both the best pilots and airframes …
Pax
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
I wish I had this fortitude, but I don't. I do start to pull them off the main lines and convert them to training groups in advance, but that is as far as I can go. I always find I am just so short of air groups...ORIGINAL: obvert
I usually begin withdrawing them and upgrading training groups about a month before to prepare. It's a shock if it all happens at once. By withdrawing early I also gain the PPs for each group.
Pax
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
11th-20th July 44
Night bombing by his B24s in China and at Bangkok causes havoc despite having NFs present,
What altitude is he bombing at?
Pax
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Another tactic for CV planes is simply to leave them in a task force at a port being bombed by air. Recon oftentimes won't spot them, and they will come as a surprise.
They can provide quite a bit of anti-bomber defense, and if you have the NF Zero, you can actually conduct successful night CAP (well, about the best you can with Zero NF) because the carriers will use their radar to help detect the raid. And if you don't have NF, I think the radar still helps detect the raid sooner.
Using other ship radar to detect bomber raids is a good choice no matter what. It has always seemed to me that ship radars are more effective than land radar, but it might simply have to with the number of radars being greater in CV task forces. One of the reasons why battleship CAP traps in ports works well...
They can provide quite a bit of anti-bomber defense, and if you have the NF Zero, you can actually conduct successful night CAP (well, about the best you can with Zero NF) because the carriers will use their radar to help detect the raid. And if you don't have NF, I think the radar still helps detect the raid sooner.
Using other ship radar to detect bomber raids is a good choice no matter what. It has always seemed to me that ship radars are more effective than land radar, but it might simply have to with the number of radars being greater in CV task forces. One of the reasons why battleship CAP traps in ports works well...
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
+1ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Using other ship radar to detect bomber raids is a good choice no matter what. It has always seemed to me that ship radars are more effective than land radar, but it might simply have to with the number of radars being greater in CV task forces. One of the reasons why battleship CAP traps in ports works well...
And I concur with your opinion: you can effectively pack so many radars into the hex that detection probabilities really shoot up.
Pax
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Miller
11th-20th July 44
Night bombing by his B24s in China and at Bangkok causes havoc despite having NFs present,
What altitude is he bombing at?
About 15k ft, above the range of most of my AA.
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Most players enjoy a successful nightcap. [:D]
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
ORIGINAL: Miller
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Miller
11th-20th July 44
Night bombing by his B24s in China and at Bangkok causes havoc despite having NFs present,
What altitude is he bombing at?
Yeah, you need at least the 75mm AA to reach that and while you get a few of those, there are never enough to go around.
About 15k ft, above the range of most of my AA.
Pax
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
21st-31st July 44
This period can be classified as the good, the bad and the catastrophic....
The Good:
Knowing the bulk of my fleet is far far away, Kane tries an amphibious assault at Paramushiro Jima. My search planes give me decent warning in time to load up the airfields on the Kuriles whilst I also throw in all my available naval assets in the area, which amount to only a dozen old DDs and a few subs. In turns out this is pretty much a "B team" operation, consisting of 10 CVEs and most of the old US BBs covering his transports. Over a 3 day running battle he losses 2 CVEs, 2 BBs (Mississippi and New Mexico) with several more damaged, about 10 APAs and twice as many DEs, mainly to my dive bombers. The cost to me is roughly 300 a/c and 4 of the old DDs. He manages to get 400 AV ashore but they are badly disrupted and cannot make a dent in the 150 AV defenders behind 4 forts. I'm rushing to get more troops there before his troops can recover. A bonus is that I receive 10 crappy Divs as emergency reinforcements which will act as garrison units in the HI, freeing up a few of the better Divs for use elsewhere.....
This period can be classified as the good, the bad and the catastrophic....
The Good:
Knowing the bulk of my fleet is far far away, Kane tries an amphibious assault at Paramushiro Jima. My search planes give me decent warning in time to load up the airfields on the Kuriles whilst I also throw in all my available naval assets in the area, which amount to only a dozen old DDs and a few subs. In turns out this is pretty much a "B team" operation, consisting of 10 CVEs and most of the old US BBs covering his transports. Over a 3 day running battle he losses 2 CVEs, 2 BBs (Mississippi and New Mexico) with several more damaged, about 10 APAs and twice as many DEs, mainly to my dive bombers. The cost to me is roughly 300 a/c and 4 of the old DDs. He manages to get 400 AV ashore but they are badly disrupted and cannot make a dent in the 150 AV defenders behind 4 forts. I'm rushing to get more troops there before his troops can recover. A bonus is that I receive 10 crappy Divs as emergency reinforcements which will act as garrison units in the HI, freeing up a few of the better Divs for use elsewhere.....
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
The Bad:
He makes a big breakthrough on the Burma/Thailand border
As you can see he dislodges my stack to the SE of Moulmein, killing 400 sqds in the process. I am in full retreat now to my next defensive line at Tavoy and Bangkok. The bulk of his troops (circled) of roughly 10k AV will no boubt move SE onto the rail line, next stop, Bangkok. And to top it all, the RTA goes up in smoke the next day.
He makes a big breakthrough on the Burma/Thailand border
As you can see he dislodges my stack to the SE of Moulmein, killing 400 sqds in the process. I am in full retreat now to my next defensive line at Tavoy and Bangkok. The bulk of his troops (circled) of roughly 10k AV will no boubt move SE onto the rail line, next stop, Bangkok. And to top it all, the RTA goes up in smoke the next day.
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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
Where in China are his B=29s flying from......while you might not be able to hurt the airfield where they are based......supply is everything in China....can you counter attack by bombing supply in other bases?
RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)
The Catastrophic:
Disaster in China
His mega stack of 8k AV from Ankang arrives in Sian sooner than I thought it would and with the help of his bombers easily kicks out the two divisions defending it. As you can see he also has 3k AV west of Nanyang that I can do nothing to stop. I'm trying to scrape up what I can and have about 3k heading into the woods to try and block any move south from Sian for a while. However, realistically he could send them off east towards Manchuria and there would be little or nothing I could do to stop them....
His mega stack of 11k AV at Shaoyang is being kept in check by 7K of my troops but they are subjected to daily air attack by hundreds of bombers with my fighters almost powerless to intervene. To the west in the orange circled area he is trying to manouver a way through but he has less than a 2:1 advantage in troops in poor terrain, so not too concerned there, yet...
Elsewhere several thousand miles south he kicks me out of Darwin, but not before I manage to airlift about 2/3 of the units out. He is still yet to attempt to move any further up the NG coast, probably fearing a massive CV strike.
Disaster in China
His mega stack of 8k AV from Ankang arrives in Sian sooner than I thought it would and with the help of his bombers easily kicks out the two divisions defending it. As you can see he also has 3k AV west of Nanyang that I can do nothing to stop. I'm trying to scrape up what I can and have about 3k heading into the woods to try and block any move south from Sian for a while. However, realistically he could send them off east towards Manchuria and there would be little or nothing I could do to stop them....
His mega stack of 11k AV at Shaoyang is being kept in check by 7K of my troops but they are subjected to daily air attack by hundreds of bombers with my fighters almost powerless to intervene. To the west in the orange circled area he is trying to manouver a way through but he has less than a 2:1 advantage in troops in poor terrain, so not too concerned there, yet...
Elsewhere several thousand miles south he kicks me out of Darwin, but not before I manage to airlift about 2/3 of the units out. He is still yet to attempt to move any further up the NG coast, probably fearing a massive CV strike.
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ORIGINAL: fabertong
Where in China are his B=29s flying from......while you might not be able to hurt the airfield where they are based......supply is everything in China....can you counter attack by bombing supply in other bases?
Not a hope in hell I'm afraid. He can smell my bombers a mile off and if I move them up to a forward base he simply bombs them on the ground at night, even if I get a good number to fly during the day he has plenty of fighters up to take care of them. He's building back up the HI at Chungking which I had managed to bomb down to about 50 but it's now back up to nearly 200. I'm basically screwed for failing to break through to Chungking in 42, hats off tp Kane he is a master player in the air and on the ground...