HPS Tigers Unleashed - opinions needed

[rommel222]

Greetings Asid,
Thanks for posting the link to D.O.W. website.

[Asid2]

ORIGINAL: rommel222

Greetings Asid,
Thanks for posting the link to D.O.W. website.

No problem

Regards

[E]

ORIGINAL: Blond_Knight
Having really enjoyed Tigers on the Prowl 2 and Panthers in the Shadows I have to disagree with E.
While I have not played TU I did try POA2 years ago and found...

Don't I have to say something about POA2, before you disagree with me about POA2? *grin*

I was talking about TU, but only after this year's patch. And not for casual gamers.

I cannot disagree with the detractors about TU's stability prior to this year's patch. TU was completely unplayable here, prior to this patch.

But it's working good here now, so thumb's up.

[E]

[budd]

I've watched the game for years, what always keeps me away is the lack of information. No game play videos, no AAR's , nothing promoting it. There's no other game I can think of that's been out this long with just no information about it except the sparse info at HPS. Just reading the info and looking at the screenshots the game looks like work to play, more so than fun.

[JMass]

ORIGINAL: z1812

ORIGINAL: 76mm

I haven't even tried playing the game in several years, but when I bought it upon release (2010?) it was buggy, incomplete, and expensive. There is no dedicated forum or player base, the dev does not interact with the community at all, and promised patches were years in the making. I finally gave up, don't know or care about the current state of the game.

Exactly. The worst game purchase I ever made.

+1, money and time wasted...

[E]

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[rommel222]

Greetings to All,
Purchased Tigers Unleashed from HPS after reviewing posts in matrix forums and at other websites along with viewing a video of play.
HPS support was very swift to answer some questions I had before buying. The download version installs the latest patched version 1.2.10

I have been running some of the small & medium scenarios in AI vs AI mode to become familiar with the program. TU runs fine on my 2013 Toshiba laptop i5 & 8 GB memory ram w/intel 4200 integrated graphics memory on motherboard.
I find TU to be an in depth simulation sandbox rather than a game. I like what I see and glad I took the plunge.
As a physics & astronomy professor, I use science simulations in all my courses requiring a fair amount of number crunching and old school graphics animation so TU fits right in for me.

If I encounter any TU hiccups/crashes I will let you know. Back to invading Poland & Russia

[Red2112]

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[Asid2]

ORIGINAL: Red2112

Although Asid (owner of DoW) might say different, It´s NOT a official HPS support forum that I know of. He is kind enough to help and give out all the info he has to others on his own PERSONAL web site, and might have some privileges with first hand info/patches, but again it´s not a HPS site. Nothing wrong with that, but here too it shows the poor business scheme they use for a company that´s been around for so many years.

I started Dogs Of War Vu with a group of like minded, mature friends years ago. I never said or implied that there was any official connection between DOW forum and HPS. Maybe you should look again.

I have NO privileges when it comes to HPS. I am treated the same as ANY of its customers. Any information I get is available to anyone. What I do is use my time and energy to collect as much information as possible and present it in a legible and accessible manner for EVERYONE. To the best of my knowledge, I am the only one doing this.

I have been very frustrated with HPS when it comes to TU and POA2. I have had heated exchanges with the developer. I find It unacceptable that there is no public forum or place for customers to freely get help and advice. This all falls on deaf ears unfortunately.

The Dogs Of War site is a place for information sharing and helping people. You are one of those people who benefited from it in the past. We have a passion for war, strategy and simulation. Our motto is "Friendship & Respect"

I hope this clarifies matters for you.

Regards
Asid

[76mm]

ORIGINAL: Red2112
Although Asid (owner of DoW) might say different, It´s NOT a official HPS support forum that I know of.

ORIGINAL: Asid
I never said or imlied that there was any official connection between DOW forum and HPS. Maybe you should look again.

Hey Asid my friend, I think you might have misinterpreted what Red was saying...I don't think that English is his first language, and I think that when he said "Asid might say different..." he meant something like "Asid can correct me if I'm wrong..."

Anyway, thanks for all the work on the DoW site!

[rommel222]

Greetings Red2112,
I have been running at Level 1 & Level 2 so far with all features enabled. I have used AI vs AI on 4 scenarios so far and gone through 6 tutorials as me vs AI. The 30 turn tutorial 1 took about 50 minutes at Level 1 w/German decisive victory after 27 turns. The scenarios AI vs AI Level 1/2 ran from 60+ turns for 3+ to 5+ hours for small to medium size forces. No hiccups or crashes

I am eager to play hotseat to see how the simulation fares. I agree with prior posts that this is not for casual wargamers.

[Red2112]

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[Asid2]

ORIGINAL: Red2112

Asid, you are the one who stated that it´s NOT a user fan made site which could be though of that you mean something else!. So, for me and it seems that for you aswell DoW is NOT a official support site, which is the ONLY point for my comment. My benefits from DoW at it´s time were the same that I offerd to DoW, another thing is that if you accepted them or not, which you didn´t, never played any of my proposals, and/or supported my thoughts, but that´s not the scope of this forum and/or conversation.

If you had or have any issues then I am always available to discuss via private channels.

ORIGINAL: Red2112

Let´s leave something clear, UNLESS a user gets in touch with Scott DIRECTLY, or Wodin and to some point (in the past), with you, patches, info etc were NOT available to everyone! You know that, we even had a conversation before I bought PoA2 were YOU knew more about TSS then me despite my research on the net.

Like I have always said. This behaviour from the developer is unacceptable.

I also explained to you the issue with updates, communication and the fact that it is not what most would expect from a game. I remember discussing with you that it can be very deep and that is where the problem can lie. The fidelity, needed or not can and does slow down the game engine. It is easy to be overloaded with information. It can be difficult to find the "game" in TU and POA2.

There are other forums which have posts about the lack of patches etc. I always research my purchases if it is of a sizeable cost. Yes I sometimes end up with a bad game.....

ORIGINAL: Red2112

I feel bad for having to bring this up every now and then here on the Matrix forum, and having to justify my frustration and regrets with this whole situation.

Forums are for sharing experiences, good and bad. If there is an issue then others deserve to know.


Regards
Asid

[Red2112]

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[Asid2]

ORIGINAL: Red2112

Although your intentions are good Asid, and Iam sure of that. One might reconsider "sponsoring freely", and I say this with all respect! It´s a bit of a double edge knife, if you get what I mean...

At no time on any forum have I recommended people to just go out and buy TU or POA2.

If I did not post the information I got about updates, issues, fixes etc then that information would not have appeared in public view. You might think that was/is a better solution but I do not.

Not everyone agrees with everything others say or do.

All the best Red

Regards
Asid

[Red2112]

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[E]

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[Zap]

ORIGINAL: E

ORIGINAL: Red2112
Gibson guitars, a lengendary company went out of business not to long ago, because they did refuse to ADAPT to todays market, aside from some other poor decision they took in prices and material reductions. No one would have ever thought that would happen that is in that industry/genre, but it did. In a nut shell, adapt and stop being so hard-headed and proud of your self, for the SECOND time!

Gibson is NOT out of business (2019 models are up!).

A good American company so happy has a new breath of air.

[Red2112]

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