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[DeletedUser1769703214]

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

There's some of those "Panzer supermen" that HLYA is always talking about. Five losses for the Germans and 1177 for the Soviets!

Hasty attack against a dug in unit it looks like from the combat strength of 82 for the Soviet unit. The bombers flying unopposed without the Soviets flying CAP didnt help the loses for sure. But yeah, the lose ratio against PZ units is.... You can fill in the blank.

[Telemecus]

Views from forward headquarters of South Command



This is one of what will be a regularly recurring feature of this AAR [;)]

[Telemecus]

Axis South Turn 5

[thedoctorking]

Connect 4 AAR, turn 5

German turn 4 saw a number of small offensives but on the whole our caution last turn minimized our losses. The German main effort continues to be in the south, where we gave the most ground. In order to distract some from that effort, we took a more aggressive stance in the center and north.

Here’s this turn’s armor/motorized tracking sheet:


Corps Division Strength Supply Location turn 5
4th Panzer Group
4th Pz Group Totenkopf SS Motorized 15? ? Pskov 74,34
4th/XXXXI Pz Corps 1 Panzer 35 20 Pskov 75,33
6th Panzer 31 19 Pskov 75,35
36 Motorized 21 26 Pskov 75,36
4th/LVI Panzer Corps 8th Panzer 36 21 Pskov 76,33
4th/LVI Panzer Corps 3rd Motorized 22 20 Pskov 76, 34
2nd Panzer Group
9th Army/V Corps 900th Lehr Motorized Regiment
XXIV Panzer Corps Vinnitsa 74,89
2nd/XXIV Panzer Corps 10th Motorized 8 + 6 + ? 10 Vinnitsa 73,92
2nd/XXIV Panzer Corps 3rd Panzer 45 24 Kirovograd 86,94
2nd/XXIV Panzer Corps 4th Panzer Vinnitsa 71,82
2nd/XXIV Panzer Corps 1st Cavalry 15? ?
XXXXVI Panzer Corps Vinnitsa 72,86
2nd/XXXXVi Panzer Corps 10th Panzer
2nd/XXXXVi Panzer Corps Das Reich SS Motorized 6 + 10 + 9 16
2nd/XXXXVi Panzer Corps Grossdeutschland Motorized Rgt
2nd/XXXXVII Panzer Corps 17th Panzer 8, 12, 12 31 (rgts) Land bridge region
2nd/XXXXVII Panzer Corps 18th Panzer
2nd/XXXXVII Panzer Corps 29th Motorized 7 + 6 + 7 19
3rd Panzer Group
3rd Panzer Group 7th Panzer 38 45 Vitebsk 80,46
3rd/XXXIX Panzer Corps 20th Panzer 34 32
3rd/XXXIX Panzer Corps 14th Motorized 18 33 Vitebsk 81,47
3rd/XXXIX Panzer Corps 20th Motorized 26 34
3rd/LVII Panzer Corps 12 Panzer 10, 13, 10 32 (rgts) 1 Vitebsk, 2 Mogliev
3rd/LVII Panzer Corps 19th Panzer 38 28 Orsha 80, 54
3rd/LVII Panzer Corps 18th Motorized 21 46 Orsha 80, 53
1st Panzer Group Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler SS Motorized ? ? Kirovograd 84,94
1st/III Panzer Corps 25th Motorized 21 22 Bobinets 86.97
1st/III Panzer Corps 14th Panzer 42 23 Kirovograd 86,95
1st/III Panzer Corps 13th Panzer ? ? Zhitomir 73,82
1st/XIV Panzer Corps Wiking SS Motorized 36 21 Yelanets 87,100
1st/XIV Panzer Corps 9th Panzer ? ? Yelanets 87,99 airdrop
1st/XIV Panzer Corps 16th Panzer ? ? Novoarkhangelsk 82,94
1st/XXXXVIII Panzer Corps 16th Motorized 22 23 Bobinets 87,96
1st/XXXXVIII Panzer Corps 11th Panzer 44 22 Kirovograd 85, 94
8th SS Cavalry Brigade
60th Motorized
Slovakian Motorized Division ? ?
1st Rumanian Armored 8 22 Bobinets 86.97
6th Army/XXXX Panzer Corps
2nd Panzer
5th Panzer
Latvian SS Motorized Brigade
203rd Panzer Regiment
22nd Panzer division


In the north, the German 4th Panzer Group pushed across the Sinyaya River south of Pskov while infantry from 16th Army moved up to the outskirts of the city itself. The usual German northern army, 18th, is apparently still moving up from Riga and is only in contact in southern Estonia.

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Farther south, a mass of German infantry has reached our positions between Pskov and Polotsk. Behind this mass is what appears to be a single FBD, pushing the Axis rail line east along the Riga-Velikie Luki line. This appears to be the main line of the Axis offensive in this sector. The 3rd Panzer Group’s two corps pushed across both rivers in this sector, the Dvina at Vitebsk and the Dnepr right at the bend. The corps that apparently had the HQBU last turn, XXXIX Panzer, seems to have used its movement points in deliberate attacks into the city and across the river and only advanced a few miles beyond the river. Still, this appears to confirm my suspicion that the main line of advance is north of the Dvina. The land bridge was held by a few armored regiments. To the south of the bend of the Dnepr, a few regiments held a weak position along the river down to Mogliev, which was still in our hands.

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The swamp sector is beginning to get some attention. Elements of 4th Army seem to be moving southeast, while 6th and perhaps 2nd are advancing from the south. However, they have permitted a substantial gap to open up between their infantry and the forward positions held by the armor. An eighty-mile gap separated 3rd Panzer Group’s southern flank from the elements of 4th Army moving southeast towards Gomel.

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In the northern Ukraine, there was almost no action as 2nd Panzer Group held its positions, perhaps awaiting supply deliveries or doing HQBU’s, while in the rear 17th Army and the Axis Allies cleared the remnants of the first-turn pockets and 6th and perhaps 2nd closed in on Kiev from the northwest.

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In the southern Ukraine, at least two FBD’s appear to be working the Kishniev-Odessa line. No doubt the Axis are relying on the rapid repair of the Odessa port facilities (they should be functional in a couple of turns) to deliver supplies to their advancing forces. This is a recent discovery by some Axis players that will permit much more effective supply deliveries that has been the case in earlier games. This makes it reasonable for the Axis to hope to capture Rostov-on-Don in the first summer and be prepared for a southern offensive in 1942. The Axis did not send any escorting units for the FBD’s, however, and we have the remnants of the Odessa defenses still in “beachhead” supply, so perhaps we can at least slow their advance down. Also, there are only a few German infantry divisions in this sector, meaning that any breakthrough will have to be made by armor, limiting the speed of the German advance.

[thedoctorking]

In the northern region, we continued the difficult process of sorting out Northern and Northwestern Front units. Limited AP’s and rail capacity mean that, for the most part, Northwest Front units in Estonia and around Leningrad will have to walk to their intended positions south of Novgorod, while Northern/Leningrad Front will have to be build slowly to replace them. We did move most of the forces that had been assigned to dig along the Luga south to buttress the Pskov position. This is a risky proposition. It is possible, given the reasonably good supply situation in that area, for 4th Panzer Group’s tanks to break through our positions east of Pskov and either pocket or at least threaten to pocket the city. We tried to strengthen the critical areas to ensure that a deliberate attack would be needed to clear the hexes. Most likely, they don’t have enough troops to clear a hole and still have something left to push through with, given that there is only one panzer group in the area. Also, a weak screen to the east of their positions will hopefully draw them into a fruitless attack into the swamps.

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In the center, we withdrew from the Velikaya-Polotsk line that we had been holding back towards the Lovat. Western Front’s 3rd Army is still marooned in the middle of Reserve Front’s positions; hopefully we will be able to get that situation resolved next turn. The Velikie Luki position looks strong enough to hold for this turn, especially since we managed to isolate the entirety of 3rd Panzer Group.

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The attack against 3rd Panzer Group was like the one proposed and rejected last turn, but this time only one attack had to succeed to clear the path of the breakthrough units. I judged it worth trying, especially since, in case of failure, the attackers would be near Mogliev and not hanging out in an easily-isolated forward position. Having successfully isolated 3rd Panzer Group, 13th Army took the opportunity to launch counter-attacks against several exposed units in the pocket, further exhausting their supply and ammo and hopefully making them incapable of offensive operations next turn.

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In the Kiev region, we continued a slow withdrawal towards the river. Our forces here are quite weak, with most powerful units transferred to the south to confront 1st Panzer Group’s offensive towards the lower Dnepr. It’s conceivable that 2nd Panzer Group, by now probably fully-supplied, could break across the Dnepr on both sides of Kiev and cut the city off. It would be a daring move and might invite another counterattack. Also, armor crossing a major river is very costly in movement points, and there is little infantry on the southern side of the city. I think it more likely that 6th Army will push directly into the city from the northwest while 2nd Panzer either moves to join its fellows to the southeast or sweeps the west bank of the river.

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Farther to the south, we did manage to displace one German FBD, hopefully slowing the progress of their rail construction by a couple of hexes. We withdrew another 40-50 miles, ensuring that any aggressive moves they make in this sector will be only with armor. A sweep to the Dnepr in either direction is possible; I think a movement to the northeast aiming to cross between Cherkassy and Kremenchug is the most likely.

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Losses this turn were 209980 for us and 20775 for the Axis. They destroyed 22 divisions, all in the first-turn west Ukraine pocket. Air losses were 338 to 159. Of the Axis air losses, 21 were fighters, below replacement. The new German air commander was much more cautious with his air bases than his predecessor. They lost 72 level bombers, though, in several ill-considered and ineffective strategic bombing missions. Of our air losses, 80 were first-line fighters and 21 were first-line bombers; in both cases, this is below replacement levels. End of turn TOE was 3,684,041 for us to 4,982,720 Axis (3,389,824 Germans)

[thedoctorking]

Still confused about 2nd Army.

[Telemecus]

Axis Air Turn 5

Erzac
Should be a radically faster air turn probably, as I've now some insight into the mysteries of the Kabuki.

Erzac
Also some German planes might have ended up on a Romanian airbase, as Kabuki got mixed into Romanian folk dance.

Erzac
The air part went rather nicely as well, with the exception of a particular attack, in which a handful of romanian bombers ceased to exist.
Sending level bombers without escort is generally a bad idea outside of the starting turns

Erzac
Right I'll have to bomb with them then, didn't know they were so picky about supporting allied troops [:)]

Telemecus
yes ... the allies will only bomb for themselves
the Luftwaffe will bomb for anyone - and from any army group to any army group
they are the hussies of the air world! [:)]
...
this is only ground support - for everything else like interception it is also a free for all

Erzac
Interception would be rather awkward if it was limited
"Oh they're going for the Romanians, we can stay in the canteen"

Erzac
Also we sent a direct message from Göring
Via recon

Telemecus
oh no do not go close to 999

Erzac
Yeah no worries [:)]
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Any way to see how many missions I've flown this turn?

Telemecus
yes - commanders report battles tab

[Telemecus]

Axis Allocations Turn 5

This post is reserved for a future upload of team allocations.

[thedoctorking]

Sorry, I got out of order with posting my turn 5 stuff. I don't imagine there is any way to re-order the posts now? Anyway, thanks to Erzac for pointing out his recon signature! We'll do the same for you later, but with bombers...

[Neogodhobo]

ORIGINAL: Telemecus

Axis Centre Turn 5
(Neogodhobo has asked me to post the AAR for this turn for them)

On turn 2 our North commander, Neogodhobo, wanted to move all the best units in Centre command to South Command

Neogodhobo
send lots of fast div. In the south ... Slow down the advance on center to boost south

This turn our new Centre commander, Neogodhobo, is highly critical of our turn 2 North commanders suggestion

Neogodhobo
Im extremely frustrated of having an engire pz.gr cut off from central front. Dont know whos idea it was

Message edited by Telemecus -- 9/26/2018 7:47:19 PM >

[&:] I guess I forgot all about it. Haha. Call me bipolar or something
Thanks Telemecus for doing the turn AAR. Could you shed some light on 2nd army for Dr.King ? Or else Il do it by next week.

[Telemecus]

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking
Sorry, I got out of order with posting my turn 5 stuff. I don't imagine there is any way to re-order the posts now?

You could just repost all the old posts here again in new posts after Axis turn 5? No one has commented yet on the Soviet turn so everything would be in order again. You can delete the old posts leaving a message they are intentionally blank. Or even just use them for uploaded pictures (the 1 picture per post rule) attached there but displayed in another post. [:)]