Naval and Defense News

[Dysta]

The rumoured testbed J-10B with TVC nozzle has been arrived for participating Zhuhai Air Show. The scheduled Cobra Maneuver will also likely performed by it:

Better keep in touch with Cao’s tweets for more information of the show.

https://www.twitter.com/dafengcao/statu ... 2945599488

[Hongjian]

Not just a cobra, but actually falling leaf and other post-stall maneuvers expected!

https://twitter.com/BZhRK1/status/1056276422233272320

[De Savage]

Finnish Navy's big Northern Exercise 2018.

Northern Coasts 18 (NOCO18) led by the Finnish Navy, will take place in Finland from 25 October to 8 November 2018. About 4.000 persons and dozens of surface vessels and aircraft will participate in the exercise. A total of about 4.000 people, more than 40 surface vessels and multiple aircraft will participate in the exercise. There will be 13 participating nations. In addition to Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, the United States and Germany will participate. Finland´s share of the strength of the exercise is about 2.000 persons. The air operations of the exercise will take place around Turku, Tampere and Kuopio, for example.

About 30 ships will arrive in Turku, Finland during the weekend. Just few years ago it was impossible to have several NATO ships in Finland and joint NATO exercises, but not today.

Exercise Northern Coasts 18 will be arranged in Finland between 25 October and 8 November 2018

NOCO 2018 Youtube

[ultradave]

The sub looks small-ish (going by the man far in the right background, and assuming the wire railings topside are roughly waste high. Also, our strong backs are about chest height to an average man. If those are similar it gives an idea of size.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: ultradave

The sub looks small-ish (going by the man far in the right background, and assuming the wire railings topside are roughly waste high. Also, our strong backs are about chest height to an average man. If those are similar it gives an idea of size.

Navreco has mentioned about MS200 and other bigger, AIP-equipped variants a year ago:

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... xport.html

[Dysta]

Prepare for war = Prepare to war?

https://news.usni.org/2018/10/30/china- ... wan-strait

[kevinkins]

Analysis of the sinking of the biggest Russian dry dock PD-50 a few days ago:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24 ... ed-carrier

[Hongjian]

If there was any doubt before that the J-10B prototype 1034 was infact equipped with a TVC engine, this is the definite proof of the contrary.
https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/statu ... 5095752704

[Dysta]

A wild rumor: FC-31 or what netizens called J-31, has been nominated the official name as J-35. Aren’t PLA brasses knew J-35 did existed before?



https://www.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/sta ... 3955283968

[Hongjian]

https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/statu ... 4333018112

[Zhuhai 2018] Après tant d'années resté dans l'ombre, le très mystérieux missile de lutte anti-aérienne chinois HQ-8 semble être enfin proposé à l'export. Doté d'une propulsion hybride SLRR (Solid-Liquid Rocket Ramjet), il cible principalement les AWACS à 400 km de distance

HQ-8 anti-AWACS SAM unveiled. 400km range. I'd say this is the Chinese S-400 derivate.



Apparently, it was already spotted in July this year:


The size of this missile doesnt look like it is anywhere near the 40N6 class. Perhaps the
solid-liquid hybrid ramjet propulsion makes it more compact while retaining the 400km range.

[Dysta]

HQ-8 anti-AWACS SAM unveiled. 400km range. I'd say this is the Chinese S-400 derivate.

Either the missile system’s FCR is as big and strong as AN/TPY-2 from THAAD, or it has CEC for third-party course correction. Otherwise only missile itself is not telling how it works. If it’s indeed aim for AWACS, what if it’s fly down behind the horizon?

[Hongjian]

CM-401 tactical ASBM
15-290km range (MTCR compliant), Mach 4 cruise and Mach 6 terminal speed, as well as evasive capability like the M20/Iskander.
Looks to be the export version of the rumored YJ-XX ASBM under development, the designated future mainstay weapon of the Type 055.

Dimensions are said to be 600-750mm, so would even fit in the 850mm VLS cell.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

CM-401 tactical ASBM
15-290km range (MTCR compliant), Mach 4 cruise and Mach 6 terminal speed, as well as evasive capability like the M20/Iskander.
Looks to be the export version of the rumored YJ-XX ASBM under development, the designated future mainstay weapon of the Type 055.

Dimensions are said to be 600-750mm, so would even fit in the 850mm VLS cell.

By playing the math with number 401 compare to YJ-12’s 302, that missile will be called YJ-21 (coincidence with DF-21???) or YJ-41 for PLA use, just my guessimatie.

Also, the article wrote its guidance methods. SAR sensor is confirmed to use for land-attack, while the missile itself has ARH for anti ship (still not answer how it works with hypersonic blackout at Mach 6).

So is US really up for ex-INF game with this? Only I am quite certain is once the PLA or foreign purchaser fire that missile, the entire BMD system will blaring alarms like WW3 just started.

https://3g.china.com/act/military/11132 ... 39173.html (Simplified Chinese)

CM-401不但单发突防强，而且可以使用多发导弹，多种飞行弹道组合增强导弹协同突防能力，让舰载反导拦截系统防不胜防。
(CM-401 can also fire multiple missiles in different ballistic arches, to deceive anti-air/ballistic countermeasures especally from ships.)

CM-401采用雷达导引头进行制导，导引头可跟踪水面舰艇，也可以使用合成孔径（SAR）方式进行对地成像，从而攻击港口等地面设施。
(It use ARH to seek surface ships, as well as SAR to seek land facilities like ports.)

[Hongjian]

I think Mach 6 isnt fast enough for radar blackout. Maybe just at Mach 20 or so.
Also, closer look on the seeker. Seems to be a fairly conventional mechanically steered pulse doppler radar, but I'm not sure. I imagine any seeker, even an AESA one, needs to have more freedom of movement to keep on target when mounted in a maneuvering missile.

[Dysta]

Doppler radars use planar arrays. I think they don’t want to make export variant too expensive for buyers, so Doppler is still a fair choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planar_array

[kevinkins]

Not news but a series folks might like to follow:

http://cimsec.org/the-bad-day-scenario- ... pt-1/38716

Perhaps scenario ideas and OOBs may emerge. TBD.

[Hongjian]

China's first mobile laser system LW-30, capable of engaging RAM (Rocket Artillery Mortar). It is a 30 kilowatts system, capable of ranges up to 25km (!).
Previous models were in the 10kw range and were only tested against small UAVs, as well had ranges like 5-10km.

[Hongjian]

PLAN 052C Lanzhou and JMSDF DDH Kaga encounter each other in the SCS. The response of the Chinese DDG was notably mild compared to what the USS Decatur encoutered. Some signs of Sino-Japanese detente in the mids of the trade war.

https://twitter.com/nhk_nw9/status/1058314304561197058

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/militar ... er-carrier

Chinese warship says ‘good morning’ to Japanese helicopter carrier in South China Sea

[Dysta]

What about USNS captain, not a word or the comm is closed?

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Speaking of the Chinese LWS, I just recently found it on Defence Blog. I used to visit those tweets, but I am not sure what is got into the author’s mind, he/she becomes throughly against Chinese and Russian weapon reports. Looks like the public readership get the best of it, so I start to ignore those tweets.

https://www.twitter.com/Defence_blog/st ... 5790709766

Mostly accusing copies from originals, or attempt to “hide the critique” kind of conspiracies:

https://www.twitter.com/Defence_blog/st ... 9243120640
https://www.twitter.com/Defence_blog/st ... 3624168448

[Hongjian]

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/ ... 4318708737

J-10B with TVC showing its maneuverbility. Cobra, falling leaf, high AoA post-stall maneuvers etc.

Previously unthinkable with China's engine tech. Now, everything is possible.

EDIT: Actually, it looks like it made two Cobras in a row:

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/ ... 1372291072

Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keub-5jh_M4