The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)

[mind_messing]

Well, that nugget of information changes my kami doctrine. Learn something new every day!

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: obvert

What I was getting at here is trying to bring out more from the various posts that have been made over time.


You won't find any dev post over the years with more information or clarity on the subject than the ones I made in Mike Solli's AAR.


This game does allow the player to choose the bomb load of many planes and situations (choosing torpedoes vs bombs, choosing normal vs extended range, getting 80+ exp pilots in to drop bigger bombs, altitude choice, etc). It's therefore somewhat odd and arbitrary why the devs would have wanted to "hide" what kamis carried from the player.


No one with knowledge of the subject has ever said that

• mission ordnance
• range
• size of ordnance

is taken into account in determining whether a hit results. Nor has anyone ever said anything about altitude operating differently for kamikazes than it does for other mission types. So how does any of this amount to devs hiding information.[/I][/color]



What does it matter? Why not just say that there is a bigger boom from a bigger plane? that makes perfect sense, and wouldn't change much about how (smart) players set up their kami strikes. There is no exploit there, no game balance issue, nothing to "hide." So why the mystery? [;)]


Why do you think I nor any dev haven't said that.



I agree a hit is primary. No argument there. I've had success flying FP kamis and Judy kamis with 800kg bombs. Again, that is some of what I'm trying to squeeze out.

Maybe the greatest concern in an effective kami is a good pilot with expert defensive and low naval bombing skills.
Second might be plane speed and manoeuvre ratings.
Third might be airframe durability and armor.


I've already posted what are the factors to look for.


So does the bomb load matter? Sounds like not. So why then research the myriad of 800kg bomb carrying late war planes, most of which don't have a good speed/manoeuvre/durability combo? I've decided already there is no reason. I can convert almost any group to either F/FB/MB and therefore get a good combo of fast and either durable or manoeuvrable airframes to use.


What it would be good to know is how much bigger a boom an airframe type would produce so I could better choose which of the good airframes I know will more often get a hit to dedicate to my low volume kami strikes and which to keep in their day jobs. That's all really.


Tough, you've been playing this game long enough to know that the devs have never in any area of game activity provided such detail. The idea of reducing AE to just a spread sheet has never been the intention of the devs.

Alfred

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: mind_messing


You get a respectible level of damamge from every kami hit, regarding if it's big or not.

It depends on the target. I've had CAs and BBs basically shrug them off.

[obvert]

On the 25th the Allies do stay on theme by landing a portion of a unit off-base between Mergui and Tavoy. I'll try to march to Mergui, but I again don't think the defenders will hold at Mergui long enough to get there. We'll see. I'll try to fly a few troops in too.

At least two good RN BBs are in the IO and King George V makes it’s presence felt at Mergui. Knowing these are down here makes me even more interested in getting some air strikes to fly and also makes me conservative about holding the coastal bases.
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Night Naval bombardment of Mergui at 53,62

Allied Ships
BB King George V
CA Suffolk
DD Ulster
DD Grenville
DD Termagant
DD Tenacious
DD McCalla

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 2

BB King George V firing at Mergui
CA Suffolk firing at 3rd South Seas Det.

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[obvert]

The first strikes today hit a few stragglers, sinking them both. Kamis likely heavily damage an xAP in a very efficient 2 for 3 strike, and Dates finish it off later in the afternoon.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 51,61

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
B5N2 Kate x 26

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
LST-746, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Martand, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.808 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tavoy at 53,61

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 18
P1Y2 Frances x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Van Imhoff, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y2 Frances flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tavoy at 53,61

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 33
B5N2 Kate x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Van Imhoff, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
195 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (10 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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[obvert]

Jakes then arrive, hitting another troop filled ship. She goes under after just five little 60kg bombs.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 51,61

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 19
E13A1 Jake x 20
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 57

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 10

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Birchbank, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
839 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (8 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
1 x Ki-43-IV Oscar sweeping at 31000 feet
6 x Ki-43-IV Oscar sweeping at 31000 feet

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[obvert]

Up North the ground bombing reaches a pinnacle today. A lot of devices being destroyed rather than just disabled.

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Morning Air attack on 3rd NZ Armoured Sqn , at 123,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 87
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 49
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 59
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
280 casualties reported
Squads: 54 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (10 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 112th Cavalry Regiment, at 123,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (15 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 3rd NZ Armoured Sqn , at 123,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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[obvert]

The Allied strikes come in the day today, aiming for Sendai. This didn’t look good during the sweeps with only a few Ki-100 manning the fort.

Later, since the strikes arrived in the afternoon, other friends from nearby bases did arrive and were able to hit some bombers.

It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.
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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100-I Tony x 49

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F6F-5 Hellcat sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 38,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100-I Tony x 25

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100-I Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 9
Ki-100-I Tony x 18
Ki-102b Randy x 10

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 17
B-29-1 Superfort x 3
B-29-25 Superfort x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Resources hits 17
Heavy Industry hits 6
Light Industry hits 3
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 7
Ki-100-I Tony x 11
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 4
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged

Light Industry hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 3
Ki-100-I Tony x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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[mind_messing]

It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.

Nope, that's a mistake IMO. 20,000 supply that could potentially be bombed again next month. Absolutely not worth it for as meagre an airframe as the Tony. If it was the jets or the late war stuff I'd say go for it, but IMO save the supply.

[obvert]

The final tally isn't so bad this turn. The Ki-100 is outdated, and I know it should be better supported with Franks here. The good part is downing 3 B-29s and 2 B-29 recons as well!

Damage is moderate to the industry. I can take these little hits as long as I begin to get into the bombers and take a tithe each time.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.

Nope, that's a mistake IMO. 20,000 supply that could potentially be bombed again next month. Absolutely not worth it for as meagre an airframe as the Tony. If it was the jets or the late war stuff I'd say go for it, but IMO save the supply.

I hear that. It all depends on how well I'm defending. "Re-bombed" doesn't mean a free run at it. In a month I might be eve better prepared to get to the Allied bombers. Or the P-47N could be could be slicing and dicing. I wan to wait to see f rebuilding is worth it. The Ki-100-II isn't bad now, and if I do rebuild I could always switch to the Frank. [;)]

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

It wasn’t a big strike, but surprisingly good results after all is said and done, although there was some damage. The Ki-100-II factory is now at 0(20). This is the first significant air production damage of the war. I might just rebuild it, but I’ll wait to see how much the Allies can force their will over Northern Honshu.

Nope, that's a mistake IMO. 20,000 supply that could potentially be bombed again next month. Absolutely not worth it for as meagre an airframe as the Tony. If it was the jets or the late war stuff I'd say go for it, but IMO save the supply.

I hear that. It all depends on how well I'm defending. "Re-bombed" doesn't mean a free run at it. In a month I might be eve better prepared to get to the Allied bombers. Or the P-47N could be could be slicing and dicing. I wan to wait to see f rebuilding is worth it. The Ki-100-II isn't bad now, and if I do rebuild I could always switch to the Frank. [;)]

Just remember, it's Sendai. If it was one of the major industrial cities where you'd keep a ball-of-yarn CAP up, then maybe. Defintely not Sendai - if the only air factory there is a size 20 Tony factory and it's toast, I'd even consider pulling out some of the CAP squadrons for somewhere with more industry.

To be honest, there's a lot of industry in bases like this - the loss always hurts but it's impossible to defend everything in enough strength for it to matter.

[obvert]

The first attack at Mergui is not promising. It's not catastrophic yet either.

My transports didn't transport so I'm brining in Emilys. Need to replace losses and see if I can get a 1:2 result, which would buy a bit of time.

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Ground combat at Mergui (53,62)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14530 troops, 309 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 698

Defending force 7171 troops, 44 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 205

Allied adjusted assault: 245

Japanese adjusted defense: 171

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
442 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
542 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
81st (West African) Division
2nd British Division
268th Motorised Brigade
77th Indian Para Brigade
185th USAAF Base Force
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment

Defending units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
3rd South Seas Det.
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[obvert]

On the 27th Nicks kick some butt over Hachinohe. The combination of fighters, flak and forts mean that the Allies lose 9-14 USN 4Es for no strat hits and only 5 airframes destroyed on the ground. The NF had decent warning times here, which might be part of the success too.
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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 18

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 18

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 13

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 9

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 6

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 6

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 5

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb


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[obvert]

I brought a lot of F/FB into Bangkok ,but they're all mediocre pilots. I hoped number would win out. They suffered against sweeps but did last and get to the bombers. Reducing the numbers here is crucial as he then has to decide whether to refill these with new models or reserve those for the North.

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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 22
A6M5b Zero x 23
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 57
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 71
Ki-84a Frank x 18

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
A6M5b Zero x 21
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 27
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 55
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 70
Ki-84a Frank x 18

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
A6M5b Zero x 17
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 22
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 43
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 57
Ki-84a Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 17
A6M5b Zero x 13
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 22
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 38
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 56
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
B-17F Fortress x 5
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 2
B-25J1 Mitchell x 5
B-25J11 Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5b Zero: 2 damaged
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
B-17F Fortress: 5 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25J1 Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
A6M5b Zero x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 17
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 45
Ki-84a Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
B-25J11 Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
A6M5b Zero x 7
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 16
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 39
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed


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Over Honshu the Allies go for Hachinohe. Finally a strike goes in before ALL of the sweeps have cleared he air. The defenders did pretty well though once the sweeps came as well. Got to the big boys this turn, but they did get through to wipe some resource hits and the afore mentioned Tony factory. (Lost track of turns, it is actually here, not Sendai).

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 51
N1K2-J George x 9
N1K5-J George x 19
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 70
Ki-84b Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 50
B-29-1 Superfort x 9
B-29-25 Superfort x 25
P-51D Mustang x 4
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 19 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged

Resources hits 20
Ki-100-II Tony factory hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 27
N1K2-J George x 7
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 52
Ki-84b Frank x 15

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 41,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 18
N1K2-J George x 5
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 44
Ki-84b Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 17
N1K2-J George x 3
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 42
Ki-84b Frank x 8

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 10000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 44,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 9
N1K2-J George x 3
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 24
Ki-84b Frank x 4

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 8
N1K2-J George x 2
N1K5-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-84b Frank x 4

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6
P-51D Mustang x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 7
N1K2-J George x 2
N1K5-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 13
Ki-84b Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 4
N1K5-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-84b Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
N1K5-J George x 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
22 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hachinohe , at 118,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged

Resources hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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The Allies continue to take hits to the exposed troops near Kushiro. Some of the tank units might have gone to greener pastures this turn. [;)]

Over at Para the Allies try a bombardment that doesn't come off well.

Mergui continues to fall slowly. Now I'll focus on reinforcing Tavoy.

An even more destructive bombardment at Rangoon.
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Morning Air attack on 713th Flame Tank Battalion, at 124,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
A6M8 Zero x 33
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 45
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 81
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (7 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 60 (12 destroyed, 48 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 763rd Tank Battalion, at 123,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 44
B5N2 Kate x 21
B6N1 Jill x 30
B6N2 Jill x 19
B7A2 Grace x 17
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 98
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 19 (15 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 763rd Tank Battalion, at 123,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 24
D4Y4 Judy x 41

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 800 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 2nd NZ Brigade, at 123,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 33
B6N1 Jill x 29
J2M5 Jack x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb


Ground combat at Paramushiro-jima (137,47)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 756 troops, 56 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Defending force 7373 troops, 96 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 97

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 16 (14 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
6th Infantry Division
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
58th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Medium Regiment

Defending units:
56th Div /1
Kitachishima Fortress
1st Amphibious Bde /1
6th JNAF AF Unit
7th Area Army
19th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Air Fleet /2
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
Wake Coastal Gun Battalion
31st Special Base Force /2
14th Base Force /1

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Ground combat at Mergui (53,62)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14293 troops, 317 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 645

Defending force 7014 troops, 49 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 236

Japanese adjusted defense: 159

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1051 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
658 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
268th Motorised Brigade
2nd British Division
81st (West African) Division
77th Indian Para Brigade
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
185th USAAF Base Force
134th (East Ang) Regiment

Defending units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
65th Bde /1
3rd South Seas Det.
5th Raiding Force /1

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Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3975 troops, 191 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 6384

Defending force 117614 troops, 1158 guns, 665 vehicles, Assault Value = 2853

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 50 (16 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled)


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Some 40+ 4Es are downed on the day, including a handful of B-29s. Some good sweepers also lost, and all of it over IJ bases where the majority of downed pilots won't return.

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[font="Times New Roman"]Mar 1, 1945[/font]

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It's March. 1945. The Japanese are still hauling almost as much fuel as can be produced from the SRA back to Japan. Subs and other recent surface incursions have taken a toll, but not stopped the flow. The HI is humming, largely untouched in the Home Islands. The only significant centres damaged are at Sendai and Sapporo. A lot of resources are offline, so I'm beginning to haul reserve stocks (left for this part of the war) from Formosa and the PI.

In the air the war has been intense since Dan took over, now exactly one year ago. It's been nearly even, with the Japanese loss disparity almost made up by the number of 4E shot down. I'll show figures in the next post.

Not much happened after the intense air battles of the last few turns, but there has been a shift in my thinking. It's time to consider pulling back in Burma and re-distributing the units there to other defensive positions. I've got some of the best divisions on map in Burma, and I'd like to replace some and bring the home. I'll begin pulling back by abandoning Rangoon, Pegu and the blocking hex nearby. All forces will move to Moulmein and from there about 1/3 will move immediately to other destinations.

After seeing the Allied response, the remaining block at Moulmein will be assessed. If he tries to come direct I want to see results of the river crossing into a forts 6 x2 hex between these large Armies. If not, and he choses to go around, or splits the force, I'll begin to move forces out and keep only a smaller army to delay at Moulmein. Or I might abandon it altogether.

Some depends on the success of his coastal campaign as well. I need to get a stop at Tavoy, or it's time to bail. I have two tank regiments and an ID along the route to reinforce, and they should be there within the week. He only landed to IDs worth of troops, so it might take a bit more to break through. He'll be able to quickly redistribute though after I leave Burma. That is the worry.
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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Marine Division, at 124,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
B5N2 Kate x 33
B6N2 Jill x 53
B6N2a Jill x 78
J2M5 Jack x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 37th Infantry Division, at 124,52 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3955 troops, 184 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 6385

Defending force 96568 troops, 1048 guns, 457 vehicles, Assault Value = 2543

Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 29 (10 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)


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This is a look at the past year in air losses. The Allies have done well overall, but in the air the losses have been extreme.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]ALLIED losses

Feb 44: 9,680
March 45: 25,704
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TOTAL 16,024

JAPANESE losses

Feb 44: 12,266
March 45: 30,319
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