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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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DBID #1575 SSM-1B [Type90] Ship tp ship missile has ARH terminal guidance as SSM-1 do. NOT IIR guidance. There is no reference supporting IIR guidance of SSM-1B.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403091329 ... 1011b.html (Japanese info.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_90_S ... ip_Missile (English wiki)


DBID #1192 ASM-1C[Type91] Air to ship missle
weight 610kg→510kg
[NEW] REQUEST CHANGING of ASM-1C FUEL to TurboJet, ASM-1C doesn't have Rocket fuel.

ASM-1C is improved by
ASM-1(type80/AirForce)→SSM-1(Type88/Army)→SSM-1B(Type90/Navy)=ASM-1C(Type91/Navy)→ASM-2(Type93/Airforce)
ASM-1C has Turbojet Engine as SSM-1B has. So ASM-1C has 100nm firing range as SSM-1B has.
I checked Japanse Reference of book of Technical Research and Development Institute(TDRI). And there is statement, ASM-1C can fire from farther range than Harpoon.
ALL ENGLISH SOURCES I FOUND WAS WRONG.(Weapons.net's info is not right.) Wikipedia was right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_91_A ... ip_Missile
http://web.archive.org/web/201301241504 ... I50_07.pdf (Japanese book of TDRI's official, P27)
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About the NewSSM, SSM-2 [Type17], I'm gathering information still. But as you can see, it is improved, ship-borne version of Type-12.
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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For Easier understanding, I tranlated the picture.

You can see
ASM-1(Type 80) [origine]

SSM-1(Type88) [+Turbo Jet]
FROM HERE,the improvements of Japanese ASM separetaed to JASDF/JGSDF+JMSDF.

[JGSDF/JMSDF]
SSM-1B(Type90) [+Turbo Jet,Ship borne]
ASM-1C(type93) [+Turbo Jet,Air borne] So ASM-1C has same range as SSM-1B. Just like relation between RGM-84D and AGM-84D Harpoon. Also It should has 200kg HE(200DP) as SSM-1B has.

Type12 [+Turbo Jet,coastle, +Vertical Launch, +GPS]

[JASDF]
ASM-2 (Type93) [+Turbo Jet Engine, Airborne, IIR seeker]

ASM-2B (Type93B) [+Turbo Jet Engine, Airborne, IIR seeker, +GPS]

The Original picture is from JSDF.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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DBID#2442 DDH-183 Izumo-class

Radars
improved J/OPS-28D to J/OPS-28F. Developed around late 2000.
J/OPS-20E. Developed around Early 2000. Surface search, Navugation radar. previous OPS-20C is mounted on Akuzuki and Hyuga-class.


Also Izumo-class has J/QQQ-23 LF sonar, which reduced specs variant of Hyuga's J/QQQ-21. I request reducing sonar range to around 20nm, Izumo-class sonar is just for detecting incoming torpedoes from submarines.
https://www.rina.org.uk/Izumo_class_far ... sense.html (English resources, ONLY the name can confirm)
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... destroyer/ (English resources, ONLY the name can confirm)
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%84 ... C%E6%88%A6 (Japanese wiki, I translated)

[Important] Izumo-class doens't have HOS-303 324mm torpedo tubes. Remove it please.
(No reference is a reference)

[Important] QLQ-1 MOD and QLQ-1 FAJ counter torpedo system has to be added. (I already request this few times, for Izumo, Akizuki, and Asahi-class)

https://www.rina.org.uk/Izumo_class_far ... sense.html (Reference)
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... destroyer/

[Important]Confirmed Izumo-class with Link16 system.(And for Hyuga-class, too.)
https://www.rina.org.uk/Izumo_class_far ... sense.html

CIWS is BLK1A model at the point of 2016.
Request adding 2017 model of Izumo, which changed CIWS from blk1A to blk1b.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%84 ... 2%E7%A9%BA (Japanese wiki, I translated)



DBID#480 DDH-181Hyuga-class
J/OPS-20 to J/OPS-20C. Developed around Early 2000. Atago-class has 20B so I guess around it.
Remove J/OPS-28D from Hyuga.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/d ... rier-japan
[Important]Link 16 system.(Again) Link 11/14/16 system.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B5%B7 ... 6%E3%83%A0

DBID#2293 DD 115 Akizuki-class
[Important]I already Requested but MOD and FAJ counter torpedo system. 4 rounds for each.
[Important]Link 16 system.(Again)
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B5%B7 ... 6%E3%83%A0
[VERY Important]Request adding "DD 117 Teruzuki[Akizuki-class] 2013" which replaced RUM-139 to Type07 VLA.


DBID#3128 DD 119 Asahi-class
add OPS-48 radar instead of OPS-20C and OPS-10.
[Important]I already Requested but MOD and FAJ counter torpedo system. 4 rounds for each.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%82 ... %E4%BB%A3)
[VERY Important] replace RUM-139 to Type07 VLA.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... rials.html

Radar development date is my suggestion. due to the previous radar and the years of the ship developed.
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RE: Japanese ASW Weapons

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About an AAM-4B Type-99 Air to Air missiles.
AAM-4B'S JARG-1's recever has two channel. That's because AAM-4's Datalink can hands off to wingman Fighter to the F-15J or F-2 can going defensitive.
なお、中間誘導は僚機に引き継がせることも可能である。
Means "In addtion, It is also possible to let the wingman take over the intermediate guidance".

http://eaglet.skr.jp/MILITARY/AAM-4.html

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/99%E5%BC% ... E%E5%BC%BE (the info is also on Japanese wiki)

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I should say, this is the Limited CEC-capability. AAM-4B can hands off the control to AAM-4 users (F-15J MSIP and F-2). In another words, the plane has J/ARG-1/2 can take over the control of AAM-4Bs when lanched unit destroyed or cannot send the update information.
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RE: Japanese ASW Weapons

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Greetings once again! I've once again dug into my pile of Standard Aircraft Characteristics scans and came up with a few requests, now for the venerable A-7 Corsair. Please look into the A-7A, A-7D and A-7K documents, as they have some nifty little charts with the the types of weapons the aircraft can carry, how many and in which stations! Thanks once again, and off with the requests!

#903 – Vought A-7B Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-116
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/ALR-25 + AN/ALR-26
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF30-P-8
---Thrust: 12200 lbs. (military)/9600 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1500 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-81
---AN/ALQ-88

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7B_C ... y_1970.pdf

#964, #2211, #706, #478, #881, #4236, #4237, #479, #932 – Vought A-7E Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-25(V)
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-2
---Thrust: 15000 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1476 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7E_C ... l_1972.pdf
 
#480 – Vought A-7D Corsair II (early)

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-37 + AN/APR-36
---CMD: AN/ALE-40(V)11

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-1
---Thrust: 14250 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1425 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-71(V)2 or (V)3
---AN/ALQ-87
---AN/ALQ-101(V)1, (V)3, (V)4 or (V)6
---AN/ALQ-119(V)16 or (V)17
---AN/ALQ-131(V)

- Used flare dispensers (2):
---SUU-25C or -25E
---SUU-42

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document: the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

- Uses boom refuelling instead of probe refuelling.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7D_C ... r_1986.pdf
 
#3029, #3748 – Vought A-7D Corsair II (late)

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/ALR-46
---CMD: AN/ALE-40(V)11
---Laser spot tracker: AN/AAS-35

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-1
---Thrust: 14250 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1425 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-71(V)2 or (V)3
---AN/ALQ-87
---AN/ALQ-101(V)1, (V)3, (V)4 or (V)6
---AN/ALQ-119(V)16 or (V)17
---AN/ALQ-131(V)

- Used flare dispensers (2):
---SUU-25C or -25E
---SUU-42

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document: the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

- Uses boom refuelling instead of probe refuelling.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7D_C ... r_1986.pdf
 
#2969, #2267, #1430, #2067 – Vought A-7H Corsair II

- Identical to the A-7E except in the absence of an in-flight refuelling system.

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-25(V)
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-2
---Thrust: 15000 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1476 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7E_C ... l_1972.pdf
https://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7h.html
 
#3028, #3746, #491, #3747 – Vought A-7K Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/ALR-46
---CMD: AN/ALE-40(V)11
---Laser spot tracker: AN/AAS-35

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-1A
---Thrust: 14500 lbs. (military)/13200 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1425 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-71(V)2 or (V)3
---AN/ALQ-87
---AN/ALQ-101(V)1, (V)3, (V)4 or (V)6
---AN/ALQ-119(V)16 or (V)17
---AN/ALQ-131(V)

- Used flare dispensers (2):
---SUU-25C or -25E
---SUU-42

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document: the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

- Uses boom refuelling instead of probe refuelling.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7K_C ... r_1986.pdf
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RE: Japanese ASW Weapons

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JMSDF P-1 has Link16 TADIL-J.
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/others/ ... t/0041.pdf (Last page)

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Submarine with AIP, the speed of ONLY AIP is not that fast as it is in CMANO.

AIP engines are usually 5~6knots per hour, That's why JMSDF got new Soryu-class ship with lithium battery instead of AIP and Lead battery.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-b ... lete-18908
https://defencyclopedia.com/2016/07/06/ ... aip-works/

Still silent but but fast.

The list of Subs with AIP is here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-indep ... propulsion
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RE: Japanese ASW Weapons

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I don't believe KC45 has brought this up yet with his wealth of information on the SDF, but the Sea Sparrow missile armaments for the Japanese ships so equipped (Hatsuyuki, Asagiri, Haruna, and Shirane) are full of inconsistencies and badly need updating. Unfortunately, I do not read Japanese so I can only point out obvious problems and offer some suggestions.

First, as far as I can tell the RIM-7J designation never actually existed - in fact a Google search of “RIM-7J” only returns entries from the CMANO database. Instead, that weapon should be renamed RIM-7F (which is actually already included in its database descriptive title).

Second, you have ships armed RIM-7H, RIM-7J, and RIM-7M out of chronological order. For instance, Shirane 1980 has RIM-7M (the most advanced version) while Shirane 1981 has RIM-7H (the earliest version). While this is clearly wrong, I couldn't find reliable dates so I would suggest simply going by your database descriptive titles and having RIM-7H on entries prior to 1984, RIM-7J on entries 1984-1985, and RIM-7M on entries after that.

Third, the same ships have a different number of reloads under different entries (Hatsuyuki has 4 or 16, Asagiri has 4 or 12, Shirane has 8 or 16). Again, this is obviously not accurate but I do not have reliable sources. However, the times I did see a reload number mentioned it always seemed to be 8 (which would make sense given the 8 round launchers). Therefore, unless better information is available, I would suggest giving 8 Sea Sparrow reloads for all entries.

Finally, every ship is listed as carrying the Mk 29 launcher, which is not the case. Shirane had the older Mk 25 BPDMS launcher (already in the database) until her refit in 2004, when it was replaced with a GMLS-3 launcher derived from the Italian Albatros launcher (which is already in the database). Most other ships should also have the GMLS-3 although some did have the Mk 29. However, the source for this is machine translation of the Japanese language Wikipedia pages on the respective ship classes so confirmation would be needed (the Mk 25 though is clearly confirmed by photos).


Here is a list of my proposed changes:

Hatsuyuki 1982: Mk 29 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7H and 16 reloads)
Hatsuyuki 1986: Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 4 reloads)
Hatsuyuki 1992: Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)
Hatsuyuki 2006: Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)

Yamayuki 1985: GMLS-3 with RIM-7F and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 4 reloads)
Yamayuki 1986: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 4 reloads)
Yamayuki 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)
Yamayuki 2006: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)

Asagiri 1989: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)
Asagiri 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)
Asagiri 2012: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)

Hamagiri 1991: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 12 reloads)
Hamagiri 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)
Hamagiri 2006: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)

Haruna 1987: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Haruna 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)
Haruna 2006: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)

Shirane 1980: Mk 25 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)
Shirane 1981: Mk 25 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads)
Shirane 1986: Mk 25 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 16 reloads)
Shirane 1990: Mk 25 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 16 reloads)
Shirane 1992: Mk 25 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 16 reloads)
Shirane 2006-2017: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 16 reloads)

Takatsuki 1986: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Takatsuki 1988: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Takatsuki 1990: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Takatsuki 1992-2003: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)
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RE: Japanese ASW Weapons

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ORIGINAL: ARCNA442

I don't believe KC45 has brought this up yet with his wealth of information on the SDF, but the Sea Sparrow missile armaments for the Japanese ships so equipped (Hatsuyuki, Asagiri, Haruna, and Shirane) are full of inconsistencies and badly need updating. Unfortunately, I do not read Japanese so I can only point out obvious problems and offer some suggestions.

First, as far as I can tell the RIM-7J designation never actually existed - in fact a Google search of “RIM-7J” only returns entries from the CMANO database. Instead, that weapon should be renamed RIM-7F (which is actually already included in its database descriptive title).

Second, you have ships armed RIM-7H, RIM-7J, and RIM-7M out of chronological order. For instance, Shirane 1980 has RIM-7M (the most advanced version) while Shirane 1981 has RIM-7H (the earliest version). While this is clearly wrong, I couldn't find reliable dates so I would suggest simply going by your database descriptive titles and having RIM-7H on entries prior to 1984, RIM-7J on entries 1984-1985, and RIM-7M on entries after that.

Third, the same ships have a different number of reloads under different entries (Hatsuyuki has 4 or 16, Asagiri has 4 or 12, Shirane has 8 or 16). Again, this is obviously not accurate but I do not have reliable sources. However, the times I did see a reload number mentioned it always seemed to be 8 (which would make sense given the 8 round launchers). Therefore, unless better information is available, I would suggest giving 8 Sea Sparrow reloads for all entries.

Finally, every ship is listed as carrying the Mk 29 launcher, which is not the case. Shirane had the older Mk 25 BPDMS launcher (already in the database) until her refit in 2004, when it was replaced with a GMLS-3 launcher derived from the Italian Albatros launcher (which is already in the database). Most other ships should also have the GMLS-3 although some did have the Mk 29. However, the source for this is machine translation of the Japanese language Wikipedia pages on the respective ship classes so confirmation would be needed (the Mk 25 though is clearly confirmed by photos).


Here is a list of my proposed changes:

Hatsuyuki 1982: Mk 29 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7H and 16 reloads)
Hatsuyuki 1986: Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 4 reloads)
Hatsuyuki 1992: Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)
Hatsuyuki 2006: Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)

Yamayuki 1985: GMLS-3 with RIM-7F and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 4 reloads)
Yamayuki 1986: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 4 reloads)
Yamayuki 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)
Yamayuki 2006: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)

Asagiri 1989: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 4 reloads)
Asagiri 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)
Asagiri 2012: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)

Hamagiri 1991: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 12 reloads)
Hamagiri 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)
Hamagiri 2006: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 12 reloads)

Haruna 1987: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Haruna 1992: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)
Haruna 2006: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)

Shirane 1980: Mk 25 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)
Shirane 1981: Mk 25 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7H and 8 reloads)
Shirane 1986: Mk 25 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 16 reloads)
Shirane 1990: Mk 25 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 16 reloads)
Shirane 1992: Mk 25 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 16 reloads)
Shirane 2006-2017: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 16 reloads)

Takatsuki 1986: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Takatsuki 1988: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Takatsuki 1990: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7J and 8 reloads)
Takatsuki 1992-2003: GMLS-3 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads (currently Mk 29 with RIM-7M and 8 reloads)

In addition, Radar/Illuminator of Shirane-class changed to FCS-2-12 from WM.25 when they got GMLS-3(RIM-7M).
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%97 ... B%E8%89%A6

and Takanami-class, Murasame-class had RIM-7P. Now ESSM.
Murasame 1996
Murasame 2001
Murasame 2006
Takanami 2003
Takanami 2004
http://www.deagel.com/Fighting-Ships/Mu ... 94001.aspx
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DB3K v476

#1008 R08 - Queen Elizabeth (2018) aircraft carrier has incorrect radar, can carry 250 marines and has 3 passenger transport boats

1) Type 1045 Sampson MFR is incorrect, only fitted to UK Type 45 destroyers, please remove.

2) Missing a Type 1046 VSR/LRR [S.1850M], please add.

3) Can carry 250 marines

4) Has 3 passenger transport boats

See Wikipedia entry for HMS Queen Elizabeth R08
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Request change ASM-1C (again)
FIRST, ASM-1C is the Air-Launched version of SSM-1B Ship to ship missile, I'll put the picture. So they have same ability.
I found some Engilish resources have many mistaking data. But I found Japanese official reference from TRDI, explained below.
I need this change for constructing my scinario.

*Weight;510kg (now 610kg)

*Range(anti-surf);100nm (now 35nm)

*Properties
Terrain following
Search Pattern
BOL
Weapon-INS navigation
Terminal Maneuver-Pop-up
Level Cruise Flight

*Warheads
260kg HE

*Propulsion
Turbojet 600kts (now Rocket)
*Fuel
Aviation Fuel:11.1 min(now rocket fuel)

CAN plot course!

The sources are Japanese but Official magazines of Technical Research and Development Institute (TRDI), origin of Japanese Acquisition Technology and Logistics Agency(ATLA).
http://web.archive.org/web/201301241504 ... I50_07.pdf (PDF data)
http://www.mod.go.jp/atla/en/index.html (home page of ATLA)

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07 VLA
Japanese Supersonic Vertical Launch ASROC, Larger and Heavier than RUM-139 VLA.

General Data
Type:Guided Weapon
Length; 6.53m(6.535m in wiki,6.53m in pucture below)
span: 0.7m (Data from RUM-139)
diameter:0.45m
Weight:1284kg (1.284t)
Guidance Type:Internally Guided
Cruise altitude:2000ft ASL,610m ASL(Based on RUM-139)
Climb Rate,S/L:(sry, I don't know how you guys decide here)

Range (anti-sub): 0,.5~16nm

Sub POH:95%(Based on RUM-139)

Properties:
BOL
INS Nav system
Level Cruise Flight

Warheads
Type97 GRX-4(DBID#314)
or
Type 12

VALID Targets
Subs

WRS
same as RUM-139

Propulsion
Engine:Rocket Fuel/Fuel:Rocket/Maxspeed:1000knts(1.60Mach) (the data of speed is just supersonic, 1.6Mach is not that hyper or hypo suggestion)

Performance Details
Band1,Cruise Speed/Altitude-0-6500ft/1000knts(1.60Mach)/Fuel Consumption:1 fuel points/second

Fuel

Fuel Type:Rocket Fuel/Quantity:2min (Based on RUM-139)

Weapons Carrior

Teruzuki [Akizuki-class] (akizuki-class's Akizuki has RUM-139 but from second ship, They equip this 07 VLA)
Asahi(DBID#3128)
Maya

Sources
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/ ... shi/02.pdf (Japanese official Document of MOD,Ministery Of Defence)
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/ ... bun/02.pdf (Japanese official Document of MOD,Ministery Of Defence)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_07_V ... ine_rocket (wikipedia but I checked all data, and is correct)

Akizuki-class Suzutsuki's picture
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Akizuki-class,Asahi-class and Izumo-class have MOD and FAJ counter torpedo system.
Both of them are late 2000's technology, so expect 35~40% PoH for both decoys. Because I checked AN/SLQ-25A Nixie(DBID#1066) starts service around 2000's and the PoH was 35%.

Also, SS-508 Sekiryu, the 8th submarine of Soryu-class starts equip MOD, almost same things as ships got.

I already posted it but I'll list all infomations I got.

FAJ(Floating Acoustic Jammer)
length:1.38m
span:same as diameter
diameter:0.13m
Weight:25kg

Range(anti-surf):1nm

Surface PoH:40%

Signatures:
expect similar or same as Nixie


MOD(MObile Decoy) There are veriations of For ship/submarine.
length:1.6m
span:same as diameter
diameter:0.15m
Weight:26kg

Range(anti-surf):2nm/Range(anti-sub):2nm

Signatures:
expect similar or same as Nixie


Sorry for there are not much English sources

http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/ ... kou/01.pdf (Japanese official references of all in piture.)

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/ ... AoNieJCeUk (news of SS Skiryu lost decoys(MOD))
http://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/release/201805/20180524.pdf (Japanese news of SS Skiryu lost decoys, more datailed info of the decoy, length, diameter and weight)

http://www.pcpulab.mydns.jp/main/tousai.htm

picture with infomations of FAJ
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[DBID2293] DD 115 Akizuki

Mounts/Stores/Weapons
2x 324mm HOS 303/Weapons:3x Type97 GRX-4, 0x Mk46 NEARTIP mod5

FAJ launcher/Weapons:4x FAJ
MOD launcher/Weapons:4x MOD

Magazines:

Type 97 GRX-4 [External Tubes]/Stores 12x Type 97 GRX-4

Comms/Datalinks

Link16 JTDIS


[DBIDXXXX] DD 116 Teruzuki[Akizuki-class] From 2nd ship of Akizuki, Akizuki-class have 07VLA instead of RUM-139.
Thread of I posted for 07 VLA: fb.asp?m=4564874
Mounts/Stores/Weapons
1x Mk41VLS[32cell]/32xESSM;16x 07 VLA (instead ofRUM-139VLA);0x RUM-139 VLA (still capable, not common to carry)

Sorry again for tons of Japanese sources

http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/ ... kou/01.pdf
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj-tB9kUwAA4p-Q.jpg (about HOS-303 and Type 97:picture of Suzutsuki ,3rd ship of Akizuki-class)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj-xO1eU4AA_Sxk.jpg (about 07 VLA:picture of Suzutsuki ,3rd ship of Akizuki-class)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj-s1UqV4AEpix7.jpg (about MOD:picture of Suzutsuki ,3rd ship of Akizuki-class)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj_D7LwVAAA6WmX.jpg (about FAJ:picture of Suzutsuki ,3rd ship of Akizuki-class)

[Download Link/PDF] www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=628057 (all about Akizuki-class,Only one English sources with Enough infomations)
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[DBID3128] DD 119 Asahi-class

Sensors/EW:
[Remove] 1x J/OPS-10
[Remove] 1x J/OPS-20C
[add]4x J/OPS-48 AESA radar /Max range:least 40nm/ Notes:Radar,Surface Search&Navigation /Abilities:Early 2010's technology,Surface Search,Range information,Speed Information,Heading info;Operaton bands (search&Track):I
(J/OPS-48 is AESA/Faced array radar, the origin is HPS-106, the P-1's searface search Radar.)

Mounts:
2x 324mm HOS 303/Weapons:3x Type97 GRX-4, 0x Mk46 NEARTIP mod5

1x Mk41VLS[32cell]/32x ESSM;16x 07 VLA (instead ofRUM-139VLA);0x RUM-139 VLA (still capable, not common to carry)

FAJ launcher/Weapons:4x FAJ
MOD launcher/Weapons:4x MOD

Magazines:
Type 97 GRX-4 [External Tubes]/Stores 12x Type 97 GRX-4

Comms/Datalinks

Link16 JTDIS


[DBIDXXXX] DD 119 Asahi,2019 In 2019, Asahi-class will get Remote Weapon System(RWS).

Sensors/EW
2x Generic Gun Director[IR] (for 12.7mm RWS)
2x Genric Gun Director[LLTV] (for 12.7mm RWS)
2x Generic Laser Rangefinder for gun director (for 12.7mm RWS)

Mounts
2x 12.7mm RWS(2 of them for each right and left side)/Onboard Seonsors;Generic Gun Director[IR],Genric Gun Director[LLTV],Generic Laser Rangefinder for gun director /Weapons:20x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10rnds] /Notes:Local Control Possible

Resources

Resources for OPS-48,FAJ,MOD
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http://www.tokyo-dar.com/columns/4898/ (Japanese resource; About RWS)
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/ ... kou/01.pdf (Japanese resources; Japanese official Docment)
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... rials.html (English resources for 07 VLA)

http://www.pcpulab.mydns.jp/main/goeikan.htm (Japanese Respurces for detailed informations for (J/)OPS-48)
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Guys, a subtle reminder that DB additions generally favor scenarios under construction. Don't ask something just because it exists, but because you're actually going to use it. Thanks [:)]
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Just a few small updates for Qatar.
In 2012 a sale of patriot missiles was approved http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/qa ... -equipment

in 2014 two full THAAD systems were approved for sale to them https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/gu ... ems-04390/

They also signed a deal with Boeing in 2017 for 36 F-15E in a new variant, the F-15QA https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... rs-438280/

Working on a 2023 series of scenarios and while i can get around the Air defenses easily there is no good substitute for the F-15QA
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This is the request for F-2 loadouts, those have HUGE effect Japan Side's strategy.

F-2A/B(2001,2008,2013,2015,2018) (DBID#486,707,4302,4300,346)

Aircraft Loadouts
(The request is based on statements when FS-X development, JASDF(Japan Air Self Defence Force) requested 450nm Strike Radius with 4x ASMs.)
ASM-2[Type93],J/AQQ-2 Pod /Range;Around 520nm
ASM-2[Type93],J/AQQ-2 Pod,Heavy /Range;450nm


F-2A/B 2020
(Add ASM-3 and Bomb/ASM with AAM-4B loadout,Bomb/ASM with AAM-4B is now testing at Gifu AB)

Aircraft Loadouts
ASM-3,AAM-4B[Type99],J/AQQ-2 Pod(Standoff Strike,Naval) /Stores;2x ASM-3,2x AAM-4B[Type99],2x AAM-5[Type04],1x 300 USG Drop Tank,2x 600 USG Drop Tank /Range and Profile:around 500nm Strike Radius(Due to Long range missile but Heavy), Hi-Hi-Hi Profile.

ASM-2[Type93],AAM-4B[Type99],J/AQQ-2
/2x ASM-2,2x AAM-4B[Type99],2x AAM-5[Type04],2x AAM-5[Type04] (Optional),x 300 USG Drop Tank,2x 600 USG Drop Tank /Range:around 500nm Strike Radius) /Range and Profile:around 630nm

GBU-38(V)1/B JDAM[Mk82],AAM-4B,J/AQQ-2,Heavy //4x GBU-38(V)1/B,2x AAM-4B[Type99],2x AAM-5[Type04],1x 300 USG Drop Tank,2x 600 USG Drop Tank /Range and Profile:around 630nm


http://www.jwing.net/news/7174 (ASM-3's mass production starts in 2019, expect units will receive those for operations from 2020.)
http://type04.com/photo/jasdf/f2.html (Reference of the head of JASDF requested 450nm Strike Radius with 4x ASMs)

Picture of Loadout of ASM-2/4xJDAM+AAM-4B, It explaining those loadouts are now testing at GifuAB
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(DBID#1199) AAM-4B Kai[Type99]

AAM-4B is the MRAAM with AESA Radar, I want the difference in CMANO. Also checked it has CEC capability, which can only guided by F-15J or F-2A/B. I already posted, but I gathered and listed with detailed informations.

Sensors/EW:
1x Active Radar Seeker /Max Range: 7nm (Due to AAM-4B equip AESA Radar and has 1.4 times autonomous guidance range than AIM-120B+(=AIM-120C-7), And Suggest the AESA Radar has wider search angle)

COMMS/DATALINKS:
AAM-4 Missile Datalink[J/ARG-1 Receiver] /Properties: Supports CEC,LOS-Limited, Receive-only,Secure,UHF Radio
(can Directed by J/ARG-1(F-15) or J/ARG-2 (F-2), and can also directed by other F-15 or F-2)

Properties:

[add] LOAL - CEC Capable

Warheads:

AAM-4 Warhead 39Kg/86ib Blast/Frag [16kg/36ib HE-PBX](12DP)
(Due to information of "AAM-4 has larger warhead than AIM-120's for eliminating Cruise Missiles completely, the 12DP is based on Meteor missile's DP /The size of the AAM-4 is similar to AIM-7's so I used the Warhead Weights of AIM-7'S"



References
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Technopolis- ... AAM-4.html (Japanese Resouces)
http://eaglet.skr.jp/MILITARY/AAM-4.htm (Japanese resources for Warhead data,seeker range,CEC-Capability)
fb.asp?m=4557047 (my post about the Radar seeker range)
fb.asp?m=4562892 (My post about CEC-Capabilities of AAM-4)

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Japanese ASW weapons and loadouts, I picked up these loadouts affect my scenario construction. Mainly,add Type 97 GRX-4 torpedo and updated sonobuoy for loadouts.


P-1 (Request add Type97,new sonobuoy,8 torpedoes for bomb bay)

Sensors/EW:
3x J/HPS-106 AESA Radar (Each radar has 90 Degree)
Has Air search abilities

Aircraft Stores:

[Replace]J/HQS-13 G-1 DIFAR
[Replace]J/HQS-33D DICASS
[add]Type 97 GRX-4
[add]AGM-84D
[add]AGM-65F
[add]Depth Charge[Aerial] (Actually the name is 150kg anti-submarine bomb, but use Aerial one is no problem)


Aircraft Loadouts
[Replace](DBID15708)ASM-1C,Type 97,J/HQS-13 G-1 DIFAR,J/HQS-33D DICASS /Stores: 4x ASM-1C,8x Type 97,100x J/HQS-13 G-1,40x J/HQS-33D DICASS

[add]Type 97,J/HQS-13 G-1 DIFAR,J/HQS-33D DICASS /Stores: 8x Type 97,100x J/HQS-13 G-1,40x J/HQS-33D DICASS

[add]AGM-84D,Type 97,J/HQS-13 G-1 DIFAR,J/HQS-33D DICASS /Stores: 4x AGM-84D,8x Type 97,100x J/HQS-13 G-1,40x J/HQS-33D DICASS

[add]AGM-65F,Type 97,J/HQS-13 G-1 DIFAR,J/HQS-33D DICASS /Stores: 4x AGM-65F,8x Type 97,100x J/HQS-13 G-1,40x J/HQS-33D DICASS

[add]ASM-1C (Stand-off Strike, Naval) /Stores:6x ASM-1C
[add]AGM-65F (Stand-off Strike, Naval) /Stores:6x AGM-65F
[add]AGM-65F,long-range (Stand-off Strike, Naval) /Stores:2x AGM-65F

[add]Armed Maritime Surveillance /Stores: 3x Depth Charge[Aerial](DBID1363)




P-3C
(1982,1984,1990,1992,1996,2000)

Aircraft Stores
[Replace]J/HQS-13F DIFAR (ONLY for 2000's)
[Replace]J/HQS-33C DICASS (ONLY for 2000's)
[add]Type 97 GRX-4 (ONLY for 2000's)
[add]AGM-84D (from 1984)
[add]Depth Charge[Aerial] (Actually the name is 150kg anti-submarine bomb, but use Aerial one is no problem /for ALL)


Aircraft Loadouts

[add, for all]Armed Maritime Surveillance /Stores: 3x Depth Charge[Aerial](DBID1363)

[add, for 1984] AGM-84D,Mk45 LWT Mod2,J/HQS-6 LOFAR,J/HQS-32B CASS /Stores: 4x AGM-84D,8x NEARTIP Mod5,100x J/HQS-6 LOFAR,40x J/HQS-6 LOFAR

[add, for 1990,1992,1996,2000]AGM-84D,Mk45 NEARTIP Mod5,J/HQS-12 DIFAR,J/HQS-33B DICASS /Stores: 4x AGM-84D,8x NEARTIP Mod5,100x J/HQS-12 DIFAR,40x J/HQS-33B DICASS

[add, ONLY for 2000]AGM-84D,Mk46 NEARTIP Mod5,J/HQS-13F, DIFAR,J/HQS-33C DICASS /Stores: 4x AGM-84D,8x Mk46 NEARTIP Mod5,100x J/HQS-13F DIFAR,40x J/HQS-33C DICASS

[add,ONLY for 2000's](DBID15708) ASM-1C,Type 97, J/HQS-13F DIFAR,J/HQS-33C DICASS /Stores: 4x ASM-1C,8x Type 97,100x J/HQS-13F DIFAR,40x J/HQS-33C DICASS

[add,ONLY for 2000's]Type 97,J/HQS-13F DIFAR,J/HQS-33C DICASS /Stores: 8x Type 97,100x J/HQS-13F DIFAR,40x J/HQS-33C DICASS

[Replace,ONLY for 2000's]Mk46 NEARTIP Mod5,J/HQS-13F DIFAR,J/HQS-33C DICASS /Stores: 8x Mk46 NEARTIP Mod5,100x J/HQS-13F DIFAR,40x J/HQS-33C DICASS

SH-60J 1991’s (DBID#56)
(Add Guns)

Mounts:

1x AN/ALE-47(PJ) x4 Chaff dispenser /Weapons: 12x Generic Chaff Salvo[5x] + 20x Generic Flare Salvo[3x]
1x 7,62mm MG (Right side only)


SH-60J, 2000’s
(add new sonobuoy for loadout)

Stores:

[add]J/HQS-33C

Aircraft Loadouts:

[add] Mk46 Mod5,J/HQS-33C /Stores:2x Mk46 Mod5,25xJ/HQS-33C
[add] Mk46 Mod5,J/HQS-33C,Long Range /Stores:1x Mk46 Mod5,25xJ/HQS-33C,1x 120 USG Drop Tank


SH-60K,2006’s
(DBID#2058)

Mounts:
1x AN/ALE-47(PJ) x4 Chaff dispenser /Weapons: 12x Generic Chaff Salvo[5x] + 20x Generic Flare Salvo[3x]
1x7.62mm MG (RIGHT Side only)

Stores:

[Replace]J/HQS-33C(from HQS-33B)
[add]Type-97 GRX-4

Aircraft Loadouts:
[add] Type-97 GRX-4,J/HQS-33C /Stores:2x Type 97,25xJ/HQS-33C
[add] Type-97 GRX-4,J/HQS-33C,Long Range /Stores:1x Type 97,25xJ/HQS-33C,1x 120 USG Drop Tank


NEW Sonobuoy
J/HQS-33C DICASS(AN/SSQ-62C-DBID#2480)
HQS-33D was on service around 2006 and name is DICASS, expect same spec as AN/SSQ-62C

J/HQS-33D DICASS (AN/SSQ-62E-DBID#2482)
HQS-33D starts service around 2008 and name is DICASS, expect same spec as AN/SSQ-62E

J/HQS-13F DIFAR
(AN/SSQ-53E-DBID#2478)
HQS-13F was on service around 2006 and name iis DIFAR, expect same spec as AN.SSQ-53E

J/HQS-13 G-1 DIFAR(AN/SSQ-53F-DBID#2496)
HQS-13 G-1 starts service around 2008 and name is DIFAR, expect same spec as AN.SSQ-53F


These are a lot but still important change for Japanese Forces.

fb.asp?m=4551716 My post about P-1’s radar and sonobuoys)

upfiles/58306/7BC1056BCDBC44F69CA66AF4C6F1D921.jpg (Picture for P-1 with AGM-65F Inert)

http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/others/ ... t/0222.pdf (Japanese Official document of add AN/ALE-47(PJ) to SH-60K.

http://rightwing.sakura.ne.jp/equipment ... 60j_52.jpg
(picture of SH-60J with AN/ALE-47(PJ))

http://www7b.biglobe.ne.jp/~blue-jaywal ... vp6b_s.jpg (picture of Japanese P-3C with AGM-84D)

https://youtu.be/HWC9enysPAY?t=162 (Official Video of Japanese force, and at 2min42sec, SH-60J/K shooting 7.62mm MG.)

https://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/6f ... addfbd.jpg
(picture of 7.62mm MG)
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