Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
Ok, I found what I was looking for. It was FLAK that got the transports during the period 24-28 Aug 43. That probably wasn't over Chungking. That was when the Chindits attacked Warazup in the NE corner of Burma. I'll bet he was trying to fly in supply.
My next question is, why isn't the flak I have in Chungking shooting at anything? Range? Let me check to see what's there.
My next question is, why isn't the flak I have in Chungking shooting at anything? Range? Let me check to see what's there.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
In addition to all the AAMGs, I have 32x 75mm T88 AA Guns. They have a 25k ceiling. If his transports are dropping supply from that height, the supply would be landing all over the countryside.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
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In addition to all the AAMGs, I have 32x 75mm T88 AA Guns. They have a 25k ceiling. If his transports are dropping supply from that height, the supply would be landing all over the countryside.
Not sure AA shoots at transports dropping supplies or men. Only when I've ever hit them was with CAP or LRCAP over the destination base.
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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
Well, this is what I saw on 8/24/43:
AIR TRANSPORT PHASE
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
** C-46A Commando destroyed by flak
** C-46A Commando destroyed by flak
** C-46A Commando destroyed by flak
** C-87 Liberator destroyed by flak
:: C-87 Liberator damaged by flak
:: C-87 Liberator damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
No confirmation what they were carrying or where it was, unfortunately.
81 Oscars sweeping Chungking tomorrow. If nothing, then I'll try the LRCAP with tanks the way Michael suggested.
AIR TRANSPORT PHASE
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
** Dakota III destroyed by flak
:: Dakota III damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
** C-46A Commando destroyed by flak
** C-46A Commando destroyed by flak
** C-46A Commando destroyed by flak
** C-87 Liberator destroyed by flak
:: C-87 Liberator damaged by flak
:: C-87 Liberator damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
:: C-46A Commando damaged by flak
No confirmation what they were carrying or where it was, unfortunately.
81 Oscars sweeping Chungking tomorrow. If nothing, then I'll try the LRCAP with tanks the way Michael suggested.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
Teach us the dao of flying tanks please!! [:D]ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
If nothing, then I'll try the LRCAP with tanks the way Michael suggested.
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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
lol, that's DROP tanks. [:D]
Got the turn. A couple errands and I'm running it.
Got the turn. A couple errands and I'm running it.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
What makes you sure it's Chungking that is getting the air supply and not an Allied unit out in the wilderness?
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What makes you sure it's Chungking that is getting the air supply and not an Allied unit out in the wilderness?
The Chinese AV keeps rising even with the bombing. Supply is coming from somewhere. 100 transports are at Ledo. Now you have me thinking again. I'm going to go over the last week's turns to see what the raw manpower looks like.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
It could also be units that are coming back … IIRC at least some of the devices arrive in ready state, not sure about all.
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It could also be units that are coming back … IIRC at least some of the devices arrive in ready state, not sure about all.
It's only Chinese squad-type devices that come back IIRC, so Chinese Rifle, Cavalry and maybe (?) MMG squads. Could possibly account for your rise in AV - keep track of the number of units present. Given that they resurrect every 30 days it's possible you're seeing troops that you already destroyed in the siege reappear - which is great for you: more VP's.
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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
Yep, you guys are right. Units are coming back. They're getting back about 0-2 units a day. You're right, it is great for VPs, but I'm done with Chungking. I want it to be over. I'm just a couple days away from the big experiment: the 11k AV attack. I'm really curious to see what effect that has on the Chinese vs. 2x 5-6k AV attacks during the same timeframe.
The sweeps did nothing, as expected. I'm about ready to send the turn back. There will be ~40 or so Oscars on LRCAP from 4 hexes out with drop tanks next turn. (The other sentai of Oscars will resume strafing Chungking, and doing nice execution too.) If that doesn't work, then screw it. Either he's not sending in supply (which I seriously doubt) or he's using stealth transports. I'll just move on from the attempt to kill transports.
The sweeps did nothing, as expected. I'm about ready to send the turn back. There will be ~40 or so Oscars on LRCAP from 4 hexes out with drop tanks next turn. (The other sentai of Oscars will resume strafing Chungking, and doing nice execution too.) If that doesn't work, then screw it. Either he's not sending in supply (which I seriously doubt) or he's using stealth transports. I'll just move on from the attempt to kill transports.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
10 Dec 43
Sub War
Vava'u is an Allied hub, and I've had some good hunting there. Guess I struck a nerve recently because the place has several ASW TFs there now. One found and hit the I-2 once causing moderate damage: 43-38(15)-10(6)-0. She's headed home.
5 Fleet
Just the usual Sally raid on Umnak. The Japanese troops there continue to prepare for the deliberate assault in about a week's time.
4 Fleet
The US carriers are at it again. A raid of 36 Dauntlesses escorted by 60 Hellcats it the airbase at Nauru Island causing light damage. I have a sub that'll reach them the day after tomorrow. I'm keeping an eye on them, just in case.
I have the 3 Unryus available at Saipan and the Shokaku and Kaga at Babeldaob (along with a smattering of baby flattops there too). In addition, Akagi and Soryu will complete their repairs in 4 and 5 days respectively (at Kobe). They'll then head out to join up with Shokaku and Kaga. It looks like there are only 2 US CVs in the TF. I'd love to gang up on them with 7 Japanese CVs. We'll see. If they're still goofing around tomorrow, I'll probably send Shokaku and Kaga to Saipan and make a merry fleet to go a hunting.
SE Fleet
Same ole thing. 59x 2E sorties against Rabaul and 17x 4E sorties against Hollandia. No damage.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
I saw that the level 4 airfield at Kalemyo is being upgraded, so I sent the Helens there today. A total of 58 Helens flew (in 3 waves) causing little damage and losing a Helen to flak vs. a single Hurricane to the escorting Oscars.
A couple Hurricanes were shot down over Akyab and a couple Warhawks were lost over Ledo. Slim pickings today.
China
With no Oscars bombing, the aerial bombardment was lackluster. Only 2 squads were killed (1 infantry) and another 121 were disabled.
The artillery bombardment was a little better killing 31 steps (27 infantry) and disabling another 29.
The Chinese infantry squad kill count is up to 182 for the month. Half of the replacements squads already!
The sweep of Chungking did nothing at all. I'm trying LRCAP with drop tanks from 4 hexes away tomorrow to see if anything happens. If not, I give up!
Other Stuff
Status of damaged carriers:
Akagi: 3-1(1)-0-0, repaired in 4 days
Soryu: 14-0-0-0, repaired in 5 days
Zuikaku: 3-50(50)-20(19)-0, repaired in 147 days
Chuyo: 20-3(3)-0-0, repaired in 12 days.
Sub War
Vava'u is an Allied hub, and I've had some good hunting there. Guess I struck a nerve recently because the place has several ASW TFs there now. One found and hit the I-2 once causing moderate damage: 43-38(15)-10(6)-0. She's headed home.
5 Fleet
Just the usual Sally raid on Umnak. The Japanese troops there continue to prepare for the deliberate assault in about a week's time.
4 Fleet
The US carriers are at it again. A raid of 36 Dauntlesses escorted by 60 Hellcats it the airbase at Nauru Island causing light damage. I have a sub that'll reach them the day after tomorrow. I'm keeping an eye on them, just in case.
I have the 3 Unryus available at Saipan and the Shokaku and Kaga at Babeldaob (along with a smattering of baby flattops there too). In addition, Akagi and Soryu will complete their repairs in 4 and 5 days respectively (at Kobe). They'll then head out to join up with Shokaku and Kaga. It looks like there are only 2 US CVs in the TF. I'd love to gang up on them with 7 Japanese CVs. We'll see. If they're still goofing around tomorrow, I'll probably send Shokaku and Kaga to Saipan and make a merry fleet to go a hunting.
SE Fleet
Same ole thing. 59x 2E sorties against Rabaul and 17x 4E sorties against Hollandia. No damage.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
I saw that the level 4 airfield at Kalemyo is being upgraded, so I sent the Helens there today. A total of 58 Helens flew (in 3 waves) causing little damage and losing a Helen to flak vs. a single Hurricane to the escorting Oscars.
A couple Hurricanes were shot down over Akyab and a couple Warhawks were lost over Ledo. Slim pickings today.
China
With no Oscars bombing, the aerial bombardment was lackluster. Only 2 squads were killed (1 infantry) and another 121 were disabled.
The artillery bombardment was a little better killing 31 steps (27 infantry) and disabling another 29.
The Chinese infantry squad kill count is up to 182 for the month. Half of the replacements squads already!
The sweep of Chungking did nothing at all. I'm trying LRCAP with drop tanks from 4 hexes away tomorrow to see if anything happens. If not, I give up!
Other Stuff
Status of damaged carriers:
Akagi: 3-1(1)-0-0, repaired in 4 days
Soryu: 14-0-0-0, repaired in 5 days
Zuikaku: 3-50(50)-20(19)-0, repaired in 147 days
Chuyo: 20-3(3)-0-0, repaired in 12 days.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
Hi, Is he flying recon over those bases where his bombing is have no effect? (in other words what is his detection level?)

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
I don't know which particular Oscar model is being used but intercepting enemy transport operations from an airfield 4 hexes distant is too far away for some of the Oscar models.
There are two distinct elements involved in intercepting transport aircraft. The first element involves range of the interceptors. and distance to target At a distance of 4 hexes and if the latest beta is used, the interceptors need a minimum range of 14 hexes. If this element is met an interception message is displayed. This message does not mean air combat ensued. For air combat to ensue requires the second element, a die roll to be passed. The greater is the distance to target, the less likely combat ensues. The longer legged is the interceptor the more likely the die roll is passed.
Alfred
There are two distinct elements involved in intercepting transport aircraft. The first element involves range of the interceptors. and distance to target At a distance of 4 hexes and if the latest beta is used, the interceptors need a minimum range of 14 hexes. If this element is met an interception message is displayed. This message does not mean air combat ensued. For air combat to ensue requires the second element, a die roll to be passed. The greater is the distance to target, the less likely combat ensues. The longer legged is the interceptor the more likely the die roll is passed.
Alfred
RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)
Mike's obsessive quest for transport interdiction.


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Alfred - what is the formula for transport interdiction?
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Interdict the transport sub!ORIGINAL: Zorch
Mike's obsessive quest for transport interdiction.
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That's more like US sub surfaces, and you are there all alone in your dingy PBORIGINAL: witpqsInterdict the transport sub!ORIGINAL: Zorch
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