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Post by obvert »

[font="Times New Roman"]April 11, 1945[/font]
At Etorufu, after a few good stands against high sweeping Ki-83, the FM-2 groups finally paid the butchers bill. I changed things up and flew Georges and Franks from Bihoro as well as the Ki-83s. The Georges set the stage with 10:1. The Franks did even better. By the end of the day very few planes were left of the 100+ the started off there. Having the better airframes flying high CAP over the FM-2 allowed some possibility of success here, but the Wildcats on their own can't quite handle these late war airframes.

In the CBI the Allies initiate a large all-in bombing campaign against the retreating troops. I don't think there are enough to really cause problems here, but it does present an opportunity. There were no sweeps!

I'll send a rather large LR CAP over the two hexes for tomorrow. [;)]
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Morning Air attack on Etorofu , at 128,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 42,370 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 41

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1
P-38L Lightning x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 108
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 12 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x N1K5-J George sweeping at 39370 feet

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Morning Air attack on Etorofu , at 128,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 44,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 26

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1
P-38L Lightning x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 67
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Morning Air attack on Etorofu , at 128,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 38,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 88

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1
P-38L Lightning x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 50
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 19 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
66 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet

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Morning Air attack on Etorofu , at 128,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 42,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 21

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1
P-38L Lightning x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Morning Air attack on 31st Division, at 55,56 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 12
Beaufighter VIc x 16
Beaufighter TF.X x 21
Wellington Ic x 3
Wellington B.X x 9
DB-7B x 6
Hudson I x 11
A-20G Havoc x 27
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25D1 Mitchell x 5
B-25J1 Mitchell x 6
B-25J11 Mitchell x 28
P-38H Lightning x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 2 damaged
Beaufighter VIc: 1 damaged
Beaufighter TF.X: 4 damaged
Beaufighter TF.X: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington B.X: 5 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Bihoro , at 123,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 69
P-51D Mustang x 41

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 44 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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[font="Times New Roman"]April 12, 1945[/font]
On the 12th massive LR CAP meets very big bombing raids over troops in Burma. The sweeps and escorts defended the main strike effectively, but smaller packages take big hits to even things out, and the unswept hex hit by scores of Beaufighters results in heavy losses for the Allies. He's using everything here, even old DB-7B, Hudsons and Blenheims! If caught alone they're easy picking.

Troops retreat in order and only the rear guard takes a hit, but does it's job of slowing Allied progress.
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Morning Air attack on 105th Division, at 56,56 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 22
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-83 x 27

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 105th Division, at 56,56 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-83 x 22

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 91st Naval Guard Unit, at 56,56 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-83 x 18

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 22
Blenheim VD x 5
DB-7B x 3
Hudson I x 11
A-20G Havoc x 34
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-24J Liberator x 24
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25H Mitchell x 2
B-25J1 Mitchell x 11
B-25J11 Mitchell x 29
P-38H Lightning x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 6 damaged
Blenheim VD: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 3 damaged
P-38H Lightning: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 15th Const Co , at 56,56 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-83 x 11

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 9
Wellington Ic x 10
Wellington B.X x 2
B-24J Liberator x 9
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25J1 Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 105th Division, at 56,56 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 3

Allied aircraft
DB-7B x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
DB-7B: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x DB-7B bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Division, at 55,57 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 4
J2M3 Jack x 5
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-83 x 16
Ki-84r Frank x 19
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 16
Beaufighter TF.X x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged
Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed by flak
Beaufighter TF.X: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged
Beaufighter TF.X: 1 destroyed by flak


Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufighter TF.X bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 31st Division, at 55,57 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
J2M3 Jack x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-83 x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter TF.X x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter TF.X: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Beaufighter TF.X bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 56,56 (near Moulmein)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16655 troops, 166 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 489

Defending force 2022 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Allied adjusted assault: 193

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 27 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1345 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
26th Indian Brigade
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
22nd (East African) Brigade
754th Tank Battalion
7th New Chinese Corps

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
15th Const Co

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[font="Times New Roman"]April 13-14, 1945[/font]
Took the day off from LR CAP in Burma on the 13th to deal with high service rating planes. Always the problem with Japan, but it's also fine to keep him guessing.

The Allies get clear skies and do a bit more than on previous turns, but not enough to make much of a difference here. These hits are spread over a LOT of troops. Soon all of these will be with some very good AA but now there are only two units left travelling with the rear guard. The Allies did vaporise an Army HQ today as it lagged just behind, but others will make it out just fine.

On the 14th there were lots of sweeps and bombing runs all over. The Allies went big for Sapporo on the same turn I set naval strikes against troops being lifted from Wakkanai. My strikes found only some LST/LCI near Kushiro, as only a few groups flew in spite of good detection of several other TFs in range. Frustrating, since our sweeps cleared the air easily over Wakkanai, getting about 8:1 over the old airframes there.

All of the best went for Sapporo, and they got about 2:1, but a lot of Corsairs lost on the day, and presumably a lot of Allied pilots. The following bombing strikes hit the resources pretty hard, but also took heavy losses to flak after the fighters were depleted by the big initial strike. Probably about 40 bombers lost on the day to flak/ops.

In Burma I set sweeps to hit Rangoon, and they found only older airframes. Easy pickings. The Allies swept over the troops to no resistance. [:)]
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Guards Division, at 55,57 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 17
Beaufighter TF.X x 5
Spitfire VIII x 15
Wellington B.X x 17
DB-7B x 3
Hudson I x 3
A-20G Havoc x 35
B-24J Liberator x 20
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25H Mitchell x 2
B-25J1 Mitchell x 11
B-25J11 Mitchell x 26
P-51D Mustang x 30

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 5 damaged
Wellington B.X: 2 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
452 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 55,56 (near Moulmein)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 281592 troops, 3406 guns, 2749 vehicles, Assault Value = 9548

Defending force 3216 troops, 0 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 5786

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 5786 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2113 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 261 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 61 (61 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
29th British Brigade
3rd New Chinese Corps
11th Indian Division
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
7th Indian Division
5th Chinese Corps
7th Australian Division
Americal Infantry Division
32nd Infantry Division
18th British Division
14th Indian Division
40th Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
19th Motorised Division
6th Australian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
23rd Indian Division
41st Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
5th Indian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
9th Indian Division
11th (East African) Division
9th Australian Division
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
Y' Force
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2/11th Field Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
14th Army
86th Medium Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
134th Medium Regiment

Defending units:
28th Army

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Night Naval bombardment of Sapporo at 120,51

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-II Tony: 6 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-Sa Irving: 15 damaged
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed on ground
B6N2a Jill: 3 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K5-J George: 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 6 damaged
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
J2M5 Jack: 10 damaged
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-84r Frank: 21 damaged
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 5 damaged
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
A7M2 Sam: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Cushing
DD Shaw
DD Fanning
DD Dunlap

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 46

DD Perkins firing at Sapporo

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Morning Air attack on Wakkanai , at 122,48

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 43,370 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 51
Ki-84r Frank x 32

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 22
FM-2 Wildcat x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 7 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 3 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Wakkanai , at 122,48

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 40,370 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 58

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 4
FM-2 Wildcat x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x N1K5-J George sweeping at 39370 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 43,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 38

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12
Seafire L.III x 3
Wildcat V x 18
Kittyhawk IV x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 33
P-40N5 Warhawk x 11
P-51B Mustang x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Wildcat V: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 44,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 29

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 9
Seafire L.III x 2
Wildcat V x 15
Kittyhawk IV x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 28
P-40N5 Warhawk x 10
P-51B Mustang x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Seafire L.III: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk IV: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 39,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 47

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 4
Seafire L.III x 1
Wildcat V x 10
Kittyhawk IV x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 19
P-40N5 Warhawk x 9
P-51B Mustang x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Seafire L.III: 1 destroyed
Wildcat V: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IV: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kushiro at 124,54

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 36
D4Y4 Judy x 41

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LST-768, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
LCI-445
DE LeRay Wilson, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-714, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

LCI-790
DE Leland E. Thomas, Bomb hits 1, on fire
LST-741
LCI-989, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LST-715
LCI-792
LCI-791, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LST-748, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
LST-767, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Wakkanai , at 122,48

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 187 NM, estimated altitude 43,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-83 x 56

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet
29 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 15
A7M2 Sam x 43
J2M5 Jack x 46
N1K5-J George x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 43
Ki-84b Frank x 15
Ki-84r Frank x 9
Ki-100-II Tony x 43

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 7 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 9
A7M2 Sam x 37
J2M5 Jack x 43
N1K5-J George x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 34
Ki-84b Frank x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 36

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x F6F-5 Hellcat sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 6
A7M2 Sam x 25
J2M5 Jack x 36
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 26
Ki-84b Frank x 6
Ki-84r Frank x 3
Ki-100-II Tony x 32

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 6
A7M2 Sam x 18
J2M5 Jack x 30
N1K5-J George x 2
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 21
Ki-84b Frank x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 2
Ki-100-II Tony x 26

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Corsair II sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 39,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 3
A7M2 Sam x 9
J2M5 Jack x 25
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Ki-100-II Tony x 22

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 13
F4U-1D Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Corsair IV sweeping at 39300 feet
1 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Guards Division, at 55,57 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 18
Beaufighter TF.X x 2
Mosquito FB.VI x 4
Spitfire VIII x 16
DB-7B x 4
Hudson I x 3
A-20G Havoc x 29
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-24J Liberator x 25
B-25D1 Mitchell x 7
B-25J1 Mitchell x 9
B-25J11 Mitchell x 36

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 4 damaged
Beaufighter TF.X: 1 damaged
DB-7B: 1 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 43,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
A7M2 Sam x 7
J2M5 Jack x 19
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-84b Frank x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Ki-100-II Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 1
J2M5 Jack x 5
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 13
Liberator GR.VI x 3
Thunderbolt II x 13
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
B-24J Liberator x 55
B-29-1 Superfort x 32
B-29-25 Superfort x 68
F-6D Mustang x 16
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 15
P-51D Mustang x 12
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 3
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed

B-24J Liberator: 16 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-1 Superfort: 12 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 31 damaged
F-6D Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed

PBJ-1D Mitchell: 2 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 421

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 2
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 7
Liberator GR.VI x 12
F4U-1D Corsair x 11
B-24J Liberator x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 29
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 17
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 71
PV-1 Ventura x 36
PV-2 Harpoon x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 4 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 18 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 8 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed by flak
PV-2 Harpoon: 6 damaged

Resources hits 111
Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PV-2 Harpoon bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 6
Thunderbolt II x 4
B-24J Liberator x 6
B-29-25 Superfort x 20
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 11

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 11 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 2 damaged

Resources hits 68

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PBJ-1J Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 45,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 15

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2
Wildcat V x 8
Kittyhawk IV x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-40N5 Warhawk x 4
P-51B Mustang x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IV: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed


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[font="Times New Roman"]April 15-16, 1945[/font]
On the 15th we both sweep into no opposition. The Allies try to cut behind our lines with a paradrop at Tavoy. The one Heavy arty unit there somehow fights off a superior force while retreating into the jungle.

I noticed the Allies sending ships into the Kushiro area, and sent sweeps in for the 16th. Sure enough, a very hefty CAP was up over the base. This one was set with top of the line P-47N flying high, P-51D and Spit VIII in the mix. Results were decent but just less than 1:1 at the end.

Down South some of that was made up jumping a few bombing runs, but sweeps also took a toll there. On the day we ended up at about 60 lost to 40 shot down, or 2:3.
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round combat at Tavoy (54,60)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 781 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Defending force 660 troops, 12 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 8

Japanese adjusted defense: 10

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
44th (Support) Bn /2

Defending units:
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 42,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 38

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
Spitfire VIII x 6
P-38L Lightning x 18
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-47N Thunderbolt x 35
P-51D Mustang x 35
FM-2 Wildcat x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 39,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 49

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 11
P-38L Lightning x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-47N Thunderbolt x 31
P-51D Mustang x 34
FM-2 Wildcat x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 86 NM, estimated altitude 39,270 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 49

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 6
P-38L Lightning x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-47N Thunderbolt x 26
P-51D Mustang x 29
FM-2 Wildcat x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 38270 feet

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Morning Air attack on 100th Division, at 55,57 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 20
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 6
Ki-83 x 19
Ki-84r Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 5
A-20G Havoc x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim VD: 3 destroyed
A-20G Havoc: 2 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on 100th Division, at 55,57 , near Moulmein

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 17
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-83 x 17
Ki-84r Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 14
B-24J Liberator x 16
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-20G Havoc: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 57,56 (near Rahaeng)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1578 troops, 0 guns, 124 vehicles, Assault Value = 379

Defending force 1389 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Allied adjusted assault: 39

Japanese adjusted defense: 31

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
150th RAC Regiment
22nd (East African) Brigade
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
7th New Chinese Corps

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
15th Const Co
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A good layered CAP that had the riffraff don low, which our planes dived on, and then the high P-47s and P-51s dived back down on them.

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[font="Times New Roman"]April 17-18, 1945[/font]
The next few turns have some sporadic action. Not much other than bombing runs in Burma. On the 18th the Allies to send an all-out strike to Sapporo. This does effectively take out much of the remaining industry and resources. It's taken about 9 months, and a lot of planes, but his base will now be less well defended as there isn't much to hit left. Still a bit of LI.

Our CAP again managed to take a good tithe for the losses. [;)]
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Guards Division, at 55,58 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 25
Spitfire VIII x 15
Thunderbolt I x 24
Wellington B.X x 33
DB-7B x 4
Hudson I x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
A-20G Havoc x 45
B-24J Liberator x 17
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 2
B-25J1 Mitchell x 8
B-25J11 Mitchell x 30
P-51D Mustang x 50

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 6 damaged
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington B.X: 3 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 38,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 15
A7M2 Sam x 13
N1K5-J George x 40
Ki-84b Frank x 17

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 2 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 41,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 11
A7M2 Sam x 7
N1K5-J George x 29
Ki-84b Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 4 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 8
A7M2 Sam x 3
N1K5-J George x 19
Ki-84b Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 5 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 27

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 16 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 12

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 6 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 2 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 4
Thunderbolt II x 18
B-24J Liberator x 17
PV-1 Ventura x 17

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 11 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed by flak

Heavy Industry hits 3
Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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[font="Times New Roman"]April 19-20, 1945[/font]
Not much happens on the 19th, but as the retreat in Burma progresses, the IJA troops move into a much more defended hex and Allied bombing runs become a much more difficult proposition for them. [;)]

I'm sure it was a shock to lose 30-40 bombers to flak. Lets see if the bombing progresses at the same volume. They do very little damage in the x3 hex anyway, so I say keep em coming!
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Morning Air attack on 12th Base Force, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 21
Wellington B.X x 3
A-20G Havoc x 3
B-24J Liberator x 3
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25J1 Mitchell x 6
B-25J11 Mitchell x 3
P-38H Lightning x 17
P-51D Mustang x 51

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 16 damaged
B-25D Mitchell: 2 destroyed by flak
Wellington B.X: 2 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 destroyed by flak
A-20G Havoc: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 102nd Division, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 7
B-24J Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 7 damaged
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Division, at 55,58 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter TF.X x 25
Mosquito FB.VI x 8
A-20G Havoc x 15
B-24J Liberator x 3
P-51D Mustang x 2

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter TF.X: 17 damaged
Beaufighter TF.X: 1 destroyed by flak
Mosquito FB.VI: 5 damaged
Mosquito FB.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
A-20G Havoc: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 18th Army, at 55,58 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington B.X x 9
A-20G Havoc x 4
B-24J Liberator x 8
B-25J1 Mitchell x 6
B-25J11 Mitchell x 6

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington B.X: 8 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 destroyed by flak
A-20G Havoc: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington B.X bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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[font="Times New Roman"]April 21-22, 1945[/font]
Not much again for a few days here. CR is still bombing the base at Truk, which I haven't touched other than to send a few more troops when some ships appeared nearby. Supply is getting low, but so are the 4Es attacking, and every other day on average one goes down.

The Allies took the day off on the 21st bombing in Burma and began again 10k higher. [:)]

Not many results from up there, but losses were reduced.
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Afternoon Air attack on Truk , at 112,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 1
B-24D1 Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Division, at 55,58 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 7
Blenheim VD x 3
Wellington Ic x 5
Wellington B.X x 16
DB-7B x 4
Hudson I x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 11
A-20G Havoc x 44
B-24J Liberator x 19
B-25D1 Mitchell x 2
B-25H Mitchell x 2
B-25J1 Mitchell x 3
B-25J11 Mitchell x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 2 damaged
Blenheim VD: 1 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged
Wellington B.X: 9 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 19000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Truk , at 112,108

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7
B-24D1 Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Something is about to happen. I noticed some ships moving in the Kuriles area last turn. I set more search planes for the 23rd and lo and behold, there looks to be a new operation unfolding off the NE coast of Honshu.

Is he coming for Sendai/Iwaki or Hachinoe? I am guessing it's destined for another location. Why move so far off shore toward NE Honshu, easily under LR CAP range from Kushiro?

If it is moving on, the question is where?


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[font="Times New Roman"]April 23, 1945[/font]
In other news the Allies sweep Sendai with P-47N flying up high. I would have thought they'd have their way here, but I've set my normal low CAP and it seems the low detection time of 3 minutes may have actually helped the CAP in this situation. It looks like few planes were up when the raid was detected, but by the time the sweepers had dived to low levels, they met a big low layered CAP in the low bands. A lot of planes scrambled and the" intercepting now" message for each group had about half of each group up and intercepting.

Five groups were involved in the sweeps, and 95 total P-47N. Of those reports show an exact 1:1 loss ratio and 44 Allied planes lost in A to A action. With ops losses that should be about a half month's production. Much better than I'd ever expect. I wonder if Allied pilot quality is now starting to lower after these many months of heavy offensive action over Japanese bases. In the pilots lost screen we lost 19 KIA and 19 WIA this turn. I'd guess Allied losses were higher in KIA and MIA.

No bombers followed, so this begs the question; why were they sweeping here? Is this to clear the path for invasion? Or make me think this is a target? Maybe tomorrow will tell.

Down South the flak gunners find the altitude and range and down another 15 or so bombers. Nice.
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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 49
Ki-84r Frank x 46
Ki-100-II Tony x 24

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
30th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 17 on standby, 21 scrambling)
20 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 38270.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 35 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
104th Sentai with Ki-100-II Tony (5 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
21 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 36090.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 46
Ki-84r Frank x 39
Ki-100-II Tony x 22

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 32
Ki-84r Frank x 30
Ki-100-II Tony x 17

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 8 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 21
Ki-84r Frank x 19
Ki-100-II Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 11
Spitfire VIII x 30
Wellington B.X x 24
DB-7B x 4
Hudson I x 3
A-20G Havoc x 6
B-24J Liberator x 13
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25J11 Mitchell x 10
P-38H Lightning x 17
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4
P-51D Mustang x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 5 damaged
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington B.X: 10 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 destroyed by flak
DB-7B: 1 destroyed by flak
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed by flak
A-20G Havoc: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 12 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 6 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 19000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 3
Thunderbolt I x 12
Hudson I x 7
F4U-1D Corsair x 11
B-24J Liberator x 8
B-25D1 Mitchell x 2
B-25H Mitchell x 2
B-25J11 Mitchell x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim VD: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 3 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hudson I bombing from 19000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Something is about to happen. I noticed some ships moving in the Kuriles area last turn.


Don't forget to use all your tools here. MTBs, Midgets are valuable in running into and out of the invasion hex (although midgets might be a VP loser). If you have enough reserves on trains, you may easily bottle up the invasion beach especially with level 6 forts or so. Minefields and CD guns are always a VP winner for a bit, especially for a bottled up invasion hex.

When given lots of ground units to target the naval bombardments will focus on large divisions & cd units first, and normally never target the armor units.

Where do you have the Wake CD gun unit?



A tricky thought is to LRCAP the invasion hex at night, and hope to shoot down the spotting aircraft.

Some Jills on night naval attack, restricted to the invasion hex, can lessen bombardment damage too.

Is this the big one?

With respect to the P47...sometimes you just get a good roll.[;)] But better tactics always helps!
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ORIGINAL: obvert

[font="Times New Roman"]April 23, 1945[/font]
In other news the Allies sweep Sendai with P-47N flying up high. I would have thought they'd have their way here, but I've set my normal low CAP and it seems the low detection time of 3 minutes may have actually helped the CAP in this situation. It looks like few planes were up when the raid was detected, but by the time the sweepers had dived to low levels, they met a big low layered CAP in the low bands. A lot of planes scrambled and the" intercepting now" message for each group had about half of each group up and intercepting.


What if...if you were setting some of your fighter groups in "training" mission?
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ORIGINAL: obvert

[font="Times New Roman"]April 23, 1945[/font]
In other news the Allies sweep Sendai with P-47N flying up high. I would have thought they'd have their way here, but I've set my normal low CAP and it seems the low detection time of 3 minutes may have actually helped the CAP in this situation. It looks like few planes were up when the raid was detected, but by the time the sweepers had dived to low levels, they met a big low layered CAP in the low bands. A lot of planes scrambled and the" intercepting now" message for each group had about half of each group up and intercepting.


What if...if you were setting some of your fighter groups in "training" mission?

Not sure what you are getting at?

Why would I do that?
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ORIGINAL: obvert

Something is about to happen. I noticed some ships moving in the Kuriles area last turn.


Don't forget to use all your tools here. MTBs, Midgets are valuable in running into and out of the invasion hex (although midgets might be a VP loser). If you have enough reserves on trains, you may easily bottle up the invasion beach especially with level 6 forts or so. Minefields and CD guns are always a VP winner for a bit, especially for a bottled up invasion hex.

When given lots of ground units to target the naval bombardments will focus on large divisions & cd units first, and normally never target the armor units.

Where do you have the Wake CD gun unit?



A tricky thought is to LRCAP the invasion hex at night, and hope to shoot down the spotting aircraft.

Some Jills on night naval attack, restricted to the invasion hex, can lessen bombardment damage too.

Is this the big one?

With respect to the P47...sometimes you just get a good roll.[;)] But better tactics always helps!

I'm not sure yet this will even go to Honshu. If it does, I agree. All big CD gun units are there now and in strat mode, one of the three tank divisions, several good experienced divisions and a ton of big arty. forts at all critical bases in the clear are either at 8-9 or nearing level 8.

I haven't mined anything in a while. Very few ships left to do it effectively, and hard to predict where to put them. Not many midgets or MTBs left either.

this turn I'll try some distant night and day attacks as the spawn moves along. Usually CR is more condensed in his approach.
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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

ORIGINAL: obvert

[font="Times New Roman"]April 23, 1945[/font]
In other news the Allies sweep Sendai with P-47N flying up high. I would have thought they'd have their way here, but I've set my normal low CAP and it seems the low detection time of 3 minutes may have actually helped the CAP in this situation. It looks like few planes were up when the raid was detected, but by the time the sweepers had dived to low levels, they met a big low layered CAP in the low bands. A lot of planes scrambled and the" intercepting now" message for each group had about half of each group up and intercepting.


What if...if you were setting some of your fighter groups in "training" mission?

Not sure what you are getting at?

Why would I do that?
To raise the possibility to Avoid engagement with fighters

And the possibility to engage unescorted bombers?

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ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner





What if...if you were setting some of your fighter groups in "training" mission?

Not sure what you are getting at?

Why would I do that?
To raise the possibility to Avoid engagement with fighters

And the possibility to engage unescorted bombers?


Fighter in training will act as CAP if their base is attacked. Not sure at what penalty though.
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Not always. They often avoid
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Wargamr did this to me Luzon, put the warhawks on training missions. They avoided all sweeps, but intercepted bombing missions. Didn't really matter, the P40 pilots were poor and the escorting Zeroes (or LRCAP) ate them alive.

There may very well be a penalty for doing this.

This happened over several days.
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ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner





What if...if you were setting some of your fighter groups in "training" mission?

Not sure what you are getting at?

Why would I do that?
To raise the possibility to Avoid engagement with fighters

And the possibility to engage unescorted bombers?


I think you're missing the point of my last post. [;)]

I WANT to engage his fighters. If I down the fighters, he'll have less success bombing. Also, the training "CAP" has a chance to intercept but won't do it as effectively as fighters on CAP.
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Another day, another new thing learned. [&o]
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