Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Wargamr did this to me Luzon, put the warhawks on training missions. They avoided all sweeps, but intercepted bombing missions. Didn't really matter, the P40 pilots were poor and the escorting Zeroes (or LRCAP) ate them alive.
There may very well be a penalty for doing this.
This happened over several days.
the 4Es don't really need a lot of help to get through.
ORIGINAL: obvert
2:1 - Okinawa
3:1 - Formosa
4:1 - PI
5:1 - Chinese coastline
7:1 - Korean West Coast
10:1 - Iwo/Chichi Jima
What do you think?
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: obvert
2:1 - Okinawa
3:1 - Formosa
4:1 - PI
5:1 - Chinese coastline
7:1 - Korean West Coast
10:1 - Iwo/Chichi Jima
What do you think?
What no Honshu?
My best guess, going on CRs pattern from his game with John, he will sail along looking for opportunity to invade somewhere. I remember his sailing up the coast of China, taking his time, until he found an appropriate spot. Which means he preps for multiple non railroad hexes, or hexes he can isolate from the rail system.
Now instead of China there are a ton of Japanese Islands to pick from...although, I feel he should just pick an island close to an open ground invasion beach on Honshu, and land at both. I think he needs to be on Honshu with armor, pounding your ground troops with relentless naval bombardments.
Normally, I would think he might be looking to cut off trade to the western Empire, but the game is so late, he needs to be destroying you on Honshu.
Remember he can land off base too!
I also saw the comments about night strikes with the G3M3 in another AAR and I will try some of those with Frances and Peggy (T) mostly.
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
I also saw the comments about night strikes with the G3M3 in another AAR and I will try some of those with Frances and Peggy (T) mostly.
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I'd prioritize the Frances for the night operations if you can. The H-6 radar on the Frances should help significantly.
However, the more the better with night ops at this stage. In an ideal world you can get him to expend large quantities of his shipboard AA ammo. The Allies can replenish underway, but nine hexes off the coast of Japan is a bold move.
Also, throw ships in the way. It doesn't matter what it is. Merchants, patrol boats, sub chasers, E-class PT boats, literally everything that floats. Single ship TF's out to his north, west, south and east. Make a sea of red task forces surrounding islands of green. It doesn't matter that they're merchantmen armed with a single 8cm gun and some AA.
Have heavy LRCAP over a couple of select ships (preferably destroyers) to wear away his CV aircraft.
It will cause absolute chaos. You'll run in to dedicated surface combat groups and have your ships sunk, but you'll waste their ammo and ops points.
You'll run in to CV task forces, and you get a look at his composition, and waste their ammo and ops.
You'll run in to amphib TF's, and they'll wet the bed and run for home. Depending on how many ships there are, you'll probably cause a few Allied ships to bounce off each other.
You'll have ships sunk by the bucket by CV aircraft, but they'll use up limited bombs and torps. They'll run in to your dense LRCAP over random task forces and get slaughtered.
Amongst all of this, have what little is left of the IJN run around like wolves amongst the sheep. Split them into two groups, close and distant. The close group dash out from Honshu bases and hope for a tasty feast by slipping through the escorting screens then run for home before daylight. Aggression in the 50's to keep them from fighting outwith their means. The distant group operates to the far east of the US force, they've the job of snacking on ships that run for home. CR won't like that, so he'll no doubt detach something to go chase them, and you've weakened him to little risk.
It's the strategic version of throwing marbles at the feet of an armoured knight - you won't get through the armour, but you'll make charging you uncomfortable.
Rooting for you Obvert, this is your chance to win!
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: obvert
2:1 - Okinawa
3:1 - Formosa
4:1 - PI
5:1 - Chinese coastline
7:1 - Korean West Coast
10:1 - Iwo/Chichi Jima
What do you think?
What no Honshu?
My best guess, going on CRs pattern from his game with John, he will sail along looking for opportunity to invade somewhere. I remember his sailing up the coast of China, taking his time, until he found an appropriate spot. Which means he preps for multiple non railroad hexes, or hexes he can isolate from the rail system.
Now instead of China there are a ton of Japanese Islands to pick from...although, I feel he should just pick an island close to an open ground invasion beach on Honshu, and land at both. I think he needs to be on Honshu with armor, pounding your ground troops with relentless naval bombardments.
Normally, I would think he might be looking to cut off trade to the western Empire, but the game is so late, he needs to be destroying you on Honshu.
Remember he can land off base too!
If he were landing on Honshu why not in range of his bases on Hokkaido? It doesn't make sense he'd drive farther to get out of LBA range.
I'll add another odds option.
6:1 - Kyushu
This is possible, but still would be odd considering terrain is tougher and there are still a lot of air bases and it's on the rail network. The only reason this makes some sense is to cut off transport from the SRA.
I guess by now the Allies have surface resupply, and CVE resupply for planes for a certainty.
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
A trip around Honshu!
Who knows what the Allies are up to? Do troops loaded on Allied ships not suffer disruption each day?
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Obvert,
Can you check your kamikazes and see which frames carry the SAP or AP bomb load?
Will a torpedo bomber on kamikaze use the 250gp or the 250sap? If a normal torpedo bomber carries the gp, what would the Grace carry as a kamikaze?
I am guessing any bomb load 60kg and smaller uses a gp as in stock there is no SAP at those levels.
Is the switch to SAP or AP automatic for naval and kamikaze strikes, or is it somehow restricted by plane. I can't tell.
I know the 800kg is a hardcoded variable replacement for the torpedo on port strikes.
Is there a random chance there is no SAP available?
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
What got me thinking along these lines...I was pondering which Japanese aircraft carry the SAP or AP on naval strikes?
But for the life of me I can't figure it out from either the editor or screen pictures or tracker.
However, if you check in air frame detail screen it will list the AP and SAP as the bomb load for kamikazes set to kamikaze. It won't list it for bombers set to naval strike though.
In my one game I got to kamikazes, my myojo were pretty darn devastating but as I recall they used 800kg GP bombs. However, if some models use the the SAP or AP I think it does matter because the penetration values are so much higher.
Edit: I went back and checked some of my old, stock, kamikaze attacks. Myojo, Helen, Vals carried GP bombs, the Kate carried two SAP bombs however. Not nearly enough data to form any kind of conclusion.
