Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A)

[Canoerebel]

Paul, I appreciate how you always handle misfortune forthrightly and calmly.

[Miller]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Paul, I appreciate how you always handle misfortune forthrightly and calmly.

It was the beer I tell you![:D]

[Canoerebel]

What about the time my PT boats sank your four Kongos off the Kuriles?

[:D]

[Miller]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

What about the time my PT boats sank your four Kongos off the Kuriles?

[:D]

Was thinking about that actually, never thought I would beat that for number of BBs lost in a single day. Good job I've only 5 left or I could have possibly beaten my new record later in this game....

[Canoerebel]

Well, you probably never ordered a carrier TF to hug the southern edge of the map, east of New Zealand, only to have it run out of fuel...and to be picked up by an enemy cruiser search aircraft...followed a few days later by KB.

[Miller]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Well, you probably never ordered a carrier TF to hug the southern edge of the map, east of New Zealand, only to have it run out of fuel...and to be picked up by an enemy cruiser search aircraft...followed a few days later by KB.

No, but the Allies can lose a gazillion of everything and still win[;)]

[adarbrauner]

ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-2nd March 45

I've had some crazy schemes end in disaster in my years playing AE (usually fueled by alcohol), but this one probably takes the cake.

Reconing Canton and Hong Kong it was apparent he only had a small single Chinese unit at each base. The plan was to land a div at each using massed FT forces in the hope of getting a quick grab of each and give the 6 divs that were kicked out of Kukong an escape route back to Canton. I managed to land the troops in good order at each base without loss, however the next day was a total disaster.

A bombardment fleet of 5 BBs that targeted Hong Kong the night the troops landed did not retreat, due to some idiot failing to notice he had set them to "do not retire". The next day they are pounded and pounded by hundreds of low level 2E bombers. Despite being only 500lb bombs that do not penetrate, they start fires that build and build into inferno's and all 5 are burnt out and sink. Yamato, Musashi, Fuso, Yamashiro and Hyuga all gone, half of my remaining BB fleet, yielding him almost 1300 VPs in the process. (Edit) Yamato and Hyuga did eat a torp each but it was the 50+ bomb hits on each BB that did them in.



To add insult to injury my troops at Canton and Hong Kong feel the wrath of hundreds of 4E bombers and are completely disrupted resulting in their attempts to capture the bases failing. So as well as the 6 divs effectively trapped in the woods from being kicked out of Kukong I have another two at Canton and Hong kong.....I blame the beer[:(]

Please, PLEASE, redo the turn!

[Miller]

Lol if every player who made a mistake was granted a redo no game would get past 1942. Redos are for game engine errors, not silly human mistakes.

[adarbrauner]

Only for the "do not retire" oversight; leave all the rest; BTW, even if they do retire, shall they be out of range?

[Miller]

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Only for the "do not retire" oversight; leave all the rest; BTW, even if they do retire, shall they be out of range?

If they had retired they would have been out of range, but that is war. Kane messed up his carrier aircraft settings in our Feb 44 battle that led to a one sided victory for me and he didn't complain, mistakes happen.

[Bif1961]

I agree mistakes happen for real and war so that they are made with us during our play is just repeating life.

[Lowpe]

Yeah, keep playing. Orders got fouled up is all. Unfortunate, but it happens in war.

Glad to see this game continuing, and for Mr. Kane's return.[:)]

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: Miller

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Paul, I appreciate how you always handle misfortune forthrightly and calmly.

It was the beer I tell you![:D]

What a noble and understandable reason that was!

[Miller]

3rd-10th March 45

China



Zero good news here. Bottom left you can see the stack of 6 Divs in the orange circle that were kicked out of Kukong. I tried to get them through the woods back to Canton before he reinforced it again but several of his armoured units beat them easily to it and kick out the div I landed there with ease. They are now being pounded by 4E bombers every day and will soon be nothing but husks. In hindsight I should have just left them in the WR hex they retreated to where the terrain would have protected them for a few months but its too late now.

The red areas house most of my troops now. Mainly Chinese troops (yellow) will no doubt be pushing on Changsha soon. I'm unsure whether to try and hold there or pull everything back to Hankow for one last stand as I cannot get any supply to flow to Changsha. My main concern however is the Commonwealth stack (green) of 40 units. I've shown both routes I think they may take, whichever he decides I can do little or nothing to stop them.

[Miller]

Here you can he has taken Saipan but all his CVs remain at Guam. One bright spot is several of my subs find a CVE TF half way between Guam and Wake and sink two of them and damage a third, but every sub involved pays with their life. I have barely 20 fleet subs left in the game and about the same number of coastal subs. The bases circled in red are as full as they can be with troops but I can't see them holding out long against a massed attack. Nothing of note going on elsewhere during this period.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Miller

Good news, Tom is back in the game and we are continuing[:)]

Great News!!!


Please convey to him that the community here was concerned about his long absence....

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Miller

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Only for the "do not retire" oversight; leave all the rest; BTW, even if they do retire, shall they be out of range?

If they had retired they would have been out of range, but that is war. Kane messed up his carrier aircraft settings in our Feb 44 battle that led to a one sided victory for me and he didn't complain, mistakes happen.

FOW

Fog of Whiskey [;)]

[Miller]

11th-20th March 45

China

I'm about three months away from total collapse here. The green circle shows his mega 40 unit stack heading for what looks like Shanghai and/or Nanking. I have about 1000 AV at each, but throw in his air power and I doubt I can hold him off for long. The red circle shows his pressure at Changteh and Changsha, both nearly out of supply. It will soon be time to pull out to Hankow for the final stand. The 6 divs that were kicked out of Kukong (orange) are in the process of being eliminated by air and armoured ground forces. I imagine they will be finished off within the next 2-3 weeks.

[Miller]

Mindanao/Marianas





No bright spots here either. His ground forces are moving up Mindanao at a rate of knots, about 1000 AV, half of it armour is brushing aside the few rgts I had in defence. I imagine the rest of it will fall by the end of April. I still have stout defences on Jolo and Puerto Princesa, the latter will be vital as a CAP base for my tanker convoys from Palembang as they will be in low level 2E bomber range from Mindanao now. To the bottom right in the green circle is what I believe most of his CV fleet, possible destination outlined....

[GetAssista]

Why are you not moving anything north from the southern China shores? Cut those roads, make him spend time clearing them. Also you can supply Hankow/Wuchang by ships so it is a better place for battle compared to Changsha.