Godzilla {J: Andav} vs. Rodan {A: witpqs}

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I suspect if the Allies make it priority one from game start to air ship supplies into China, that the fight there turns out very differently. JFB's have gotten very good at taking China, but so far I have only seen a handful of players defend it somewhat effectively.

The Chinese are incredible diggers, and by now there should be several decent Corps dug in at levels 5-6 in some of those mountain passes.

Heh, I imagine it is very hard psychologically to set aside early some of your strong corps to dig in in the defensible hexes south of Chungking or west of Sian. You would always think that this AV is better used right away, plugging some hole or repelling some attack on the frontlines. While in reality one 2:1 retreat will be enough to mess them up forever on said frontlines, compared to 4:1 or 5:1 not being enough if they are left digging for 2 months.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

Heh, I imagine it is very hard psychologically to set aside early some of your strong corps to dig in in the defensible hexes south of Chungking or west of Sian. You would always think that this AV is better used right away, plugging some hole or repelling some attack on the frontlines. While in reality one 2:1 retreat will be enough to mess them up forever on said frontlines, compared to 4:1 or 5:1 not being enough if they are left digging for 2 months.

Just like you are better off forming the 1st Burma at Lashio rather than Rangoon.[;)]

[witpqs]

I only disagree about the digging. I think they dig in slowly. But maybe that's just compared to other Allied units.

I don't have any units with the kind of field fortifications you are citing.

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: witpqs
I only disagree about the digging. I think they dig in slowly. But maybe that's just compared to other Allied units.

Standard starting big Chinese corps (300+ AV, 50% disabled) take 2-3 days/ 12-16 days /36-40 days/ 3+months to dig in to forts 1/2/3/4 in the open while A/B/C divided.
Small corps (70-200 AV ones) is much-much slower in digging

[Lowpe]

What Get said, but they also have quite a few bulldozer equipped units too to help them dig in.

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
What Get said, but they also have quite a few bulldozer equipped units too to help them dig in.

Those don't help in the open though, I tested it. In the wilderness it is every LCU for itself

[witpqs]

I've never divided units to get them to dig faster. Doh!

[witpqs]

Can I post this?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=18W2hgSRKGedu9ftq9iH-twluZQRnnGE8

Why not!

[witpqs]

Apparently they felt the need to put this on an electronic sign north of Phoenix:

DO NOT PARK
ON HIGHWAY
TO PLAY IN SNOW

[Lowpe]

You need some neighbors![:D]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

You need some neighbors![:D]

We're on 10 acre lots, each is 220 yards to a side. My nearest neighbor is directly across the street. Their driveway plus mine makes the houses at least 160 yards apart. [:D]

[RangerJoe]

Over in Flagstaff (90 minutes away) they got 40.3 inches at the airport for the whole storm, 35.9 inches on Thursday alone.

I'll remember not to complain!

One year we got 30 inches for Halloween and it did not melt until April. At that, we were lucky that it did not wait until May.

One time we only had -56 below F while an hour away it was officially -60 below and unofficially -72 in the swamp where the cold air was coming from.

I like to say that the weather is nice as long as the snow is not moving sideways . . .

[RangerJoe]

I've never divided units to get them to dig faster. Doh!

Sometimes a big unit gets hung up at level 2 forts. By dividing it, they will dig deeper and when you combine them, it will at least keep the lowest level of forts. Something to think of if you were to divide units and have each section in echelon. When the other two beat up sections reach the third section, recombine them and all will be dug in to a certain extent.

edited for spelling! [:@]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Over in Flagstaff (90 minutes away) they got 40.3 inches at the airport for the whole storm, 35.9 inches on Thursday alone.

I'll remember not to complain!

One year we got 30 inches for Halloween and it did not melt until April. At that, we were lucky that it did not wait until May.

One time we only had -56 below F while an hour away it was officially -60 below and unofficially -72 in the swamp where the cold air was coming from.

I like to say that the weather is nice as long as the snow is not moving sideways . . .

It was moving sideways. During the storm there were at least two times were there were several inches on the ground (all over) and ten minutes later fierce winds had scraped large sections of earth bare of snow. I figure the slope at the north end of this valley must be one massive snow drift.

[RangerJoe]

Yup, that is how it works. Except around here, they dug big holes in the ground for the snow to go into . . .

[witpqs]

1942 November 26

Our current operations re Burma. Along the Arakan we seek only to hold; in central-northern Burma we advance, the opposite of our earlier dispositions! A 954 AV Chinese corps and two 173 AV units are advancing along this line with a British light tank unit. An Indian division and an Australian Recce Rgt are following. Another Indian division and a heavy armoured unit will likely follow.

Two LRP Bdes are at Ledo preparing for Katha (86% and 66%), they will air drop to aid a frontal assault. HQ's are are moving to follow the ground units.

[Lowpe]

Picture of the 1000 AV Chinese Corp? I always like looking at those monsters.[;)]

How secure is Paoshan?

[witpqs]

1942 November 26

3rd New Chinese Corps.

[witpqs]

Paoshan is OK but not exactly flush. He's brought a lot to the vicinity. There is at least one IJ unit in the city via cross country travel. Another got trashed crossing the river into the city and left by that route. I've sent more there but I am now struggling to hold the Kunming perimeter so can't spare more units just now. He is bombing all three air bases but Paoshan is in the best shape, so many transports are landing there at the moment.

[witpqs]

1942 November 26

INVADED
Paoshan, Mengtze, Urumchi are invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP



Overall
• No carrier sightings.


West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
• Enemy sub activity near Pearl Harbor

• All convoys report no contacts.


Pacific
• No enemy sub activity detected.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• The fleet is not detected, but a number of our subs near the targets are detected so the Empire might be on alert. My timing is impeccable as usual, with 6 of my most advanced sub patrols returning to PH for fuel.


New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
• Enemy sub activity near Sydney, Belep Islands.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Buggers!

Night Naval bombardment of Darwin at 76,124

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Isuzu
DD Isokaze
DD Hayashio

Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Resources hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
Port hits 1

CL Abukuma firing at 23rd Australian Brigade
CL Isuzu firing at Darwin
DD Isokaze firing at 23rd Australian Brigade
DD Hayashio firing at 23rd Australian Brigade

Philippines


DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya


China
• The rogue Empire!

Ground combat at 79,45 (near Patung)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3388 troops, 33 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 81

Defending force 4322 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Japanese adjusted assault: 106

Allied adjusted defense: 27

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1491 casualties reported
Squads: 54 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
22nd/A Division

Defending units:
86th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps

Ground combat at 79,44 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9228 troops, 78 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 890

Defending force 1148 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Japanese adjusted assault: 137

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 137 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1216 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 121 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
41st/C Division
61st Infantry Brigade
36th Division
24th/A Division

Defending units:
63rd Chinese Corps

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
• Enemy sub activity near Bombay.

• Finally!

ASW attack near Rangoon at 49,53

Japanese Ships
DD Ariake

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

SS KXVI is sighted by escort
KXVI diving deep ....
DD Ariake fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ariake fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ariake fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ariake fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ariake fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Sub attack near Bassein at 51,51

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi, Torpedo hits 1
DD Natsushio
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied Ships
SS Trusty

SS Trusty launches 4 torpedoes at CA Nachi
Trusty diving deep ....
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

• Will the hit on Nachi abort a bombardment run?


Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
• Attackus interruptus.

Sub attack near Kume-jima at 93,64

Japanese Ships
DD Teruzuki
AO Naruto
TK Ayazono Maru
TK Ceram Maru
TK Manei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Grampus

SS Grampus launches 2 torpedoes at DD Teruzuki
Grampus diving deep ....
DD Teruzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Teruzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Teruzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Teruzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Teruzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Complete combat report attached.