BrianG v. HYLA (no hard luck)

[BrianG]

last attack. not a lot of ground gained.

I did rout one Russian hq.

[BrianG]

final south.

I retreat forward units
hit and run tactics. very unbecoming of the fine Prussian tradition

[BrianG]

weather forecast correction

It is now expected clear for north and central soviet zones

[BrianG]

Final north.

Leningrad cut off from truck and train supply. Check!

[BrianG]

700 Russian planes. Is this sustainable.

All that bombing, he must be using lots of armaments.

if you compare with earlier report, my flak is definitely getting kills.

[BrianG]

kia report

[Crackaces]

I would agree with you that 17,000 aircraft lost by turn 34 is a good indicator that the losses on turn 34 are not sustainable. The trend I watch is the OOB. For the forum, that represents the number of aircraft attached to airbases vs reserve. Trending how many the Soviets can field gives an indication of the health of the Air Force. What is great about the results of a turn like this is damaged aircraft scraped in the logistics phase. In better weather the Germans can follow up with strikes on the Soviet airfields turning more damaged into destroyed.

What is the total damage on Osinovets? Just to say Stukas are pretty effective at port bombing you will need 70% in your turn to get 67% in the Soviet turn.
One thing I did was to rout out a couple of Soviet units so you don’t have as many fighting your forces while you reduce Osinovets. That is of course debatable because you want to trap as many units as possible. I just found routing out enough so the ones left behind could not resist .. it freed forces early too .. ahh this game is so great !

[BrianG]

you will need 70% in your turn to get 67% in the Soviet turn.

while i'm at it, when I look at the lake ports they show zero in shipping available.

What is the 'official' level for port being shut. Ignorance is sometimes not bliss.

I think I had Osinovets at 6% damage after this raid. they following turn it was again zero.

and then I forgot to bomb one turn.

[BrianG]

Germans can follow up with strikes on the Soviet airfields turning more damaged into destroyed.

Not sure I will be bombing Russian airfields.
I'm afraid of more bad bomber results. Perhaps I am being a bit timid.

Although, I agree It would be smart to do so on turns such as this when Russians bombers have had lots of fatigue.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: BrianG

you will need 70% in your turn to get 67% in the Soviet turn.

while i'm at it, when I look at the lake ports they show zero in shipping available.

What is the 'official' level for port being shut. Ignorance is sometimes not bliss.

I think I had Osinovets at 6% damage after this raid. they following turn it was again zero.

and then I forgot to bomb one turn.

Well the level 3 port is 66.6 or 67%. It will repair 3% every turn. You can look at the 2x3 AAR but the best attack I got I was with Stukas .. something like 13% in one turn.

The shipping is zero for the “ Brianites” (from Sillyflower) but the Soviets are shipping believe me

There is a chart floating around for port levels higher but I am thinking port level 3 is maximum feasible .

[chaos45]

you have to bomb it for several weeks with very large bombing raids if you want to knock it out for supply. The Russians can counter this with massive AA and fighter concentrations...lots of AA guns will reduce the damage the Luftwaffe does significantly.

[EwaldvonKleist]

Port is deactivated if damage>100-100/port level

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

Port is deactivated if damage>100-100/port level

That makes sense...
The other problem is that the higher the port level the harder to inflict damage.

[BrianG]

you have to bomb it for several weeks with very large bombing raids if you want to knock it out for supply. The Russians can counter this with massive AA and fighter concentrations...lots of AA guns will reduce the damage the Luftwaffe does significantly.

best if I cut off supply at its neck. I shall head for the Finnish line pronto! I guess also air attack port.

Kesselring might object.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: BrianG

you have to bomb it for several weeks with very large bombing raids if you want to knock it out for supply. The Russians can counter this with massive AA and fighter concentrations...lots of AA guns will reduce the damage the Luftwaffe does significantly.

best if I cut off supply at its neck. I shall head for the Finnish line pronto! I guess also air attack port.

Kesselring might object.

For the forum ..”large” is relative in WITE. There are economies of scale. 300 level bombers do not tend to get scaled results compared to 200 level bombers. There is a right mix that provides a maximum effect given a sortie.

[chaos45]

the issue would be that you need to do maximum damage in a limited number of raids per turn due to air attack limits...so if you launch a small raid that is stopped you waste an entire week of bombing basically.

[BrianG]

Its bomber madness. [:@]

Rinse and repeat

Wait! That was my line from last turn.

[BrianG]

Middle open

HYLA saves his trapped troops. These low grade units are so happy. But sorry no vodka for you.

[BrianG]

Overnight airplane kia report.

flak kills went from 4392 to 4913. nice shootin' boys!

[BrianG]

and the ground report