MrKane vs Wargamer part II

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OPSEC is vital maybe if you tried some disinformation campaign?
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End of July, 1942

MrKane is still mopping up in the DEI. No signs of major movement on the map. He is reinforcing Horn Island and Port Moresby but does not have a lot of strength in the area as of yet. I am positioning search aircraft to get a better picture of what is going on.



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Mid September 1942

MrKane and I have been really sneaky about the location of our carrier groups. Havent seen either one since a few days after Pearl Harbor.

Fitting that we both got spotted on the same day. I am 2 hexes east of Cairns and MrKane is west of the Shortland islands.



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MrKane figures out where most of my shipping is off the coast of Australia. He sends in a terrifying strike from the KB into an almost completely unprepared port with nearly 300 ships docked.

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9 BB's in port took the brunt of the attack and shielded most of the other ships.... An AA unit in strategic mode might have helped keep some of the force occupied but I am uncertain of that.



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This is probably the worst result the Japanese could possibly expect when attacking with nearly 270 bombers.

Apparently the god of dumbshits was looking down on me this morning.

P.S. The bulk of my cruisers and air craft carriers left this base 2 days ago to do upgrades so they just missed a bullet.

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China surrenders on November 11, 1942 with nearly 640,000 troops surrendering at at 2-1 result.

MrKane has now pulled ahead and will win by VP at the end of the month. We intend to continue.

To assist me and make the game more interesting he has adjusted the database to give me about double the reinforcement aircraft that I am currently getting.

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How have there been so few aircraft losses? November '42 and only 308 A2A losses for the Allies / 196 for the Japs? [&:]
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How have there been so few aircraft losses? November '42 and only 308 A2A losses for the Allies / 196 for the Japs? [&:]

I dont give him an opportunity to sweep into less than 200 fighters and he chooses not to do such.

I just tried to sweep him with 60 British fighters at max height and lost 36 for my trouble. So I dont sweep him much.

Also, I am not allowed to use 4EB on any night time port or naval attacks so either I have to use naval bombardment or 2EB if I dont want to try to meet his fighters in the air.

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Why will there by Auto Victory "at the end of the month"? AV isn't determined monthly. There are yearly threshholds, established on 1/1/4x. Any time that threshold is exceeded, on any day of any month, AV results.
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Why will there by Auto Victory "at the end of the month"? AV isn't determined monthly. There are yearly threshholds, established on 1/1/4x. Any time that threshold is exceeded, on any day of any month, AV results.

I should have said end of year, my mistake. In 1943 in less than 50 days he should be at 4 - 1 which is an auto victory.
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You can still use your heavy bombers to night bomb his air fields?
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You can still use your heavy bombers to night bomb his air fields?

No, per our rules I cannot use 4EB to night bomb air fields or ports. I also cannot use the 4EB's to bombard naval units at less than 10,000 feet.

It is relegating the 4EBs to strategic bombing & ground attacks (where I have no height limit).
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The silver lining - The only tactic I seem to know how to execute that does not have an easy counter for MrKane is the massed night bomber attack on cities. I had at least 11 wings of 4EB attempt to bomb Magwe at 15,000'. MrKane does not seem to have moved any heavy AA there so this height is pretty tolerable. Almost all of the fighters that he put up (at least 70) were damaged by the Allies. This has got to cost a lot of wear and tear on the Japanese air forces. One of the very few things I know to do to him.

We have been playing hide and seek along the Burma border.


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When bombing at night I vary the height between the groups. You state there is no heavy AAA and therefore I would vary the bombing altitudes between 6,000 to 10,000 feet. I hardly ever lose a plane to AAA and by varying their altitudes he can't just set one altitude for his night fighters and making them more effective if you just come in and one altitude for the entire night of bombing. You could also vary from night to night and make him guess.
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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

When bombing at night I vary the height between the groups. You state there is no heavy AAA and therefore I would vary the bombing altitudes between 6,000 to 10,000 feet. I hardly ever lose a plane to AAA and by varying their altitudes he can't just set one altitude for his night fighters and making them more effective if you just come in and one altitude for the entire night of bombing. You could also vary from night to night and make him guess.

Valid points and great when he puts his fighters below your bombers. Unfortunately, he got AA there the next turn and now I take damage even at 15K.

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MrKane wins by VP victory again!

Fortunately for me we are going to continue the beating ;]


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The sewer has backed up, so back on your heads!
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Why do competitive games have such low victory scores?

I'm in October '45 of an Ironman AI game and victory points stand at 277k for the Allies to 77k for the Japanese.


The AI scored three times as many points against me as you scored against your opponent.
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Hans, you did your comparison wrong. The AI didn't score three times as many points against you as Wargamr scored against Mr. Kane. The AI scored three times as many points against you as Mr. Kane scored against Wargamr. If you meant to compare Japanese vs. Japanese score (77k in your game, something like 27k in Mr. Kane's game), the difference is easily and almost entirely due to the dates: late 1945 vs. late 1942. Three years is a long, long time for tallying points.
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