The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)

[mind_messing]

Is it IJA 20cm guns that you've got at Hangchow? If so, I'd manage your expectations. Army guns, for whatever reason, don't seem to like shooting ships the same as CD or DP guns. It seems different with amphib invasions, but I can't really suss it out myself.

Also, as a follow-on to my previous question, have you tried high-level night bombing of Allied warships as a means of reducing their efficiency? Level bombers from 10k or higher will bleed of the 5 inch ammo, which means less time bombarding and more time re-arming. Throw in some dive or torpedo bombers and you might get lucky. The Kate or Jill models with radar would be ideal for this!

[Lowpe]

Generally speaking against modern bb like New Jersey, CD guns will only inflict a point or two of damage per hit. Try some night attacks there, and the other tactic to try is night time cap in hopes of shooting down the spotter plane. LRCAP so it is hard to do.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

Is it IJA 20cm guns that you've got at Hangchow? If so, I'd manage your expectations. Army guns, for whatever reason, don't seem to like shooting ships the same as CD or DP guns. It seems different with amphib invasions, but I can't really suss it out myself.

Also, as a follow-on to my previous question, have you tried high-level night bombing of Allied warships as a means of reducing their efficiency? Level bombers from 10k or higher will bleed of the 5 inch ammo, which means less time bombarding and more time re-arming. Throw in some dive or torpedo bombers and you might get lucky. The Kate or Jill models with radar would be ideal for this!

No it's an IJN Special Base Force. The big one with 20cm CD and 12.7cm DP guns. Once it was installed the hits at least began landing during bombardments.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Generally speaking against modern bb like New Jersey, CD guns will only inflict a point or two of damage per hit. Try some night attacks there, and the other tactic to try is night time cap in hopes of shooting down the spotter plane. LRCAP so it is hard to do.

Since these are nightly, it could make a difference even at one point a day, but if a few devices get messed up those are yard time on a BB like this. A radar hit for instance.

I'll try to see the messages next turn.

I haven't done any high level night bombing. Worth a try. He does have a base within two hexes and could have an NF group or two on bleeding CAP from there.

[obvert]

[font="Times New Roman"]July 1, 1945[/font]

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July!!!

I'd have to look back but I think this is were my game against Jocke ended. It's certainly new territory where I still have a chance to fight against the big blue monster. It's been fun, and I now see the possibility of going on for a while still, where only a few months ago I though the Allies were dropping the final hammer blow.

The Allies begin the month with a massive night raid on Iwaki going for the resources. This time it's the whole package of about 180 B-29s. [X(]

The NF and flak do okay, but the bombers get their hits. About 200 of them on the resources. They're not gone, but took a significant hit. The Allies lose about 30 of the beasts, all three variants, with the B-29B showing the most vulnerability, not surprisingly. That is a good haul, and I didn't lose too much in the process. The rest should be damaged for a few day's respite at least.

Some Ki-83 LR CAP again target strikes on Shanghai, and again make it through to down a good humber of 1E bombers. It looks like down in Johore Baru the Allies recover a bit, but have less of an advantage for sure than for their first attack. Lets see how long until he tries again.

At Nanning the Allies still show movement. Is it a feint? I can't imagine him crossing there now, especially without throwing all of the bombers he has at the troops for a few weeks. There are a lot of good veteran AA units in hex if he does ry there. Fingers crossed.

At the end of the replay I get a big surprise as I open the turn and have a look around; the DS is moving. [X(]
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bintan at 50,85, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
PB Toko Maru
xAK Clyde Maru
xAK England Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
MTB 275
MTB 276
MTB 277
MTB 278
MTB 279
MTB 280
MTB 281
MTB 282
MTB 283
MTB 284


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 57% moonlight: 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards

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Naval Gun Fire at Singapore - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
MTB 284, Shell hits 2
MTB 283, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, heavy damage
MTB 282, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 281, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 280, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, heavy damage
MTB 279, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 278, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, heavy damage
MTB 277, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
MTB 276, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 275, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

12th Base Force firing at MTB 284

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TF 242 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Ships
MTB 284, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 283, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 281, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 280, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
MTB 279, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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Night Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 21
P1Y2-S Frances x 3

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 20
P1Y2-S Frances x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 7
B-29-25 Superfort x 13
B-29B Superfort x 36

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 14 damaged

Resources hits 121

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 20
P1Y2-S Frances x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 6 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 21
P1Y2-S Frances x 4

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-83 x 42

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wetar Island at 72,114

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y4 Judy x 14

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y4 Judy: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD Peary, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Herbert, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
APD Sands

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wetar Island at 72,114

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD Sands, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wetar Island at 72,114

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 14

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD Humphreys
APD Sands, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-83 x 36

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 25
PV-1 Ventura x 12
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 26
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 2
TBM-3 Avenger x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 7 destroyed
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed
TBM-3 Avenger: 5 destroyed

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 4
Ki-83 x 12

Allied aircraft
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 7 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 2
Ki-83 x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 11
Corsair II x 11
Corsair IV x 16
P-51D Mustang x 40
TBM-3 Avenger x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 5
Liberator B.VI x 3
Beaufort VIII x 16
B-24J Liberator x 25
B-25J1 Mitchell x 12
B-25J11 Mitchell x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Beaufort VIII: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 74

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 9
Thunderbolt II x 3
Vengeance IV x 10
P-38L Lightning x 11
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Clyde Maru, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Toko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Vengeance IV releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 98429 troops, 1513 guns, 1389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2338

Defending force 56881 troops, 472 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 1501

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
45th Indian Brigade
475th USA Regiment
20th Indian Division
81st (West African) Division
25th Indian Division
2nd British Division
17th Motorised Division
236th Combat Engineer Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
8th Indian Division
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
III Indian Corps
134th (East Ang) Regiment
56th Heavy AA Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
181st Field Artillery Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
XXXIV Indian Corps
1st Indian Medium Regiment
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
26th Tank Regiment
2nd Amphibious Brigade
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th INA Nehru Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Sasebo 8th SNLF
80th Garrison Battalion
4th Raiding Regiment
49th Tank Battalion
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
5th INA Regiment
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
65th Brigade
Kure 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
120th Div /2
2nd South Seas Det. /1
1st RF Gun Battalion
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
3rd Mortar Battalion
17th JAAF AF Bn
91st JAAF AF Bn
94th JAAF AF Bn
80th JAAF AF Bn
89th JAAF AF Bn
105th JAAF AF Bn
28th JAAF AF Bn
201st JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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[Capt. Harlock]

He's choosing a rather expensive way to sweep mines at Singapore!

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

He's choosing a rather expensive way to sweep mines at Singapore!

That's kind of what I was thinking. Maybe it wasn't intentional? A lot of players miss that Johore Baru is only accessible from the Singers hex by sea, so maybe that was it as well. Nothing else seemed to move beyond to the South China Sea, but my search there is also very limited.

[obvert]

Here is a hot of Nagasaki. It's gotten bit beaten up by the persistent fires going on for a week after a series of strikes there. It is worth in a VP sense for the Allies to continue with the strat bombing abasing the more defended bigger bases, but I hope I can keep taking a tithe of planes and pilots to eventually reduce the effectiveness of those strikes and sweeps.

[obvert]

The Chinese push forward slowly up in the Himalayas. They have exploited a gap and are moving through. I wouldn't be able to defend this opening regardless, but I can send units to eventually close it behind them, and also around to (hopefully) cut supply lines from the Allied bases in Indochina where they will be now getting their supply from. The troops on the defending hexes in the x3 are all well dug in. Some for years. It'll be interesting to see how that works out for the Chinese who aren't strong on arty even in 45.

I've just abandoned Luangprabang and I'm sending all of the smaller units and a few brigades to this area to mess with the Chinese Southern flank.

Here is a map shown three ways to get an idea of what's happening. If the Chinese can be effectively blocked from getting to Chungking and Chengtu for a good while it'll really help the cause. Those x3 river crossing hexes could be good VP ratio defending hexes too.

[obvert]

The July 2 turn may prove a big moment in the late game. The Allies do in fact shock over the river into Nanning with minimal bombing preparation and no misdirection to potentially lure defenders North or South. It was smash mouth tactics, and it didn't turn out well for them. [;)]

Below are shots of the action as it unfolded. The Allied troops (even the very experienced like the American and Aussie IDs) take a big hit and the Allies get only a 1:9 without powering the level 6 forts in x2 terrain. The base has abundant supply and the IJA IDs are barely touched, with fatigue in the 4-5 range and 0 disruption, morale in the 90s. I'm so tempted to attack back, knowing the Allies would take big losses while disrupted, but I think it could easily end up badly for the IJA and nullify this result. Better to sit it out and wait.

Lets see if the Allies now decide to turn tail, or if the tar baby will stick them in. There are follow-on units showing they're moving in too, and they have another 5-6k AV available unless it's been allocated elsewhere.
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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 202744 troops, 2244 guns, 3168 vehicles, Assault Value = 6058

Defending force 136144 troops, 1285 guns, 804 vehicles, Assault Value = 3555

Allied adjusted assault: 2093

Japanese adjusted defense: 20913

Allied assault odds: 1 to 9 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
3821 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 327 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 59 disabled
Guns lost 134 (4 destroyed, 130 disabled)
Vehicles lost 32 (2 destroyed, 30 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
10636 casualties reported
Squads: 90 destroyed, 1768 disabled
Non Combat: 63 destroyed, 328 disabled
Engineers: 64 destroyed, 277 disabled
Guns lost 200 (16 destroyed, 184 disabled)
Vehicles lost 442 (53 destroyed, 389 disabled)
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[HansBolter]

While disablments are high, actual losses are light given the nature of the assault.

I see no reason to withdraw. The mere level 6 forts can be overcome rather quickly with the application of sufficient combat engineers.

Personally, I wouldn't have crossed directly into the base, but rather spent more time crossing into an adjacent hex.

Still, I see no reason why the follow on steamroller can't get the job done.

This is simply the cost of doing business.

I would also be diverting a portion of my force through the cultivated terrain on the coastal route to HK.
Sure the going is slow, but no slower than the secondary roads one is faced with after reaching Liuchow.

[obvert]

[font="Times New Roman"]July 2, 1945[/font]

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For the rest of the turn, the Allies again keep up the milk runs and I keep up the LR CAP. I usually back it off after a day, and I've noticed he keeps the bombing runs going and doesn't seem to change sweeps. So ...

Another gaggle of 1E bombers shot down and a good few P-51Ds as well. I'm going to back don today, but I'll keep a watch on what he changes if anything. The cat and mouse is going to get much more important in the days to come as Allied timelines shrink along with their airframe and pilot pools.

Johore troops continue to bombard and it doesn't look like anything is moving forward. Fuel, oil and resources still flowing up.

The DS moves down to around Taihoku. Curious where it's all headed now. Will they go to the DEI to get that sorted out?
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Sub attack near Bintan at 50,85

Japanese Ships
PB Toko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Loggerhead

SS Loggerhead launches 6 torpedoes
Loggerhead bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection

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Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 110,71

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 49, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 25
SC Ch 11
xAK Tatsuho Maru
xAK Taibun Maru
xAK Sugiyama Maru
xAK Achou Maru
xAK Yosyu Maru
xAK Kasagi Maru
E Shiga

Allied Ships
SS Kraken, hits 2

SS Kraken launches 6 torpedoes at SC Ch 49
Kraken diving deep ....

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 30

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 27

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 12
Corsair IV x 1
P-51D Mustang x 15
TBM-3 Avenger x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 3 destroyed
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed
TBM-3 Avenger: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 11

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12
P-38L Lightning x 18
TBM-3 Avenger x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 8

Allied aircraft
TBM-1C Avenger x 32

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 1

Allied aircraft
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 3
Liberator B.VI x 14
Liberator GR.VI x 9
A-20G Havoc x 12
A-26B Invader x 25
B-24J Liberator x 24
B-29-25 Superfort x 12
P-51D Mustang x 4
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 10
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 3
PV-2 Harpoon x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 damaged
A-26B Invader: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 72,55 (Nanning)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 19
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 8 damaged
A-26B Invader: 2 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A-26B Invader bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 48th Division ...

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Afternoon Air attack on 120th Division, at 50,83 (Johore Bahru)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
Spitfire F.XIV x 15
Thunderbolt I x 4
Thunderbolt II x 6
B-24J Liberator x 14
A-20G Havoc x 12
P-40N5 Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 2 damaged
P-40N5 Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 98759 troops, 1513 guns, 1389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2428

Defending force 56181 troops, 472 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 1478

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
17th Motorised Division
20th Indian Division
2nd British Division
45th Indian Brigade
475th USA Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
81st (West African) Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
236th Combat Engineer Regiment
25th Indian Division
8th Indian Division
2/13th Field Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
56th Heavy AA Regiment
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
Southeast Asia
1st Indian Medium Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
XXXIV Indian Corps
III Indian Corps
181st Field Artillery Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
44th Naval Guard Unit
4th Raiding Regiment
Kure 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
5th INA Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
49th Tank Battalion
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
2nd Amphibious Brigade
65th Brigade
4th INA Nehru Regiment
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Sasebo 8th SNLF
26th Tank Regiment
120th Div /2
94th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Mortar Battalion
89th JAAF AF Bn
91st JAAF AF Bn
28th JAAF AF Bn
80th JAAF AF Bn
2nd South Seas Det. /1
1st RF Gun Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
105th JAAF AF Bn
17th JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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[Alfred]

Not launching an immediate Nanning counterattack might be justified if you are confident follow up fresh Allied forces will not arrive this turn.  But if no reinforcements arrive this turn there is a strong case for launching a full Japanese air and land counterattack.
 
1.  Unadjusted Allied AV for this coming turn will be about half prior to the river crossing.
 
2.  The river crossing disclosed a disruption malus.  Both disruption and fatigue levels will be far worse this turn.  You can increase the pain by launching all available bombers to ground attack this turn.
 
3.  Even a failed Japanese counterattack will kill outright a lot of those disabled Allied devices.  The Allies will not be in a position to punish you for a failed attack.
 
4.  You only need to achieve an adjusted 2:1 AV to force a calamitous Allied retreat.  With a shock attack you will start the combat with that unadjusted ratio.  With so much Allied disabled the usual Allied firepower may not be able to pull that ratio back at the end of combat. 
 
 
Of course there is risk but the potential rewards are enormous.  Even if destroyed devices for each side cancel out, that is a Japanese VP victory.  An Allied retreat will see most of the disabled devices destroyed and all organic supply lost.  Restocking supply will impact on the Allied supply depots.  Just as importantly a forced Allied retreat will make this sector safe for Japan until well into August as Allied morale, fatigue and disruption recovers and time is used up preparing a methodical future advance.
 
Alfred

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

While disablments are high, actual losses are light given the nature of the assault.

I see no reason to withdraw. The mere level 6 forts can be overcome rather quickly with the application of sufficient combat engineers.

Personally, I wouldn't have crossed directly into the base, but rather spent more time crossing into an adjacent hex.

Still, I see no reason why the follow on steamroller can't get the job done.

This is simply the cost of doing business.

I would also be diverting a portion of my force through the cultivated terrain on the coastal route to HK.
Sure the going is slow, but no slower than the secondary roads one is faced with after reaching Liuchow.

I completely agree with this if (and this is the if he can't control) I wouldn't be able to reinforce. As it stands, I can. With a good amount of high EXP troops.

My rule of thumb is that he needs at minimum three times the AV against a fortified x2 terrain hex. He will be well below that for a good while unless massive reinforcements cross after.

The route to HK is open. That is a decision on my part to encourage time commitment by the Allies. They may though choose to amphibiously transport troops from Haiphong too. We'll see.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

Not launching an immediate Nanning counterattack might be justified if you are confident follow up fresh Allied forces will not arrive this turn.  But if no reinforcements arrive this turn there is a strong case for launching a full Japanese air and land counterattack.

1.  Unadjusted Allied AV for this coming turn will be about half prior to the river crossing.

2.  The river crossing disclosed a disruption malus.  Both disruption and fatigue levels will be far worse this turn.  You can increase the pain by launching all available bombers to ground attack this turn.

3.  Even a failed Japanese counterattack will kill outright a lot of those disabled Allied devices.  The Allies will not be in a position to punish you for a failed attack.

4.  You only need to achieve an adjusted 2:1 AV to force a calamitous Allied retreat.  With a shock attack you will start the combat with that unadjusted ratio.  With so much Allied disabled the usual Allied firepower may not be able to pull that ratio back at the end of combat. 


Of course there is risk but the potential rewards are enormous.  Even if destroyed devices for each side cancel out, that is a Japanese VP victory.  An Allied retreat will see most of the disabled devices destroyed and all organic supply lost.  Restocking supply will impact on the Allied supply depots.  Just as importantly a forced Allied retreat will make this sector safe for Japan until well into August as Allied morale, fatigue and disruption recovers and time is used up preparing a methodical future advance.

Alfred

I agree. I wish could pull the trigger. I just can't knowing those follow on units could cross as soon as tomorrow. With an added large bombing commitment I expect as well. He will get the benefit of the x2 terrain and even though disrupted, will still have a large force than the IJA in place.

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Here is China right now. I have 1,600AV at Hong Kong and 2,000AV at Canton.

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[font="Times New Roman"]July 3, 1945[/font]

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On the 3rd the Allies continue methodically as before. It does look like the troops didn't cross into Nanning, so if I'd been bold enough I might have had a chance to kick them out. I was not. It does look like the Allies were vulnerable based on the shot below and bombardment results, but then their offensive bombardment also looked okay, so it might have gone either way. The IJA is using three siege gun units to bombard here, with two 30cm x4 units and one 24cm x6 unit. There are also three medium arty units with 15cm x 24 each. Not bad.

The Allies don't show movement back out of the hex, which is positive. I've begun sending in reinforcements from the North and from Liuchow; two more high EXP IDs. In the central area I have a further reserve of one tank division and 2-3 more IDs depending on what the Allies do near Shanghai and what the DS is doing, now passing near Southern Formosa.

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6237 troops, 272 guns, 289 vehicles, Assault Value = 3314

Defending force 202447 troops, 2672 guns, 3571 vehicles, Assault Value = 4325

Allied ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7492 troops, 308 guns, 259 vehicles, Assault Value = 4304

Defending force 133480 troops, 1281 guns, 802 vehicles, Assault Value = 3314

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Judging by the speed of travel and the rollover info, it doesn't seem like the DS is traveling with any amphibs here. Could be wrong, but I haven't seen ay at all over the past few days. The info is obviously not complete as I can't get a solid search result. Losing a lot of planes just keeping track of their position.

Is he moving it down to cut off resources and fuel from the DEI now? Is he supporting an invasion from the RN, and doesn't trust the RN DS to do that on its own (even though it's fully capable based on what I have in that area). Something else?

I'll keep looking at Northern China now if the DS is moving out. he's leaving that incursion somewhat more vulnerable, and I can sweep his bases to reduce CAP. His main base, Tungchow, on not on a rail network either. Hmmmmm.

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Another good show in the air as a LR CAP over the Malaya bases produced another 30+ bombers shot down. He's using the kitchen sink down here, with Beaufort VIII flying right next to B-25J11 and other more capable planes. The newer versions and 4Es do protect some of the more fragile variants in big strikes, but when more isolated (as against one group of Wellingtons this turn) the results are predictable. Still making pilots go KIA/MIA and still earning VPs while reducing pools.

I'll back off for a day while targeting a small Firefly group that has been needlessly harassing a defeated and retreating base force in middle Sumatra. Franks should have some fun with those if they fly next turn! [:)]

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 17
Ki-83 x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 4
Liberator B.VI x 3
Wellington GR.XIII x 3
B-24J Liberator x 47
B-25J1 Mitchell x 3
B-25J11 Mitchell x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 1 damaged
Wellington GR.XIII: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 91

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 7
Ki-83 x 6
Ki-102b Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 8
Wellington B.X x 3
Beaufort VIII x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 7 damaged
Wellington B.X: 2 destroyed
Beaufort VIII: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufort VIII bombing from 8000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
Ki-83 x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
Wellington GR.XIII x 12
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington GR.XIII: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Wellington GR.XIII bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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[font="Times New Roman"]July 4, 1945[/font]

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A quieter turn. The Fireflies kept on to their target and were met this turn by a few Franks, which shot down 4-5 of the light bombers. These small battles are sometimes most satisfying.

The DS has cloaked. I turned off most of my search to avoid big losses, but now have to switch the lights back on. Can't find the beasts. [;)]

Major strikes at Singers and Johore were turned off and sweepers came over in force. This makes me think the LR CAP there has been having the desired effect. The bombardments on the ground continue, with the Allies having a slight advantage, but Japanese AV recovering well and virtually no fatigue or disruption among the troops. Allied AV is still a good 250 points below what s was before the initial attack.

At Nanning the bombardments of the IJA ultra-heavy arty are taking a toll. Notice the 40 point reduction in Allied AV between the Japanese and the Allied bombardment. [:)]

The Allies look to be changing their mind and moving nearby troops toward Pakhoi and Kwangchowan. I'll have a look further down the rail to see what he has coming. There is a good 250k of Allied troops at least unaccounted for that were in Burma. I'm guessing some of these will be transported through the straits at some point by ship. I'll have a deeper recon look to see if others are on the rail lines through Indochina.

The Allies up North try to bomb the fields at Hangchow which has had a significant AA upgrade. A good 12cm led regiment plus a big naval base force with 12.7DP guns and others now there. It'll be a struggle to keep hitting /Hangchow in addition to Shanghai with occasional LR CAP added, the good AA and the added CD gun defenses.
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Morning Air attack on 4th JAAF AF Coy , at 45,86 , near Padang

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
Firefly F.I x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Firefly F.I: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Firefly F.I bombing from 100 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hangchow , at 90,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
F-6D Mustang x 18
P-38L Lightning x 15
TBM-1C Avenger x 25
TBM-3 Avenger x 23

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 6 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak
TBM-3 Avenger: 12 damaged
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6261 troops, 272 guns, 289 vehicles, Assault Value = 3362

Defending force 202983 troops, 2670 guns, 3563 vehicles, Assault Value = 4381

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
249 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 28 (15 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Assaulting units:
103rd Division
16th Division
5th Division
48th Division
105th Division
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
55th Naval Guard Unit
70th Division
18th Division
2nd Division
91st Naval Guard Unit
56th Field AA Battalion
16th Army
112th AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
125th AA Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
24th JNAF AF Unit
38th Ind. Engineer Regiment
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
34th Field AA Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
113th AA Regiment
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
115th AA Regiment
11th Shipping Engineer Regiment
6th RF Gun Battalion
1st JAAF Base Force
53rd Construction Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
88th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
3rd Cavalry Regiment
26th Indian Division
27th Infantry Division
1st New Chinese Corps
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
7th Australian Division
11th Indian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
754th Tank Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
7th Indian Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
6th Australian Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
3rd New Chinese Corps
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
101st Heavy AA Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
2nd Indian AA Bde
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
170 Wing
77th Coast AA Regiment
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
86th Coast AA Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
184th USAAF Base Force
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
185 Wing
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
1/198th Coast AA Battalion

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7480 troops, 308 guns, 259 vehicles, Assault Value = 4340

Defending force 134025 troops, 1281 guns, 801 vehicles, Assault Value = 3362

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 99642 troops, 1523 guns, 1399 vehicles, Assault Value = 2484

Defending force 57425 troops, 473 guns, 277 vehicles, Assault Value = 1549

Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
268th Motorised Brigade
236th Combat Engineer Regiment
25th Indian Division
20th Indian Division
81st (West African) Division
45th Indian Brigade
17th Motorised Division
475th USA Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
2nd British Division
8th Indian Division
14th Army
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
XXXIV Indian Corps
181st Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
56th Heavy AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
III Indian Corps
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
4th Tank Regiment
26th Tank Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
2nd Amphibious Brigade
4th Raiding Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
5th INA Regiment
65th Brigade
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Sasebo 8th SNLF
4th INA Nehru Regiment
Kure 3rd SNLF
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
49th Tank Battalion
120th Div /2
1st RF Gun Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
17th JAAF AF Bn
28th JAAF AF Bn
80th JAAF AF Bn
94th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Mortar Battalion
89th JAAF AF Bn
91st JAAF AF Bn
2nd South Seas Det. /1
105th JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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A decent turn. The surprise CAP near Lao Chai works. The Allies send over a hundred 2E into a maelstrom of CAP. Losses are heavy. The Japanese losses would have been very light if not for the huge number of very good pilots deciding it was a great day to die for the Emperor and ramming the B-25s head on. [:(]

Also got a hold of another advance tank unit and gave it a good licking. The Allies will take Pakhoi next turn, and seem content with that track for now. No extra troops heading to Nanning. The bombardments there take a toll on the Allied troops. I just moved another 28cm heavy side arty unit into the hex. [8D]
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Morning Air attack on 2nd USMC Tank Battalion, at 73,58 , near Pakhoi

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 50
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 5
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 5
Ki-83 x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 54 (8 destroyed, 46 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd USMC Tank Battalion, at 73,58 , near Pakhoi

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd USMC Tank Battalion, at 73,58 , near Pakhoi

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 8
N1K5-J George x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-83 x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 17
Ki-100-II Tony x 27

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 7
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25J1 Mitchell x 12
B-25J11 Mitchell x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-25J1 Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Goto B. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Ginowa R. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Bunkichi M. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kawai D. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kawahara K. in a Ki-100-II Tony rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kikuchi E. in a Ki-100-II Tony rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Degawa K. in a Ki-100-II Tony rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Shirahama V. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Hanzawa H. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kobayashi R. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J11 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Akashiba O. in a N1K5-J George rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Sagara G. in a N1K5-J George rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kaoki A. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kizuka U. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Fuchida E. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor[X(]

(Umm ... I think these guys are getting a little carried away here. All of those planes do have guns. And those are good pilots too. [:-])

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Morning Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 8
N1K5-J George x 4
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-83 x 9
Ki-84r Frank x 2
Ki-100-II Tony x 17

Allied aircraft
Wellington B.X x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington B.X: 10 destroyed, 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wellington B.X bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 3
N1K5-J George x 4
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-83 x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Ki-100-II Tony x 15

Allied aircraft
Wellington B.X x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington B.X: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington B.X bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 1
N1K5-J George x 2
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Dohibara O. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25D1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kado R. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25D1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Ikeda J. in a N1K5-J George rams a B-25D1 Mitchell for the Emperor


(Three fighters ram two bombers???) [&:][&:]

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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 8
N1K5-J George x 7
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11
Ki-83 x 15
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-100-II Tony x 19

Allied aircraft
B-25J1 Mitchell x 15
B-25J11 Mitchell x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J1 Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25J11 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Ground Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance (Odd)
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Okajima F. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kira B. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Ochi N. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Goto R. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Fuchida B. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kabase O. in a Ki-83 rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kabase J. in a Ki-83 rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Nakasawa B. in a N1K5-J George rams a B-25J1 Mitchell for the Emperor



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Afternoon Air attack on 55th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 73,60 (Kwangchowan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 7

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-26B Invader bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
17th Sentai with Ki-83 (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11530 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 11530.
Raid is overhead

Banzai! - Mitsumori F. in a Ki-83 rams a A-26B Invader for the Emperor

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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 8
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-83 x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-100-II Tony x 19

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 66,53 , near Lao Cai

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 4
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2
Ki-83 x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
B-25J11 Mitchell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J11 Mitchell: 4 destroyed

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6261 troops, 272 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 3391

Defending force 203272 troops, 2669 guns, 3545 vehicles, Assault Value = 4426

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (5 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Assaulting units:
103rd Division
70th Division
16th Division
2nd Division
55th Naval Guard Unit
18th Division
5th Division
48th Division
105th Division
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
38th Ind. Engineer Regiment
24th JNAF AF Unit
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
112th AA Regiment
16th Army
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
53rd Construction Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
1st JAAF Base Force
6th RF Gun Battalion
115th AA Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
11th Shipping Engineer Regiment
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
125th AA Regiment
56th Field AA Battalion
34th Field AA Battalion
113th AA Regiment
4th RF Gun Battalion
88th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
26th Indian Division
Americal Infantry Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
Provisionl Tank Brigade
7th Australian Division
27th Infantry Division
254th Armoured Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
7th Indian Division
6th Australian Division
11th Indian Division
32nd Infantry Division
150th RAC Regiment
1st New Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XXXIII Indian Corps
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
86th Coast AA Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
184th USAAF Base Force
185 Wing
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
101st Heavy AA Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
170 Wing
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Indian AA Bde
1/198th Coast AA Battalion

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Ground combat at Pakhoi (72,58)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1224 troops, 3 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 62

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 62 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Pakhoi !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
193rd Tank Battalion

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 99868 troops, 1523 guns, 1399 vehicles, Assault Value = 2511

Defending force 59732 troops, 485 guns, 285 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd British Division
475th USA Regiment
236th Combat Engineer Regiment
17th Motorised Division
20th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
81st (West African) Division
25th Indian Division
8th Indian Division
55th Heavy Regiment
III Indian Corps
XXXIV Indian Corps
3rd West African AA Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
56th Heavy AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
181st Field Artillery Regiment
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
14th Army
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2/13th Field Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
Sasebo 8th SNLF
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
26th Tank Regiment
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
49th Tank Battalion
4th Raiding Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
5th INA Regiment
2nd South Seas Det.
65th Brigade
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Amphibious Brigade
Kure 3rd SNLF
4th INA Nehru Regiment
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
120th Div /2
91st JAAF AF Bn
80th JAAF AF Bn
89th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Mortar Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
105th JAAF AF Bn
17th JAAF AF Bn
28th JAAF AF Bn
94th JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7468 troops, 307 guns, 259 vehicles, Assault Value = 4380

Defending force 134268 troops, 1281 guns, 800 vehicles, Assault Value = 3391

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 11 (5 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (3 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
11th Indian Division
7th Australian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
7th Indian Division
150th RAC Regiment
26th Indian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
1st New Chinese Corps
27th Infantry Division
6th Australian Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd New Chinese Corps
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
170 Wing
185 Wing
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
184th USAAF Base Force
86th Coast AA Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Indian AA Bde
XXXIII Indian Corps
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
101st Heavy AA Regiment
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
1/198th Coast AA Battalion

Defending units:
70th Division
55th Naval Guard Unit
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
48th Division
16th Division
5th Division
2nd Division
105th Division
103rd Division
18th Division
91st Naval Guard Unit
5th Mortar Battalion
113th AA Regiment
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
34th Field AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
115th AA Regiment
53rd Construction Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Field AA Battalion
112th AA Regiment
24th JNAF AF Unit
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Shipping Engineer Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
1st JAAF Base Force
38th Ind. Engineer Regiment
16th Army
4th RF Gun Battalion
125th AA Regiment
88th JAAF AF Coy

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