Game of Thrones

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun
My favorite part is about Rory (The Hound) talking about the chicken...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgo7Bos-uIM

[:D]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun

I read up a lot of details and see some videos and feel like I already seen the last season.

You should find the video where Sansa kills Tyrion. Chilling.

[Crossroads]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Defending outside the castle walls was not clever - and charging with unsupported cavalry at the start of the set-piece battle was ludicrous... The defenders supposedly had time to come up with a plan...

Don't get me started on the planning and execution failures on that battle please. Such elementary disregard for any tactical planning really detracted from the episode as far as I'm concerned. Sure, the special effects and melee were remarkable, but didn't overcome wanton stupidity in the battle planning.

I wasn't too bothered to be honest. Not because it wasn't silly, it was, but because that's just how things seem to be portrayed.

In Gladiator, the Romans broke format immediately when in contact with Barbarians and their long swords, choosing instead to fight them man to man. With their short gladii. Sure. Fast forward to WW2, in SPR, the Rangers having skillfully penetrated the Atlantic Wall defences, then the very next time they chose to bayonet charge a MG improved position. On a top of a small hill, no less. We wargamers are a tough crowd to please [:D]

So all I can say about the Dothraki charge is that it was visually very impressive. Troops lined outside castle walls, well at least you can see them all now. Trebuchet outside walls as well. Why not. The thing I will complain about ep 3, being an artillery man, is that they did not use those trebuchet things at all but for a couple of shots. They should have bombarded the enemy throughtout the episode. That is what artillery does. Grr! [:'(]

[Zap]

Interesting how the forumites have dissected the series[&o]

[Crossroads]

ORIGINAL: Zap

Interesting how the forumites have dissected the series[&o]

There's always a lot of dissecting, with Game of Thrones. Often, in it, too. It is known.

[bomccarthy]

ORIGINAL: Crossroads

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Defending outside the castle walls was not clever - and charging with unsupported cavalry at the start of the set-piece battle was ludicrous... The defenders supposedly had time to come up with a plan...

Don't get me started on the planning and execution failures on that battle please. Such elementary disregard for any tactical planning really detracted from the episode as far as I'm concerned. Sure, the special effects and melee were remarkable, but didn't overcome wanton stupidity in the battle planning.

I wasn't too bothered to be honest. Not because it wasn't silly, it was, but because that's just how things seem to be portrayed.

In Gladiator, the Romans broke format immediately when in contact with Barbarians and their long swords, choosing instead to fight them man to man. With their short gladii. Sure. Fast forward to WW2, in SPR, the Rangers having skillfully penetrated the Atlantic Wall defences, then the very next time they chose to bayonet charge a MG improved position. On a top of a small hill, no less. We wargamers are a tough crowd to please [:D]

So all I can say about the Dothraki charge is that it was visually very impressive. Troops lined outside castle walls, well at least you can see them all now. Trebuchet outside walls as well. Why not. The thing I will complain about ep 3, being an artillery man, is that they did not use those trebuchet things at all but for a couple of shots. They should have bombarded the enemy throughtout the episode. That is what artillery does. Grr! [:'(]

I think the Dothraki were modeled on ancient nomadic horse tribes; I don't know much about their "military culture", but I would tend to think that such tribes didn't think of themselves in terms of cavalry or infantry. I imagine they know only one way of warfare - ride full tilt into an enemy. Having little in the way of discipline otherwise, they could only be used in this manner. Somehow, I don't imagine the Dothraki mounted horde waiting behind a main line of resistance for an order to charge, or even reconnoitering the Night King's army like light cavalry.

[bomccarthy]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun

I read up a lot of details and see some videos and feel like I already seen the last season.

You should find the video where Sansa kills Tyrion. Chilling.

Where is that video?

Maybe Marvel will bring back all of the GoT characters that wronged Sansa over the years, so she can exact her revenge over and over again:

[Gilmer]

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

IMHO, 50% of King’s Landing population is gone. More will die of infected wounds, plagues and starvation. Cersei point of view showed clearly how the town was basically reduced to a lake of napalm.

BTW, people on the internet are screaming bloody hell against this “twist” - a twist that was predicted over and over and over since Season 1. Dany even had a vision (in Season 3 IIRC) of the throne room deserted and destroyed, with ashes swirling around like snowflakes. Personally, I wasn’t surprised at all.

Edit: Re: The credits, let’s go for broke [:D] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ntPHFVWDIqM

I just can't believe she did it for the clubfoot translator.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: bomccarthy

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun

I read up a lot of details and see some videos and feel like I already seen the last season.

You should find the video where Sansa kills Tyrion. Chilling.

Where is that video?

Dude. Work with me here. Rising-Sun says he hasn't seen anything in the last season. So I throw him a non-sequitor red herring to let him wonder where the video of Sansa killing Tyrion is. [;)]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: bomccarthy

ORIGINAL: Crossroads

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




Don't get me started on the planning and execution failures on that battle please. Such elementary disregard for any tactical planning really detracted from the episode as far as I'm concerned. Sure, the special effects and melee were remarkable, but didn't overcome wanton stupidity in the battle planning.

I wasn't too bothered to be honest. Not because it wasn't silly, it was, but because that's just how things seem to be portrayed.

In Gladiator, the Romans broke format immediately when in contact with Barbarians and their long swords, choosing instead to fight them man to man. With their short gladii. Sure. Fast forward to WW2, in SPR, the Rangers having skillfully penetrated the Atlantic Wall defences, then the very next time they chose to bayonet charge a MG improved position. On a top of a small hill, no less. We wargamers are a tough crowd to please [:D]

So all I can say about the Dothraki charge is that it was visually very impressive. Troops lined outside castle walls, well at least you can see them all now. Trebuchet outside walls as well. Why not. The thing I will complain about ep 3, being an artillery man, is that they did not use those trebuchet things at all but for a couple of shots. They should have bombarded the enemy throughtout the episode. That is what artillery does. Grr! [:'(]

I think the Dothraki were modeled on ancient nomadic horse tribes; I don't know much about their "military culture", but I would tend to think that such tribes didn't think of themselves in terms of cavalry or infantry. I imagine they know only one way of warfare - ride full tilt into an enemy. Having little in the way of discipline otherwise, they could only be used in this manner. Somehow, I don't imagine the Dothraki mounted horde waiting behind a main line of resistance for an order to charge, or even reconnoitering the Night King's army like light cavalry.

warspite1

I understand what you are saying about the Dothraki and their method of war, but there was a conference about the plan. It wasn't a free for all surely? Someone - presumably Jon Snow - was in charge and coordinated the plan. The decision - and whose it was - to simply send a few thousand Dothraki against an enemy that can't be defeated conventionally, makes no sense. Everyone in that planning room has been told (and many have seen the undead up close and personal) what the army of the dead are.

Even if it was the Dothraki that insisted on their place at the front, at the least I would have expected Daenerys to have put up an argument against. She had seen the undead - importantly, she has lost one of her children to them. That unsupported cavalry charge was inexplicable on all counts - not least on the part of Daenerys. The Dothraki have seen the MoD walk into and emerge from fire. They worship her as a goddess. They would do what she said. But we can only assume she has acquiesced in their dumb usage.

But her arguing against their use in that way - and then their slaughtering - could have been another important waypoint on her journey to full Mad Queen.

[rico21]

Game of Thrones takes again the history of England, the wall of Adrien, the pictes (the army of the dead ones), the dothraki (French chivalry), the Starks (the Scots) ...
and so it's going to end with Mary Stuart's descendant on throne (Jon Snow).[8D]

[warspite1]

Lolz.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48303921

[Crossroads]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Lolz.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48303921

Internet fans... Burn them all. Dracarys!

[:D]

[bomccarthy]

ORIGINAL: rico21

Game of Thrones takes again the history of England, the wall of Adrien, the pictes (the army of the dead ones), the dothraki (French chivalry), the Starks (the Scots) ...
and so it's going to end with Mary Stuart's descendant on throne (Jon Snow).[8D]

I think the Starks were originally based on the Yorks (at war with the Lannisters/Lancasters). But the series has in many ways come to resemble the aftermath of Henry VIII's death: 3 strong women in conflict. Cersei as "Bloody" Mary Tudor; Daenerys as Mary Stuart (raised in a foreign land and backed initially by a foreign army, then the "North"/Scotland); Sansa as Mary Stuart ("queen" in the North) and Elizabeth Tudor (coming of age as she observed royalty up close, while playing her hand carefully and quietly amongst people who remembered her primarily as the daughter of a "traitorous" parent who was beheaded).

[bomccarthy]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: bomccarthy

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




You should find the video where Sansa kills Tyrion. Chilling.

Where is that video?

Dude. Work with me here. Rising-Sun says he hasn't seen anything in the last season. So I throw him a non-sequitor red herring to let him wonder where the video of Sansa killing Tyrion is. [;)]

Damn ... I thought there was an outlandish outtake somewhere.

[zakblood]

nowhere near as good as the books, last series is far too rushed imo

[bomccarthy]

I haven't read the books; my understanding is that GRRM bit off more narrative than he could chew and is now burnt out on the story. I read a recent interview where he expressed hope about finishing the next book. I think he even started on a completely unrelated novel - that sounds like burnout on the whole Westeros saga (I guess that could be expected after 30 years of writing about the same characters).

This last season could have definitely used 10-12 hours, rather than 8-9 hours. A few scenes in episodes 1 and 2 between Daenerys and Missandei alone might have gone a long ways towards demonstrating Daenerys' descent into paranoia and violent resentment as she doesn't get the Westeros love to which she thinks she is entitled. As a devoted advisor to the queen and an outsider sensing the suspicion of the Northerners, Missandei would have likely fueled Daenerys' eventual explosion.

[Rising-Sun]

Note Spoiler...

There is one major flaw I wasn't too happy with, when Gregor Clegan (The Mountain) dueling Oberyn Martell and suffer some nasty cuts and blows during trial by combat for Tyrion Lannister in Fourth Season. Later you will noticed Qyburn manage to save Gregor, that Cersei want him back. Qyburn using some kinda necromancy there and reality you gotta keep treating the patient and of course it would have smell bad. Funny no one mention how he smell all that time. Like being zombie, it will get stiff over time and start to decay, no matter what.

[Lecivius]

Well, I didn't get it right. But I can live with the ending. The only thing that sort of spoiled it was ALL of the Unsullied & Dothraki. Those guys are like worms, chop 'em up & they grow a new body.

Tell me where to send the blood money, CB.

[zakblood]

series 8 without a doubt is poor imo and i'm sorry to say for me they Spoiled the ending and the series overall with such a short and imo again such a poor ending.

can't say it was the worse ending i've ever seen, but no where near as good as i could have written it, so disappointed[:(]