Game of Thrones

[Crossroads]

I can live with the ending, at least it was a proper ending. It's just that it was too rushed, especially as even in season 7 with only seven episodes they still took the time to evolve the plot. Even with the last two seasons being ten episodes it would have not felt so rushed. But here we are. It was a fun eight, nine years.

[zakblood]

for me i'm disappointed, kind of like i was with the walking dead, good to start off with, then in the end, it's as if someone else wrote the ending and rushed it, kind of a low budget one at that, left far too many mistakes imo

armies of a given size, almost destroyed then reborn X2

army planning, well none.

ending open to do another one, either later on, or the following generation etc, missed quite a few good writing parts for me, could have been better

but glad others also agree it's rushed and far too short for a ending season also,...

[Toby42]

So what happened to Drogo, the Dothraki, Bronn, Brienne and the Unsullied?

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Crossroads

I can live with the ending, at least it was a proper ending. It's just that it was too rushed, especially as even in season 7 with only seven episodes they still took the time to evolve the plot. Even with the last two seasons being ten episodes it would have not felt so rushed. But here we are. It was a fun eight, nine years.

That is the key part for me. I can live with the ending, but where the other seasons kept building suspense throughout the episodes, this season seems to have been more "oh my, we only have x episodes left, better hurry up". Think the season would have benefitted from another 2 episodes or so.

[zakblood]

seems i'm not alone,

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48333709

But the season eight finale has received a mixed reaction from fans and critics.

More than a million viewers signed a petition to have the eighth season remade with more "competent writers".

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Toby42

So what happened to Drogo, the Dothraki, Bronn, Brienne and the Unsullied?

Their ends are explained satisfactorily in the final episode. Have you not seen it? [;)]

[zakblood]

i make more comments when most have seen it, as there's more than plenty wrong with series 8, i have a list already compiled

[rico21]

Game of thrones is over.
Star wars too in the past.
There"is too money to take...
Spinoff in the future!

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Toby42

So what happened to Drogo, the Dothraki, Bronn, Brienne and the Unsullied?

Their ends are explained satisfactorily in the final episode. Have you not seen it? [;)]

You shouldn't be reading this if you haven't seen it.

There are a lot of loose ends. Was Jon Snow fireproof, being half-Targaryen? Who did Jaqen H'ghar come to Westeros to kill? Why did Quaithe wear that mask? Perhaps GRR will clear these things up.

[zakblood]

well if everyone has seen it, then it's no longer a spoiler in my eyes.

where did all the Unsullied & Dothraki come from after the battle with the white walkers? eg to fight in the end all wars near the end????????

as from my views, most were wiped out, only to have come back from the dead in the battle of the last war, the war to end all wars.

2 Dragons killed, but seems last one was bullet bullet proof and flew so much better in the end around all the dart throwing machines? so were the others ones just dumb and stupid?

battles in series 8?

seems there were designed by a idiot who didn't know how to fight or defend, if you watched i'm sure most will agree, as i'm useless at games, can test them till the cows come home and mostly loose, but even i can make a standard defense better than series 8 was fought.

the ending was a disappointment, to short with so much left over it's plain even to an idiot like me there will be a follow on in one way or another, mini series or follow on in later years.

where do i start with King Bran?

well, doesn't see all of the future but knew he was going to be king? how?

as taking him back to the start of series 8, he doesn't know what will stop a white walker when asked if dragon fire would or wouldn't kill one?

seems he's not the all knowing, and is just another one of the poor writing parts which doesn't make sense,

i could go on and name another 20 plus which springs to mind, but as most have already been noticed and mentioned by critics all over the place, seems the man who wrote the book couldn't be bothered to do the same quality with series 8 at all, if he even wrote it,

my god, upto series 7, one of the best TV stuff i've watched in a very long time, only spoilt in the last series, something i can't forgive, sloppy writing to just give it a quick death, felt like they killed it or ran out of money to really do it justice,...

[elmo3]

It was a great series, and now my watch is ended....

[MrsWargamer]

Militarily, I have NEVER watched any form of fiction that didn't annoy me on some level.

Drama wise, Game of Thrones joins SG1 as one of my most loved shows.

I am ok with the ending.

I'm glad it ended quickly.

I loved Babylon 5 right up till they defeated the reason for the show, and then couldn't admit it was over. Its last season should never have happened, and Crusade is a very bad idea. Glad it died.

When you weave an objective into a show, the show is over when you reach the objective.

I hope they never touch Game of Thrones in the future.

[zakblood]

i tend to not watch TV tbh and watch most of mine from downloads, as i like to watch them in comfort and also in the order is wish when i want, so if i want a whole day of a given series, i do, and cant be doing with 1 half hour a week with months or more inbetween series etc, so mostly never watch live ones, unless they really float my boat

and yes loved scfi,

Babylon 5, SG1, star trek later ones etc, not the early Kirk gets to girls each week type,

Star Trek: Discovery, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and yes even Star Trek: Voyager the search for female toiletries, Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate: Atlantis, Star Trek: Enterprise, Farscape, 3rd Rock from the Sun (just cos i'm daft) , Stargate Universe, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, Red Dwarf but not the later series, early ones only for me,,, Andromeda, Space: 1999 (classic) Stargate Origins, Earth: Final Conflict, Blake's 7 and many many others

looking forward to

Star Trek: Picard

[warspite1]

Personally I have nothing against the ending (with perhaps one exception). The problem – as mentioned previously – is the pacing and thus the story telling.

Sansa ending up Queen of t'North, an independent enclave on Westeros, check – Ned would be proud. Arya going off to contemplate her naval in the west? Check, she was never going to settle for being a Lady of some great estate or whateves. Mardy, “tha’ don’t know owt Jon Snow”, ending up with his whippet (well Direwolf) in t’north – t’ real north. Check. Tyrion survives – thank goodness for that, my favourite male character. Check. Lord Edmure being a total dipstick – top marks for that one. Also I did like Brienne’s scene and the epitath she gave to Ser Jaime – and she gets a job in the small council with Bronn – now master of coin…. Er really? Speaking of coin, so the whole Bank of Braavos red herring was just er a red herring.

But the two main protagonists? For practically the entire run its been clear Daenerys and Jon Snow (ignoring the small matter of his murder of course) are going to be around till the end. As the show neared its climax, (and the MoD became increasingly unhinged) it became ever more apparent that these two would have to come together eventually – good (but a bit dull) vs evil (but more than a bit tasty).

And sure enough they did… and Jon killed his lover, auntie, Queen etc. Dramatic huh? Er… no. That scene must have taken about 5 minutes…. Really?? It’s not a bloody afterthought – it’s the climax of the Game of Thrones!!

They could have made it so much more dramatic. Jon, after his chat with Tyrion, knows what needs to be done and goes to confront her. But then the MoD waxes lyrical about a better world, breaking the wheel, shiny biceps for all etc, and Jon, the mopey bastard who knows nothing, succumbs to Daenerys ‘charms’. It looks like he will fall into line only for the MoD to say something inopportune about the north and/or Sansa. Only at that point does Jon wake up, smell the coffee, and plunge his sword in Daenerys (ohh er missus, cheeky!).

The whole Jon/MoD scene – the culmination of the series for goodness sake - was just too rushed. Blink and you’d have missed it. BTW, does anyone know why Drogon melted the Iron Throne? Was that a spot of political satire from the fire breathing beast? And where he at? Last we heard he was conveniently still heading east out of the story – maybe he’ll meet Arya heading west if the world is indeed round.

And as for what followed…..

So Jon has killed someone who is effectively a goddess to the Dothraki and the saviour to the Unsullied , who are programmed to fight to the death for her. Oh and where the hell did all those Unsullied come from? Despite the Harpies, the Undead, and the Lannisters, there were more Unsullied at the end than when Daenerys freed them from that old weasel in Astaphor or wherever it was. But I digress, so after Jon has slain their Queen what happens? He’s locked up instead of being hung, drawn and quartered… of course. “Mr Snow?” “Aye, appen as maybe”. “I’m arresting you sunshine on suspicion of Regicide… you have the right to remain silent……”.

But it gets worse. Tyrion – who betrayed the MoD remember - is brought before the gathering of familiar faces from previous episodes/series under armed guard led by Grey Worm. Who is Grey Worm taking orders from to do this? His Queen has been brutally slain in her hour of triumph but Grey Worm – apart from shouting a little bit at Tyrion and tells him he’s not here to speak – is then content to allow Tyrion to conduct proceedings…..

This wasn’t just rushed, it was borderline farcical – Lord Edmure aside (although he could have brought Lady Roslin along with him, the selfish whatsit).

And that just leaves Bran. As mentioned previously, even when GoT was hitting the heights spectacularly (essentially the entire seasons 1-6) the whole speccy 4-eyes raven thing was something of a fast forward moment. Why is he King? What about old whatisface? Maximillian Schell?* Why didn’t he get to be King when he was the previous 3-eyed raven? What did he get for his trouble and pain, just a rented room in Whalley Range – well by that I mean he sort of grew into tree type thing or something and lived underground like a Womble. Seems a bit unfair.

So who chose Bran to be whatever he was? Did he know he was going to be King? Did he know MoD was a nutter? Being King should be fun for him though. If he wants to know what his subjects are doing he just needs to do the eye rolling malarchy and spy on them. It’s good to be King.

But the whole Bran thing aside, I really wished they'd dug their heels in and said - either we make series 7 and 8 10 episodes or we don't make it. The story then stood a chance to have been told in a way that the series deserved - not to mention the millions of fans who invested so much time in it.

*EDIT - no the other one it was Max von Sydow

[zakblood]

i wrote the ending while i was in the loo,

and this is what happens next,

dragon comes back, fight with Jon on his back, who then leads the north against, the real north, not the one made by and for Sansa against the other north who falls out with her brother and King of the 6 kingdoms so he Jon is stuck in the middle and knocks sense into both of them, sister and brother etc, well not real ones, but you get my drift, Grey Worm becomes a farmer as he makes men out of thin air so tries his hands at fruit and veg for the fun if it, Brienne’s becomes a man, Bronn losses manhood and becomes a woman as fitting for master of coin or whispers, i forget now but doesn't matter, as if it made much sense some may believe it.

Tyrion goes back to naughty ladies and wine, but must agree with warspite1,. he's the only one who played a really good part and was written well for for the most parts, apart from the brought it chains bit and then makes the decisions etc etc

and yes if they had it made it longer, the battles could have been epic, instead of meh

iceman comes, fights dies, end of

draw up plans to defend, well lets build these massive rock throwers, then not use them, i know lets put them in the front line and fire them only once, instead of in the castle and use them 100's of time, or lets build just a hole in the ground and make fire in it, instead of multiple defenses so could have held for more than 5 mins

i can't say it as good as the critics, who post of many things wrong and go into a lot more details, but closing for me is i'm glad it's done, even if it's done poorly imo everyone, end of

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2019/05/19/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-6-the-series-finale/#6c34184b5049

found this also a few weeks ago now and thought it would also be good to share,

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA5mJRFaI8c

and his follow on

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGmfuMxWDxw

like me he loves war games and history and also the TV series, so must admit i do agree with his plans or thoughts as well on what went wrong on some other parts of the TV ending and battle parts this time

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Personally I have nothing against the ending (with perhaps one exception). The problem – as mentioned previously – is the pacing and thus the story telling.

Sansa ending up Queen of t'North, an independent enclave on Westeros, check – Ned would be proud. Arya going off to contemplate her naval in the west? Check, she was never going to settle for being a Lady of some great estate or whateves. Mardy, “tha’ don’t know owt Jon Snow”, ending up with his whippet (well Direwolf) in t’north – t’ real north. Check. Tyrion survives – thank goodness for that, my favourite male character. Check. Lord Edmure being a total dipstick – top marks for that one. Also I did like Brienne’s scene and the epitath she gave to Ser Jaime – and she gets a job in the small council with Bronn – now master of coin…. Er really? Speaking of coin, so the whole Bank of Braavos red herring was just er a red herring.

But the two main protagonists? For practically the entire run its been clear Daenerys and Jon Snow (ignoring the small matter of his murder of course) are going to be around till the end. As the show neared its climax, (and the MoD became increasingly unhinged) it became ever more apparent that these two would have to come together eventually – good (but a bit dull) vs evil (but more than a bit tasty).

And sure enough they did… and Jon killed his lover, auntie, Queen etc. Dramatic huh? Er… no. That scene must have taken about 5 minutes…. Really?? It’s not a bloody afterthought – it’s the climax of the Game of Thrones!!

They could have made it so much more dramatic. Jon, after his chat with Tyrion, knows what needs to be done and goes to confront her. But then the MoD waxes lyrical about a better world, breaking the wheel, shiny biceps for all etc, and Jon, the mopey bastard who knows nothing, succumbs to Daenerys ‘charms’. It looks like he will fall into line only for the MoD to say something inopportune about the north and/or Sansa. Only at that point does Jon wake up, smell the coffee, and plunge his sword in Daenerys (ohh er missus, cheeky!).

The whole Jon/MoD scene – the culmination of the series for goodness sake - was just too rushed. Blink and you’d have missed it. BTW, does anyone know why Drogon melted the Iron Throne? Was that a spot of political satire from the fire breathing beast? And where he at? Last we heard he was conveniently still heading east out of the story – maybe he’ll meet Arya heading west if the world is indeed round.

And as for what followed…..

So Jon has killed someone who is effectively a goddess to the Dothraki and the saviour to the Unsullied , who are programmed to fight to the death for her. Oh and where the hell did all those Unsullied come from? Despite the Harpies, the Undead, and the Lannisters, there were more Unsullied at the end than when Daenerys freed them from that old weasel in Astaphor or wherever it was. But I digress, so after Jon has slain their Queen what happens? He’s locked up instead of being hung, drawn and quartered… of course. “Mr Snow?” “Aye, appen as maybe”. “I’m arresting you sunshine on suspicion of Regicide… you have the right to remain silent……”.

But it gets worse. Tyrion – who betrayed the MoD remember - is brought before the gathering of familiar faces from previous episodes/series under armed guard led by Grey Worm. Who is Grey Worm taking orders from to do this? His Queen has been brutally slain in her hour of triumph but Grey Worm – apart from shouting a little bit at Tyrion and tells him he’s not here to speak – is then content to allow Tyrion to conduct proceedings…..

This wasn’t just rushed, it was borderline farcical – Lord Edmure aside (although he could have brought Lady Roslin along with him, the selfish whatsit).

And that just leaves Bran. As mentioned previously, even when GoT was hitting the heights spectacularly (essentially the entire seasons 1-6) the whole speccy 4-eyes raven thing was something of a fast forward moment. Why is he King? What about old whatisface? Maximillian Schell?* Why didn’t he get to be King when he was the previous 3-eyed raven? What did he get for his trouble and pain, just a rented room in Whalley Range – well by that I mean he sort of grew into tree type thing or something and lived underground like a Womble. Seems a bit unfair.

So who chose Bran to be whatever he was? Did he know he was going to be King? Did he know MoD was a nutter? Being King should be fun for him though. If he wants to know what his subjects are doing he just needs to do the eye rolling malarchy and spy on them. It’s good to be King.

But the whole Bran thing aside, I really wished they'd dug their heels in and said - either we make series 7 and 8 10 episodes or we don't make it. The story then stood a chance to have been told in a way that the series deserved - not to mention the millions of fans who invested so much time in it.

*EDIT - no the other one it was Max von Sydow

I agree. Did the Showrunners not know what to do without GRR Martin to guide them? Too many loose ends and rushed, improbable events.

It reminds me of the end of the Lord of the Rings - 'and they all lived happily ever after' (excepting Sean Bean, of course).

How could you possibly confuzzle Max and Maximilian?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

How could you possibly confuzzle Max and Maximilian?

warspite1

Well they're both called Maximilian Schell and both were in Cross of Iron, except Max von Sydow

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Zorch

How could you possibly confuzzle Max and Maximilian?

warspite1

Well they're both called Maximilian Schell and both were in Cross of Iron, except Max von Sydow

If Monty had been in command we'd still be waiting for a battle. [:D]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Zorch

How could you possibly confuzzle Max and Maximilian?

warspite1

Well they're both called Maximilian Schell and both were in Cross of Iron, except Max von Sydow

If Monty had been in command we'd still be waiting for a battle. [:D]

warspite1

And if Patton was in command he would've bitch-slapped half the Lannister Army...but only if they were suffering from PTSD [;)]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Zorch

How could you possibly confuzzle Max and Maximilian?

warspite1

Well they're both called Maximilian Schell and both were in Cross of Iron, except Max von Sydow

If Monty had been in command we'd still be waiting for a battle. [:D]

warspite1

The directors were going to have him in charge, but then it was pointed out they only had 6 episodes.