Do Axis minor units respawn if destroyed?

Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945 is a turn-based World War II strategy game stretching across the entire Eastern Front. Gamers can engage in an epic campaign, including division-sized battles with realistic and historical terrain, weather, orders of battle, logistics and combat results.

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Do Axis minor units respawn if destroyed?

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Like it says. I thought I saw a Romanian unit respawn once but looking at the manual, it refers only to German (and Soviet) units.
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I lost 2 hungarian divisions once and they respawned.
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I think all on map units respawn now. But I'm not sure if support units respawn. I think not.
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I think all on map units respawn now. But I'm not sure if support units respawn. I think not.

Change to the manual then?
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I think all on map units respawn now. But I'm not sure if support units respawn. I think not.
Change to the manual then?

I can confirm cases of Rumanian SUs (non-withdrawing) being destroyed and not respawning (Screenshots available if needed). What the reason is I do not know.
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1.08.08 suggests they should respawn:
40. Destroyed units of Axis allies, as well as all Axis support units will return as German onmap units do. On-map units will be frozen on refit for 3 turns with MAX TOE set to 50. Usually they will be placed in westernmost city having the same nationality. Support units will arrive at their national HQ with MAX TOE set to 50. There will be a message in the logistics log for every such unit.
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1.08.08 suggests they should respawn:
40. Destroyed units of Axis allies, as well as all Axis support units will return as German onmap units do. On-map units will be frozen on refit for 3 turns with MAX TOE set to 50. Usually they will be placed in westernmost city having the same nationality. Support units will arrive at their national HQ with MAX TOE set to 50. There will be a message in the logistics log for every such unit.

I'll adjust the manual. missed that one i think.
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Also if I understand it correctly German support units that are withdrawing/disbanding do not respawn.

for example in the 8MP game 2/46 SP flak coy which goes on turn 50 was destroyed on turn 36.

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It never came back - here is a screenshot from turn 38



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Something to investigate.
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If Soviet support units surrender (eg attached to a surrendering fort) they get respawned, if they are destroyed they do not. Thats how it used to be.
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If Soviet support units surrender (eg attached to a surrendering fort) they get respawned, if they are destroyed they do not. Thats how it used to be.

Think I vaguely remember that but it never made sense then and still doesn't.
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I came to a conclusion that this whole part needs a rewrite, as it is a mess right now, of too many add-ons over a very simple base.
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Removed

Forget what I did write here. I'm blind, stupid or both.
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I have copied the text from whatsnew.pdf, don't know why you can't find it.
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