Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Tookatee]

The Mi-2 helicopter (currently included in the Cold War database) is missing in DB3000. Its service life ended in the 1980s-1990s for most of the Eastern block (some major historical examples would be the East Germany and Poland), but some nations still retain them in service today, most prominently North Korea.

Source: Wikipedia for the MI-2 and the SIPRI Arms Transfers Database.

[Tookatee]

The PLAAF 737's are also missing from the database. Similarly to the TU-154M Careless that were converted for ELINT duties, China also operates 14 737's in an ELINT/VIP transport role. The aircraft were originally purchased legally for Chinese airlines, but in 2007 (possible much earlier than this) it was reported that these aircraft had been illegally requisitioned by the PLAAF and converted into ELINT and airborne command aircraft for commanders. Currently there are eight 737-300s, two 737-700s, and four 737-800s in service.

Source: Wikipedia article for List of active People's Liberation Army aircraft (see citation one), the Wikipedia article for the 737, the planespotters dot net page on the PLAAF, and the XaierForces article on the PLAAF.

[Tookatee]

The civilian Boeing 737 MAX family of aircraft are currently missing from the database. It entered service with its first airline in 2017 and is the newest line of the 737.

Source: Wikipedia article for the 737 MAX.

[Tookatee]

The Boeing 720 is also missing from both the Cold War database and DB3000. It was a derivative of the 707 that was in commercial service from 1960 until 2010. Two versions were produced, the baseline 720 with Pratt & Whitney JT3C turbojet engines and the 720B in 1961 with Pratt & Whitney JT3D turbofans.

Source: Wikipedia for the Boeing 720.

[Tookatee]

The 9M337 Sosna-R (SA-24) SAM system is a Russian SAM system that entered service in 2019 as a replacement for the Strela 10M. It holds 12 ready to fire laser/radio guided missiles that can be reloaded in 12 minutes. The missile has a maximum range of 10 km, flies at 900 meters per second, and its payload is made up of two warheads (a fragmented-rod warhead for proximity detonation and an AP-Frag warhead for impact detonation) weighing a total of 7 kg. The Sosna’s self-contained optical sensor allows it to track 50 targets and engage one on the move. The Sosna weapons system is based to the hull of a MT-LB which gives it a top speed of 62 km/h and a range of 500 km.

Source: Wikipedia article for the Sosna and the army recognition dot com article on the Sosna.

[Tookatee]

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[ProdigyofMilitaryPride]

For DB3000, this here if you don't mind...

Source
https://www.helis.com/database/news/mi-17_mexico/

[Rory Noonan]

ORIGINAL: Tookatee

Another missing facility is the French Pluton theater ballistic missile. Seventy were deployed and it was in service from 1974 to 1993 and was launched off of a TEL on an AMX-30 tank chassis than gave it a top speed of 60 km/h with a 600km range. The missile weighed 2,423 kg and had a minimum range of 17km and a maximum range of 120km, with a CEP of 150m. It used inertial guidance and flew at 1100 meters per second with either a 15 kt nuclear warhead, a 25 kt nuclear warhead, or a conventional 500 kg HE warhead. It was often apart of divisions escorted by the AMX-10P IFV and supported in the field by the R20 combat reconnaissance drone (which is also missing from the database.)

Source: Military Today article on the Pluton.

Have you actually looked at the latest database?

[Tookatee]

yeah, I looked up Pluton and didn't find it in the DB3000 database

[Tookatee]

Oh, I didn't know they released a new database on here on the 13th. I've been using the Steam version and I thought that would update when something new came out.

[Tookatee]

The AMX-10P is missing from the French Army. It was in service from 1973 until 2015, undergoing some up armored modernization improvements from 2006-2008. Other major variants include the AMX-10/HOT (had two ready to fire HOT missile launchers with an additional 20 stored inside) and AMX-10/Milan (with two MILAN ATGM launchers and 10 additional missiles stored on the inside.)

Source: Wikipedia, Military Today, and Tank Encyclopedia articles for the AMX-10P.

[BDukes]

Hellos

Came across interesting out of service dates. These most important so BDukes and other dope don't put in scenareos.

Look like last Flight one Los Angeles Bremerton decommissions this year. So Los Angelese #555 given 2019 Outs.

http://seawaves.com/developments/ship-decommissionings/

Looking at Wikipedia list seems more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_L ... submarines

Look like 2019 out date for Dallas version #557. Buffalo last boat and outs in January this year.

So all Flight I versions outs by this year-2019.

Thanks!

[BDukes]

ORIGINAL: Tookatee

Another weapons system that's missing are the ballistic missile variants of the Chinese B-611. It has a range of 150km to 450km depending on the variant and was first publicly shown in 2004 with a newer variant being first shown in 2006. The variants include the baseline B611 with a 500kg warhead, the B611M with a 480 kg warhead and a range between 80 and 260km, and the B611MR an ARM semi-ballistic missile first shown in 2014 that uses inertial GPS guidance and a wideband passive radar.

Source: Wikipedia article for the B-611, see citation #1 for more detailed information.

This already in databases. Look in china facility for SY-400. #1679. Turks version there too.

This make you happy? It does me[8D]

[Tookatee]

No, the SY-400 is a different variant of the B611. It has entirely different ranges and limited capability.

[Tookatee]

The variants I specified are missing from the database and are entirely different weapons systems than the SY400.

[BDukes]

Italy ship out of service dates[&:]

Ok All Italian Minerva Frigates (#1134) gone by 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva-class_corvette
Second source here
http://seawaves.com/developments/ship-decommissionings/

Italian Artigliere/Iraqi Lupo retires all by 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupo-class_frigate
http://seawaves.com/developments/ship-decommissionings/

Thanks!

[Tookatee]

The T-55M/T-55AM are missing from the database. It was a 1983 modernization of the T-55/T-55A by the Soviet Union, widely exported (main export users were Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary). It boasted improved armor, the ability to fire the 9K116-1 "Bastion" ATGM (even while on the move), and improved gun stabilization systems and sights (the exact system varies between each country, but the main ones were the Russian "Tsiklon-M1" gun stabilization system and TShSM-32PV sights and the Czech Klavido FCS.) They were in service in most countries until the early 2000s.

Source: Wikipedia and Global Security dot com articles for the T-55.

[Rory Noonan]

Hey guys just a friendly reminder that this thread is for requests for platforms that are going to be used in community scenarios, and meaningful corrections to existing platforms. Unfortunately it's not practical for us to dedicate dev time to including sundry platforms simply because they exist(ed).

Also a reminder that references should be somewhat more detailed than a mention of Wikipedia. Include at least a link to the relevant page, please.

And finally, please check the most current version of the DB3k before posting an update request.

[Tookatee]

Unfortunately I'm not allowed to post links yet, it hasn't been 11 days from my seventh post so I can only write out the website titles. And personally when I just link the Wikipedia article that's usually because it's either the only place where any detailed information is available or it already has the most relevant citations at the bottom of the indicated article(s). Although as you can see where applicable I use more than one source. And the Pluton was the only vehicle where I had that issue, every other issue I've posted here still hasn't been added in/fixed. And on the importance of the vehicles I've recommended, I'd say all of the combat vehicle's I've pointed out to include have been/are either: current mass produced combat vehicles for the nations they're apart of or important historical/future vehicles for said nation (in the sense that they were/will be mass produced.)

[TwarVG]

Tookatee, I can't imagine a random assortment of AFVs and airliners are of paramount importance in a game whose main focus is air and naval combat. In a perfect world, the database would contain entries for every asset you could think of but that's just not realistic. Next time you're thinking of submitting a request, maybe ask yourself how important that asset is to the game and if it would really be worth the effort to include it. As Apache85 said, it's not practical to spend time adding something to the database merely because it existed. Plus if you really want something included, add as many sources as you can and you've got a better shot. At least once a day I'll flick through the forum to look at the new posts and I'm slightly impressed with how many posts you've been making and how passionate you seem to be about getting the finer details right, keep it up my friend!