Three new titans

Black Knight · Post by **Black Knight** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:12 pm

I've done my work on the Wraith M4. I'm very pleased with it's performance in the LR battle against other titans in any size. The Wraith M4 is a light titan equipped with a gauss gun, a GMH4 and a machine gun for Close Combat. However, ammo is low. The Titan has no jump port, but it has a relative thick armor.

My 2nd new titan is the Beast M1, a medium close combat titan. It is armed with 2 Power-Axes, 2 Flamethrowers, and 2 Heavy Lasers. The Laser should only be fired if you are not in range for the other weapons, because they will overheat the titan very fast. It has a DCS, and a jump port.

The 3rd titan is called Prominence M1, a medium long range titan. It's a remake of the Thor, with a small change in the weaponry. It is armed with a plasma gun, an AC4 and an E.M. Pulser. The prototype had a pulse laser, but it was overheating very fast, so i removed it and installed a better heat regulator. After doing this, it is still overheating, but not as fast as the Thor. The Prominence M1's armor is medium, and it is equipped with a jump port.

Together, this three titans are a serious threat for any other team in the same weight-category.

Write me what you think about them.

Sleeping_Dragon · Post by **Sleeping_Dragon** » Sat Aug 23, 2003 10:13 pm

Reguarding the Wraith M4

I like the set up, just wanted to make you aware of two things that may improve it a bit.

The armor in the head is maxed Millinium, Millinium should only be considered if there is a heat regulator in that location, else there are better choices. For the same wieght you could have 3 additional armor points in the head if you use duralloy. This would even leave a little room left over, so if you wanted the squeeze a few pts of armor off elsewhere, you could armor the head up to 18 points worth, a 5 point gain over the currrent model. Personally I only use maxed duralloy for the head, it always gives the best protection (unless changes since 1.4 have changed this, and if so I haven't run across a situation yet that says otherwise) Personally I always max head armor since the head contains the most irreplacable titan component, the jock.

The other suggestion is definatly not as clear cut as the first. Since you have quite a few empty internal locations in the titan, you MAY consider changing the chassis from a chassis4 to a chassis2 or 3, This would reduce you base move by a pt or 2 (not good) and lose a few internal location slots (but you have quite a few already empty) in return this would give you a better handling modifier and free up a few extra tons of wieght for use on other systems. I'm not sure if you could fit everything you want into a smaller chassis, but with all the internal locations left open in the current design, I'd guess there's a good chance its doable. This is definatley a personal call on your part on whether the trade offs are worth it, but I think it's something you should look at.

Just suggestions offered in a friendly manner

LarkinVB · Post by **LarkinVB** » Sat Aug 23, 2003 10:24 pm

Heads should alway have Dullaroy maxed out. I can't think of any reason not to do it.

Black Knight · Post by **Black Knight** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:19 pm

Oops! I must have mixed up the armor types when i reworked the M3's armor.

I know, there are many things that could be improved. Another problem with the M4 is the ammo. If you are out of ammo, the Wraith M4 is almost useless. I thougt, that the MG could be replaced by a laser. But it would need too many PUs.

All in all, the Wraith M4 is the attempt to combine a light titan's agility, with the power of a gauss gun and the GMH's range. Because of the lack of a Jump Port, the handling (-5%) and the slow recycling of the weapons, the M4 is only useable as a light support titan with above-average firepower.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:50 pm

I wouldn't exactly call GC+GMH4 above-average firepower.

Sleeping_Dragon · Post by **Sleeping_Dragon** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:32 am

I liked the design, in fact I rebuilt it on a lighter chassis, and added it to my database as a private design after I looked at it. Armor was improved, got rid of the -5 handling mod, doubled the ammo on the Guass, and greatly improved the cooling rate, although I did have to reduce the flares a lvl due to space concerns on a smaller chassis.

With the Guass and the GMH it's definatly a mid- to long range support titan. I even thought about adding a med. laser as a back up weapon... The titan CAN power it! Just not at full efficientcy if you are running. But in the spirit of the design I left the MG in, besides if you add the laser it scatters the combat skills you need from 2 to 3. Not typically a good call. I think its a little too similiar to the Spear for 'public' inclusion into my database (too many similiar designs open to public and the AI diversity can decrease) but I like the combo of Guass and GMs. Actually for a Cannon/GM jock maybe a Guass and 2 GME racks... hmmmm may be time for a trip to the factory to make sure there isn't one of those already...

btw... EVERYONE hits the wrong armor button a few times

Anyway Black Knight if your interested, here's the version of the Wraith M4 (renamed to just Wraith) from my database

Black Knight · Post by **Black Knight** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:19 pm

Here is a new version of the Wraith, the Wraith M4-PL. I replaced the MG with a Pulse laser. In addition, i changed the head's armor from Millenia to Dullaroy. As a result, it's armor is improved, and the firepower-rating is higher. I've not tested it yet, but if you are interested, you can download it here.

I've just downloaded your Wraith, Sleeping Dragon. I will test it soon.

Black Knight · Post by **Black Knight** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:23 pm

I wouldn't exactly call GC+GMH4 above-average firepower.

Not for a medium titan, but for a light titan?

Black Knight · Post by **Black Knight** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:33 pm

Here's a nev version of the Wraith, the Wraith M4-PL. I replaced the MG with a Pulse Laser, and changed the Head's armor from Millenia to Duralloy. I've not tested it yet, but if you are interested, you can download it here.

I've just downloaded your Wraith, Sleeping Dragon. I will try it out soon.

I wouldn't exactly call GC+GMH4 above-average firepower.

Maybe not for a medium titan, but for a light titan?

PrinceCorrin · Post by **PrinceCorrin** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:29 am

Black Knight wrote:Here's a nev version of the Wraith, the Wraith M4-PL. I replaced the MG with a Pulse Laser, and changed the Head's armor from Millenia to Duralloy. I've not tested it yet, but if you are interested, you can download it here.

I've just downloaded your Wraith, Sleeping Dragon. I will try it out soon.

Maybe not for a medium titan, but for a light titan?

If you seriously find yourself consistently runing into ammo issues, exchange the GC for a plasma gun, and the MG for a light or medium laser. You should be able to compensate for the heat with millenia armor and a better heat reg, from the weight saved with the absence of the GC. This would also kill the 3 wep type problem. But now it's really starting to sound like the spear.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:11 pm

Black Knight wrote:Maybe not for a medium titan, but for a light titan?

That's what I meant

After all, it's a light, not a medium.