German Crews in H2H disappearing??

[Major_Johnson]

I'm in the middle of a PBEM battle (Steel Shield), me being the Allies. My opponent is complaining that when his crews are forced to abandon their vehicles, they just disappear, where as my crews stay on the battlefield. Has anyone else seen this?? Thanks

[Voriax]

Hello

You have too many units, there is no space for the crews to appear. Try a tad smaller battle next time

Voriax

[Capt. Pixel]

If I understand correctly, you're playing a pre-made scenario. If this is the case, and you've opted to play H2H mod, your crews might not have the proper icon attached.

A similar thing happened to me while playing Whitman's Gamble. All of the dismounted British Rifle squads appeared as Personal Shelters rather than squads of men.

They were still easy to intimidate with Whitman's Tiger, but they never moved.

[Major_Johnson]

Well this particular scenario was made for H2H. I have a feeling there is something else going on. Maybe if the person that designed H2H reads this, they may have an idea as to what's going on.

[chief]

Are you both using The fr mod of H2H? Usually you don't run into any problems (except mines) with Wild Bills scenarios.

[Major_Johnson]

Are you both using The fr mod of H2H? Usually you don't run into any problems (except mines) with Wild Bills scenarios.

FR Mod?? Never heard of it.

But Vorax, your not the first person to say that there may be to many units. I guess that may be the case. But I now am noticing the same thing happening to my crews also.

Wild Bill, HELP!!!

[VikingNo2]

Its happened to me in a game where I switched to the new H2H during the game.


Another problem I just ran across the Bicycle infantry(second line ) is almost impossible to kill, Leo is there something weird that was done to them. They are out fighting Eleite troops and tanks, and they don't take casualties, however I did notice that a squad of them got killed and dissappeared with one rifle shot


Had one of them take 6, 85mm point blank shots and infanrty attack with no casualties, they finally ran but this is a definate problem

[Panzer Leo]

Its happened to me in a game where I switched to the new H2H during the game.


Another problem I just ran across the Bicycle infantry(second line ) is almost impossible to kill, Leo is there something weird that was done to them. They are out fighting Eleite troops and tanks, and they don't take casualties, however I did notice that a squad of them got killed and dissappeared with one rifle shot


Had one of them take 6, 85mm point blank shots and infanrty attack with no casualties, they finally ran but this is a definate problem

I'm pretty sure they took casualties, you just can't see it. The icon stays the same and you get no report. When it finally disappears, it means you killed the last active man in that squad...so no immortals there

If you changed version during a game, things like disappearing crews might happen...these things are rare, but do occur...so better to wait till a game is over and then switch...

[Frank W.]

btw leo:

i think pz4 J is wrong.

it is cheaper than the H modell.

that´s right, this was a cheaper one
to build. but it had the big drawback
that the turret had to be moved per
hand ( so to say ) and not electrical.

so it should be worse in targeting as
the models before.

!!

" die einsetzende materialknappheit zwang
die hersteller dazu, auf den elektrisch schwenkbaren
turm zu verzichten u. ein handrad vorzusehen.

die folge war, daß der turm nun wesentlich mehr zeit
zum schwenken benötigte"

[chief]

Panzer Leo put out the original H2H(ce) version and thats been superceded by his H2H(fr) version available on his site. Its been out for over a month. Now you know.

[Belisarius]

Panzer Leo put out the original H2H(ce) version and thats been superceded by his H2H(fr) version available on his site. Its been out for over a month. Now you know.

Speaking of which.... shouldn't Matrixgames be able to host H2H at the Downloads section? I mean, they DO have a "mods" subsection after all... with only Chlandas map editor... :rolleyes:

[VikingNo2]

Leo, glad to hear you didn't do anything to the bicycle infantry, however they are not acting properly for second line troops , I will play a few more games to see if this is just a one game thing.

They are acting as if they where elite ? Maybe some wierd random experience level thing

[Belisarius]

Leo, glad to hear you didn't do anything to the bicycle infantry, however they are not acting properly for second line troops , I will play a few more games to see if this is just a one game thing.

They are acting as if they where elite ? Maybe some wierd random experience level thing

Huh? Bicycles are second line troops?

[VikingNo2]

yes

[Major_Johnson]

Ok, now it's the allied crews that are also disappearing off the battlefield when they bail. At this point in the battle there is definitely less total units alive. But the allied reinforcements would definitely bring the overall total up. So my question is do the killed units still count against the overall total and is that why now that I am having the same issue as my opponent??

[Voriax]

Ok, now it's the allied crews that are also disappearing off the battlefield when they bail. At this point in the battle there is definitely less total units alive. But the allied reinforcements would definitely bring the overall total up. So my question is do the killed units still count against the overall total and is that why now that I am having the same issue as my opponent??

I'd say yes. Even though the unit dies it won't vanish from your roster nor from your formation count. I don't recall offhand what the limits are but you could do a search, it has been discussed before.

Voriax

[Major_Johnson]

Yo guys! Check out my thread about he 1636% tank toughness!! These disappearing crews are associated with it!