Copy protection question

Charles2222 · Post by **Charles2222** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:31 pm

Marc Schwanebeck wrote:I told you earlier that shortcut size depends also on the color range etc. of the acutally icon (.ico) file

I assume you used the "KP_Icon.ico", this is a mulit Icon file. It contains multiple icon sizes that are needed to garantue a rather crisp icon in all areas needed (desktop, windows explorer, Start menu etc.) It incorporates a 16x16, 24x24, 32x32 and 48x48 pixels icon.

Yes, that's true, I did. Only thing is, at this point, why did the other poster have a much smaller file? This was the first time I replaced an icon, but it's the very same size as the original shortcut icon off the disk. So how is it possible that someone else has a 550ish kb file while I would assume they're running the same icon off the disk I am? Like I said, mine isn't technically the same, since it no longer has the shortcut "arrow", which theirs probably does, but if the absence of an arrow would likely affect anything, you'd think it be smaller, instead mine is larger. I recall now, you were the one who said that your shortcut was 579kb. Can you make sense of this? Am I the only one with the "elite" 2kb shortcut? :rolleyes:

Rob Gjessing · Post by **Rob Gjessing** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:25 am

Are we really debating the size of an icon/shortcut? Is this right?

Life is short guys.. you should be spending your valuable time playing this fine game not worrying about the size of an icon.

Charles2222 · Post by **Charles2222** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:27 am

Rob Gjessing wrote:Are we really debating the size of an icon/shortcut? Is this right? Life is short guys.. you should be spending your valuable time playing this fine game not worrying about the size of an icon.

Try reading the entire thread and perhaps it'll make a little more sense. I had an anti-spyware program which determined in a couple of instances that the file had a trojan. The size of the file is relevant because mine is coming out as a different sized file than Marc's. I suspected a registry entry I made to shortcuts had made some difference, the only problem is that none of the other shortcuts appear to have been affected, and I'm not entirely sure whether this shortcut isn't that way on the disk.

Happily the sort of trojan it was flagging (2-3 times it didn't flag though), one in which your IE home page is taken over, did not occur.

If you had a ballooned file that has been so flagged, wouldn't you at least want to know the mystery behind it? There is lots of trivial stuff on this board, whereas this problem, at this time, trivial to you, could certainly be more than that later. What if the registry entry is having unforeseen consequences for example? What if disks with enlarged files (not entirely sure it's on my disk that way and I don't feel like re-installing) end up causing problems down the line for those users?

Rob Gjessing · Post by **Rob Gjessing** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:42 am

Yeah no I know all of that, I have been following the thread - I even have posted in it earlier on. I spose what I am saying is I thought we had all moved on thats all. Matrix have confirmed that they dont have any spyware of any other stuff in their installer.

I think I have stated that through all of my months of testing and playing it, I have never experienced it trying to connect to the internet (may have mentioned that in a different thread).. and SSG dont have any spyware in their software..

I dont know what the issue with the shortcut is, Marc seems to offer some sort of explaination.. If its still a problem, maybe try and uninstall (make sure all of your registry references have been removed also - if you are that computer savy - and it sounds like you may be) and then reboot, run your virus scanner.. or trojan looker-ater-er and then reinstall KP and see how it goes.

Good luck..

edited to add the following thoughts: Often virus scanning software/spyware software will report something based upon probability.. ie: this application has code which seems to act like its a virus.. and usually its not a virus or whatever - its just has some similar code - if you know what I mean. Maybe its flagging it in a similar way?

Charles2222 · Post by **Charles2222** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 8:36 pm

Rob Gjessing wrote:Yeah no I know all of that, I have been following the thread - I even have posted in it earlier on. I spose what I am saying is I thought we had all moved on thats all. Matrix have confirmed that they dont have any spyware of any other stuff in their installer.

I think I have stated that through all of my months of testing and playing it, I have never experienced it trying to connect to the internet (may have mentioned that in a different thread).. and SSG dont have any spyware in their software..

I dont know what the issue with the shortcut is, Marc seems to offer some sort of explaination.. If its still a problem, maybe try and uninstall (make sure all of your registry references have been removed also - if you are that computer savy - and it sounds like you may be) and then reboot, run your virus scanner.. or trojan looker-ater-er and then reinstall KP and see how it goes.

Good luck..

edited to add the following thoughts: Often virus scanning software/spyware software will report something based upon probability.. ie: this application has code which seems to act like its a virus.. and usually its not a virus or whatever - its just has some similar code - if you know what I mean. Maybe its flagging it in a similar way?

10-4, only sometimes it's best to bring out the entire scope of the picture. Everyone was concerned about a possible trojan, while I like they had seemingly moved on from that, particularly since Spybot wasn't flagging it anymore, which of course moved me on to the sole remaining semi-interesting bit. If all my shortcuts had grown, it would be a different matter, but at least my elite KP shortcut hasn't seemed to give me any trouble. I'm not too computer savy, though I've worked around them in one form or another for the past 20 years, but every now and again I'll have a shining moment......

Oh, here's one for you, and the good Lord must've blessed me with this because I've never seen it done. Assuming you don't have a popup stopper (I don't at work) or even if you do and you get blitzed with porn popups or something, try the following: I tried this at work on a W2000pro - Hit ctrl-alt-delete, then DON'T select one of the popups and 'endtask', but select all of them at one time, via using ctrl-LMB to select them. This will bring them all down at one time. Fascinatingly enough, though closing windows through 'end task' is prone to knocking down even the original IE window you had, even if you didn't select it, this time it did not. It did give me some sort of error, but the compuer worked fine the rest of the day. I had one of those porn popup blitzes where closing the window the usual way brought 2 or more in it's wake. Just the awfullest thing to happen at work. To make matters worse there's an 8 or so panel window within 5 feet of my desk (a little showcase area). I've only done this once so I can't account for how well it works.