Just make sure she doesn't flip over, like Guam!ORIGINAL: btd64
ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Refineries turn oil into fuel and supply, depending upon the scenario - no supply. LI turns resources into supply. HI turns fuel and resources into Heavy Industry (HI) points and supply.
I definitely suggest that you read the manual if you have not read it. If you have read it, read the pertinent sections again. [:@]
Alternatively you could start thinking outside the box. Have you tried moving Australia instead?
Put some pontoons under her....[:D][:D][:D]....GP
Australia is to far away!
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RE: Australia is to far away!
"It's all according to how your boogaloo situation stands, you understand."
Formerly known as Colonel Mustard, before I got Slitherine Syndrome.
Formerly known as Colonel Mustard, before I got Slitherine Syndrome.
RE: Australia is to far away!
Australia is not too much of anything.
If you want a second opinion ask me again!
I have heard that Australia is too much of a nice place. So, are you stating that it is not? [&:]
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“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
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I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
RE: Australia is to far away!
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Australia is not too much of anything.
If you want a second opinion ask me again!
I have heard that Australia is too much of a nice place. So, are you stating that it is not? [&:]
Correct, not too much of a nice place.
There are enough not nice places that offset the places you see in the travel brochures to lower the average to “just right”.
Currently playing my first PBEM, no house rules Scenario 1 as IJ.
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RE: Australia is to far away!
You really have to be patient and build your supporting bases and systems in SOPAC while slowly building supplies in OZ. Use New Zealand as a hub as well until supporting bases are built.
Any spare AK's, AP's or anything else shouldn't be leaving the DEI without loads of fuel, send those loaded to OZ to get you started before sailing the transports to Capetown or West Coast.
Think also about sending unneeded transports from India to DEI for fuel via Oz then U.S.and Capetown.
Good advice here!
Any spare AK's, AP's or anything else shouldn't be leaving the DEI without loads of fuel, send those loaded to OZ to get you started before sailing the transports to Capetown or West Coast.
Think also about sending unneeded transports from India to DEI for fuel via Oz then U.S.and Capetown.
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
I mix TKs and xAKs( ones with large endurance ) into a single TF so it has enough range to travel to OZ and back without any refueling.
Good advice here!
"There’s no such thing as a bitter person who keeps the bitterness to himself.” ~ Erwin Lutzer
RE: Australia is to far away!
TKs loaded with oil is also good since Australia has a shortage of oil for its refineries.
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I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
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“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
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HansBolter
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RE: Australia is to far away!
Good advice from all. +1 on the last two posts.
I always like making NZ a hub for SoPac.
AS RJ points out you need oil for the refineries. Many players would eschew the effort and focus on fuel since it is the end product you need for the HI and the navy. I try to do like RJ and get oil there, especially before the tapline of both commodities from the DEI is cut off.
Many players will also eschew getting enough fuel to OZ to run its HI and will counsel turning off the HI. I prefer to leave it on and make the effort to get enough fuel there for both the HI and navy. If you fuel the HI, OZ will produce enough supply to take care of itself, allowing you to push your building SoPac stockpiles elsewhere.
Managing your logistics takes some forethought and planning. Experimentation is the best way to discover what works and what doesn't, giving you a framework for the forethought and the planning. No way to master it but to wade in and muck it up.
I always like making NZ a hub for SoPac.
AS RJ points out you need oil for the refineries. Many players would eschew the effort and focus on fuel since it is the end product you need for the HI and the navy. I try to do like RJ and get oil there, especially before the tapline of both commodities from the DEI is cut off.
Many players will also eschew getting enough fuel to OZ to run its HI and will counsel turning off the HI. I prefer to leave it on and make the effort to get enough fuel there for both the HI and navy. If you fuel the HI, OZ will produce enough supply to take care of itself, allowing you to push your building SoPac stockpiles elsewhere.
Managing your logistics takes some forethought and planning. Experimentation is the best way to discover what works and what doesn't, giving you a framework for the forethought and the planning. No way to master it but to wade in and muck it up.
Hans
RE: Australia is to far away!
quote:
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
quote:
Australia is not too much of anything.
If you want a second opinion ask me again!
I have heard that Australia is too much of a nice place. So, are you stating that it is not?
jdsrae
Correct, not too much of a nice place.
There are enough not nice places that offset the places you see in the travel brochures to lower the average to “just right”.
One of my uncles went there and drove around with his family for awhile. He took pictures and stayed in contact with some people. He traded agates for opals.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child-
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RE: Australia is to far away!
If I put Oz as the destination but have a way point in Fiji tell it to fuel.
The ship will do that?
The ship will do that?
RE: Australia is to far away!
Yes.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
RE: Australia is to far away!
* If Fiji has fuel! Do not set "Full Refuel" with the waypoint; choose "Minimal Refuel" and the game will give enough additional fuel to get to Oz and back to home port with about 10% to spare. This will reduce the drain on Fiji and prevent you from returning to USA with far more fuel than needed.ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Yes.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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HansBolter
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RE: Australia is to far away!
As long as your opponent doesn't make an extreme SoPac push for Fiji it should become one of your minor theater hubs allowing it to become a working waypoint.
Once you start getting Liberty ships, their 16k endurance allows plotted round trips with waypoints, making it possible to set up Continuous Supply Task Forces for all of SoPac.
Once you start getting Liberty ships, their 16k endurance allows plotted round trips with waypoints, making it possible to set up Continuous Supply Task Forces for all of SoPac.
Hans
RE: Australia is to far away!
I have a thought. [X(]
Australia is in just the right place. If it were in any other place, then it wouldn't be Australia.
Australia is in just the right place. If it were in any other place, then it wouldn't be Australia.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
RE: Australia is to far away!
Are you suggesting that this is all the more reason to move it? [:D]ORIGINAL: Orm
I have a thought. [X(]
Australia is in just the right place. If it were in any other place, then it wouldn't be Australia.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Australia is to far away!
You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Are you suggesting that this is all the more reason to move it? [:D]ORIGINAL: Orm
I have a thought. [X(]
Australia is in just the right place. If it were in any other place, then it wouldn't be Australia.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
RE: Australia is to far away!
If Australia is moved they should gets the firm that did Wheeling, West Virginia.ORIGINAL: Orm
You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Are you suggesting that this is all the more reason to move it? [:D]ORIGINAL: Orm
I have a thought. [X(]
Australia is in just the right place. If it were in any other place, then it wouldn't be Australia.
RE: Australia is to far away!
At least they don't normally have that delightful stuff called Lutefisk there but they do have pasties!
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“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia ChildRE: Australia is to far away!
Would Orm be Mro if Australia moved north?ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
At least they don't normally have that delightful stuff called Lutefisk there but they do have pasties!
RE: Australia is to far away!
Would it be possible to move parts of Australia first ?
I think what I have seen of Perth (family and friends photos - not been there myself sadly) would recommend itself as an immediate candidate to join the norther hemisphere.
In fact Canada would love to adopt it outright - thereby having another of 'one of the most beautiful spots on earth' added to its list of attributes - and further shutting up some of the annoying Vancouver boosters [8D]
However the parts with all those snakes / spiders / sea crocodiles... mehh .... let them continue to migrate along at 3cm per year.
[:D]
I think what I have seen of Perth (family and friends photos - not been there myself sadly) would recommend itself as an immediate candidate to join the norther hemisphere.
In fact Canada would love to adopt it outright - thereby having another of 'one of the most beautiful spots on earth' added to its list of attributes - and further shutting up some of the annoying Vancouver boosters [8D]
However the parts with all those snakes / spiders / sea crocodiles... mehh .... let them continue to migrate along at 3cm per year.
[:D]
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: Australia is to far away!
Bad news, Perth has got snakes too...
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/categ ... ust/perth/
Good news, not all of them are extremely deadly. Some are rated only mildly deadly, and a few are cuddly pythons.
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/categ ... ust/perth/
Good news, not all of them are extremely deadly. Some are rated only mildly deadly, and a few are cuddly pythons.
Currently playing my first PBEM, no house rules Scenario 1 as IJ.
AAR link (no SolInvictus): https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4684655
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RE: Australia is to far away!
Vancouver is nice, especially the rock garden. Banff is beautiful . . .
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child