the 80th anniversary is coming

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Lobster



Ask Poland. They sounded sirens to commemorate it. It is something that people need to be reminded of.

Why? I don't live in Poland. And it started there.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Exactly and that is why we have to protect everybody's rights otherwise we have none.

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I've unfortunately had to report this thread. Consider your posts accordingly.

Alas, I do not think the report system works. Better send a PM instead.

[MrsWargamer]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Lobster



Ask Poland. They sounded sirens to commemorate it. It is something that people need to be reminded of.

Why? I don't live in Poland. And it started there.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are basically calling Socialists Trade Unionists and Jews no better than Nazis.

Use of a supposedly clever quote doesn't always work in every circumstance.
The quote is not always relevant. The context is not always appropriate.

Sometimes the words, are no better than deliberate falsehoods.

Canada went to war in 39 to forcibly remove the Nazis and their cleverly worded falsehoods.

Chickenboy, my anger is directed only at Nazis.
I'm recognizing the start of a heroic moment in time to stand up and say no to a force some would call evil. I'm not religious, I don't recognize the notion of evil. But I once wore the uniform of my country. Because I won't tolerate what some will casually permit.

Von Rocko, that notion might be yours, it isn't one I'd share though.
It's a shame the US 2nd amendment has become a farce. It was meant to permit the citizens of your nation the capacity to remove a government that is clearly NOT of and by and for the people. Currently, I don't see it as being for anyone other than the massively rich. But that is just my opinion and one that I don't need to defend, as I'm not an American.

I'm Canadian, and I have a different document. It's called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
We also observe the Human Rights Code.
And we don't tolerate hate mongers.
By that I mean, hate is legally permitted to be shut down in a courtroom.
In other words, speaking hate can get you arrested in Canada.
In other words, the Nazis are not welcome in Canada.

If you want them, wish to defend them, then you can keep them too.
We are not required to defend them here.

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: Aurelian




Why? I don't live in Poland. And it started there.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are basically calling Socialists Trade Unionists and Jews no better than Nazis.

Use of a supposedly clever quote doesn't always work in every circumstance.
The quote is not always relevant. The context is not always appropriate.

Sometimes the words, are no better than deliberate falsehoods.

Canada went to war in 39 to forcibly remove the Nazis and their cleverly worded falsehoods.

Chickenboy, my anger is directed only at Nazis.
I'm recognizing the start of a heroic moment in time to stand up and say no to a force some would call evil. I'm not religious, I don't recognize the notion of evil. But I once wore the uniform of my country. Because I won't tolerate what some will casually permit.

Von Rocko, that notion might be yours, it isn't one I'd share though.
It's a shame the US 2nd amendment has become a farce. It was meant to permit the citizens of your nation the capacity to remove a government that is clearly NOT of and by and for the people. Currently, I don't see it as being for anyone other than the massively rich. But that is just my opinion and one that I don't need to defend, as I'm not an American.

I'm Canadian, and I have a different document. It's called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
We also observe the Human Rights Code.
And we don't tolerate hate mongers.
By that I mean, hate is legally permitted to be shut down in a courtroom.
In other words, speaking hate can get you arrested in Canada.
In other words, the Nazis are not welcome in Canada.

If you want them, wish to defend them, then you can keep them too.
We are not required to defend them here.

I am not sure I follow your logic here, MrsWargamer.


When the Nazis came for the communists,
I did not speak out;
As I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I did not speak out;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
As I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
As I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Source: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller

Martin Niemöller was imprisoned in a concentration camp from 1938 to 1945.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller

[Lobster]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

But the neo nazi scum should be shot on sight.

And we don't tolerate hate mongers.

And yet here they are.

Hate is hate. You are spiraling down to where it becomes ok to hate a narrowly defined portion of the population and it's okay to kill them. Hmmm...what does that sound like?

All the poor OP wanted was a deal on some games.

This thread needs to be locked.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

But the neo nazi scum should be shot on sight.

And we don't tolerate hate mongers.

And yet here they are.

Hate is hate. You are spiraling down to where it becomes ok to hate a narrowly defined portion of the population and it's okay to kill them. Hmmm...what does that sound like?

All the poor OP wanted was a deal on some games.

This thread needs to be locked.

Not just kill them but to shoot them whenever they are seen. Then claim that is not hate.

Yes, lock this thread.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

Not interested in your rationalizations for your violence-mongering hate speech. I'll not read any more of your screed on the matter.

[Gilmer]

I don't question people's right to hate Nazis. I do question the way many apply the label, though.

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: KurtC

I don't question people's right to hate Nazis. I do question the way many apply the label, though.

I agree - think of Seinfeld's 'Soup Nazi'.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: KurtC

I don't question people's right to hate Nazis. I do question the way many apply the label, though.

It is a weapon, nothing more.

[MrsWargamer]

It's true, the OP just wanted a reason to not pay full price for the wargames here.

As for the rest of the silly nonsense. Well I'm proud to be a Canadian.
We didn't sit around while Europe was on fire and debate the matter.
We didn't need to reason with the Third Reich's hate. And we didn't agonize over their 'right' to be the way they were.
And it really sickens me to listen to the crap that passes for justifications to do nothing.
And I sure wouldn't want to be the one explaining all this bullshit to all of the war dead who died fighting to rid the world of the Nazis.

Calling ME a hate monger, that's rich.
It was entirely ok to kill them in the 40s, nothing's changed.
When their kind drag the US down the drain, don't say you weren't warned.

[Curtis Lemay]

This is the fascist left today: Label anyone you don't like as a "Nazi" and you grant yourself licence to do anything you want to them.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

This is the fascist left today: Label anyone you don't like as a "Nazi" and you grant yourself licence to do anything you want to them.

+1

[Rebel Yell]

+2

Lock this, it's garbage.

[warspite1]

MrsWargamer just think about what you are saying. You're smarter than this.

You are advocating (post 12) that neo-Nazi scum should be shot on sight. Are you really suggesting that should be enshrined in law?

So what is a neo-Nazi? What would allow a law enforcement officer - or even a member of the public in some countries - to simply shoot another member of the public out of hand?

Shooter: "Well the guy had a tattoo and it kind of looked like it could be a swastika and so I shot him"......
Police: "Don't worry son, you weren't to know it was just a badly drawn cross - we'll just put it down as an accident, after all, you can't be too careful with these neo-Nazis......."

I mean seriously what are you advocating here?

And what about countries with 'right' leaning governments? Is it acceptable for them to adopt a 'shoot on sight' policy for Communists... I am sure there would be historic 'justification' somewhere if one cares to look.

And there are plenty more classifications of political or religious groups I could name that a particular government may choose to take exception to.

Where would all this end?

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

MrsWargamer just think about what you are saying. You're smarter than this.

You are advocating (post 12) that neo-Nazi scum should be shot on sight. Are you really suggesting that should be enshrined in law?

So what is a neo-Nazi? What would allow a law enforcement officer - or even a member of the public in some countries - to simply shoot another member of the public out of hand?

Shooter: "Well the guy had a tattoo and it kind of looked like it could be a swastika and so I shot him"......
Police: "Don't worry son, you weren't to know it was just a badly drawn cross - we'll just put it down as an accident, after all, you can't be too careful with these neo-Nazis......."

I mean seriously what are you advocating here?

And what about countries with 'right' leaning governments? Is it acceptable for them to adopt a 'shoot on sight' policy for Communists... I am sure there would be historic 'justification' somewhere if one cares to look.

And there are plenty more classifications of political or religious groups I could name that a particular government may choose to take exception to.

Where would all this end?

+1

[JosephM]

Hello All,

Sorry, but yet again we are locking a post due to politics and indeed this is the 2nd time in 2 days, and again veteran forum members are instigating this. Please note that, again, we do not tolerate discussions of politics on the forums. Please can you avoid derailing posts to discuss this. There are many other places online to discuss these: we sell video games and find politics divides the community, hence why we do not allow discussions of this nature. Please can you avoid doing so in the future.

MrsWargamer, you have been a respected forum member for a long time, but this also means you should know the rules. Consider this a warning before we have to take action against your account.

As for the original subject, while we do have a number of promotions throughout the year, e.g. the D-Day sale we do annually, I cannot discuss when sales are due or what will be contained within these, these are announced on the forums and news feed when they are setup. However we do not mark every anniversary of major battles or events with sales, so note that we may not have a sale due for all such purposes.