Some Storm Rising?

[z1812]

Given all of the military hardware in the vicinity, I have to wonder how it is that the incoming missiles and drones were not at least tracked, and interceptions attempted.

It seems a very convenient incident for those pushing to increase tensions in the region.

[Lobster]

I would guess all of the hardware is at the straights.

[RFalvo69]

ORIGINAL: z1812

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

CNN does seem to agree re: the economics of the event:

I would not trust CNN's analysis of anything.

Well, in this case CNN just stated the obvious.

I wonder if this event (and similar others) can be recreated in Command. Most possibly it will need a DB expansion - but IMHO it would be a fascinating study.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

BTW, one of Saudi's biggest customers, Japan, is modifying two of their helicopter carriers to carry F35B. Izumo and Kaga. Until Japanese pilots get fully trained the U.S. Marines will pilot those aircraft. Marines piloting aircraft off Japanese carriers. Life is stranger than fiction.

That does raise one's eyebrow, doesn't it? Off of the Kaga no less. I think the F35B USMC pilot exchange / training thing is akin to what we did for the British with the QEII's air wing training.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

Those who remember how Tom Clancy’s magnum opus on WWIII begins will find some eerie parallelisms here...

Drone attacks on Saudi plant could hit global oil supplies
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... bal-supply

Houthi rebels in Yemen are claiming responsibility, but US’s fingers are already pointed towards Iran.

Also... Only ten drones were able to cause such damage? [X(] The face of warfare is really changing.

I don't see a Red Storm Rising war so much as a 'Tanker War' eventuality here. The latter is an oft-forgotten brushfire war when the misbehaving Iranians (caught mining the Gulf) damaged several other tankers and military ships in an effort to stanch the flow of oil through the straits of Hormuz.

Again-similar motive and MO: Attack civilian shipping, deny all accusations or proof of culpability, hit Saudi (or Kuwaiti) economic targets and attempt to cause panic in the international oil market as a 'spoiler'.

The only real difference is the incredible production of US shale oil. As the swing producer-and soon to be largest producer of oil in the world-we can function as a relief valve. The Iranians really don't matter that much in the new oil supply dynamics.

[RFalvo69]

And now we hear rumbles from China, too...

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/busi ... index.html

...Which is pretty obvious if you think about it...

I’m more and more of the idea that this way of making warfare is here to stay. After all, it is a variant of what the US and other countries already do, adapted for entities on a shoestring budget.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

And now we hear rumbles from China, too...

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/busi ... index.html

...Which is pretty obvious if you think about it...

I’m more and more of the idea that this way of making warfare is here to stay. After all, it is a variant of what the US and other countries already do, adapted for entities on a shoestring budget.

Non-kinetic warfare or the melding of cyberwarfare, economic warfare, 'strategic bombing' campaigns to dent / deny production of critical infrastructure, 'debt diplomacy', economic 'sanctions' and the like have been around for a looong time and will be around a long time.

[Lobster]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

And now we hear rumbles from China, too...

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/busi ... index.html

...Which is pretty obvious if you think about it...

I’m more and more of the idea that this way of making warfare is here to stay. After all, it is a variant of what the US and other countries already do, adapted for entities on a shoestring budget.

Non-kinetic warfare or the melding of cyberwarfare, economic warfare, 'strategic bombing' campaigns to dent / deny production of critical infrastructure, 'debt diplomacy', economic 'sanctions' and the like have been around for a looong time and will be around a long time.

I guess you could call a naval blockade an economic sanction. [:D]

[RangerJoe]

Anything Into Oil
Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year.

http://discovermagazine.com/2003/may/featoil

[Lobster]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Anything Into Oil
Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year.

http://discovermagazine.com/2003/may/featoil

"If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water."

If I fell in there would be a lot more gas than anything else. Especially on a Saturday night. [:D]

BTW, things like that process tend to vanish overnight after being bought out by 'big business'.

The whole process sounds so simple you wonder what took so long. Countries that depend on oil for an income may be in trouble.

[RangerJoe]

There are follow up articles that state that there were problems encountered. It could be useful to solve a few problems if it can be worked out.

[Kuokkanen]

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[Kuokkanen]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Anything Into Oil
Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year.

http://discovermagazine.com/2003/may/featoil

"If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water."

Do you know movie Soylent Green? For whatever reason I got some vibes...