1.12.01 units routing out of pocket

[Model1950]

I have enemy units (SHC) routing out of pockets anyone else? This a turn 1 pocket and we are on turn 6.

I think they are on the destroyed unit list but not 100% sure.

Server game.

[morvael]

Please provide more data (screens from map before and after the attack, destroyed unit list view, location of unit routed out of pocket).

[Model1950]

I do have 2 screen shots 172nd rifle routed out of pocket-172 is not on list of destroyed units.

Several other units shattered, but are on the list of destroyed units.

Posting a screen shot, this might take a few days.

[morvael]

Shattered is destroyed.
Let's wait for the 172nd.
But a screenshot from future turn will not help much. It's important to make them on the spot, as you observe something is wrong. Unless it's not a server game and you have access to all previous saves.

[Model1950]

Grandkids are great.

Here is screen shot of battle report.

[Model1950]

Server game vs thedoctorking.

Its only happening once every 10-15 retreats is my guess.

I have several other games that have all seen same thing.

and I am running 1.12.01

Also not just NKVD units.

[morvael]

Ok, maybe offset move is allowed to move out of pocket, must not be allowed in case of out-of-supply unit.

[xhoel]

Why are people using the new patch to play proper server games? Morvael stated himself that that is not advisable for now.

[morvael]

Good reminder, xhoel. Yes, it may lead to disappointment, as I said it requires a bit of fleshing out which without testers I was unable to complete in private.

[xhoel]

Don't get me wrong, I am all for testing the new patch so everything that is off can be fixed but to use it for a multiplayer game seems like asking for disaster to happen. I don't blame you morvael though, you were quite forward about it being a raw version.

Cheers!

[Model1950]

Also have found an issue where units( regiments or divisions ) will not transfer between a Corps HQ in the same army and another where SU's will not be listed to be added to a division when the SU's are in the Corp HQ of the division.

[morvael]

German or Soviet side? I'm pretty sure it works, German Corps are used for the entire game. Please provide more details. Maybe that unit was already moved once?

[Model1950]

ORIGINAL: morvael

Maybe that unit was already moved once?

Guess I need to spend more time going over rules.

Looks to be working as it should.

[thedoctorking]

172nd Rifle is alive and well. Don't know when you routed him.

This is a problem with playing a server game. We should be doing this via pbem so we can send save game files. Moravel, do you remember how to take a game file off the server from before?

[thedoctorking]

BTW, this was the same game where I was asking about Axis units showing -1 supply path even though they weren't isolated or out of range of a rail head. Model, did you have some of your armor up in AGN last turn that got no supplies?

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking
Moravel, do you remember how to take a game file off the server from before?

Too much work as it involves Joel and Matrix. I don't want to use their limited time (and patience). It's best to play PBEM for the purposes of testing this beta.

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

BTW, this was the same game where I was asking about Axis units showing -1 supply path even though they weren't isolated or out of range of a rail head. Model, did you have some of your armor up in AGN last turn that got no supplies?

Badly need examples.

As for the routs out of pockets - it's indeed possible now that I have allowed routs for (supplied) units that were encircled. Only next patch will add distinction between these two. So fix for one broke the other.

[Model1950]

In game vs AtAack 1st Cav had 0 Mp's and 40% fuel for 2 turns- the other 3 divisions had 45-35% fuel and 20-35 MPs.

and I believe there is also an issue with moving units between Corp/SU's.

I could be wrong but I don't think so.

Look forward to PBeM to see what we can do to help morvael.

[morvael]

I would be surprised if fuel would not be low with the new patch if you're at the end of logistics tether.

Awaiting your screenshots and saves.